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Post by kls on Aug 3, 2020 22:52:30 GMT
In all seriousness do they fool most kids? My nephews played hockey and they were often given out to all teams at tournaments. One time the younger one's team came in dead last. Didn't win a game, didn't score a goal in all 4 games and were given one. He called it the "Thanks for showing up trophy."
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Post by Jason143 on Aug 3, 2020 22:53:02 GMT
Should not exist
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Post by kls on Aug 3, 2020 22:54:57 GMT
The older one when given a medal once when his team played poorly said "We only deserve an award for best jerseys."
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Post by Ass_E9 on Aug 3, 2020 23:44:18 GMT
I was happy enough with the post-game soda pop.
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Post by Catman on Aug 3, 2020 23:49:00 GMT
Even the kids in the Special Olympics know that everyone getting participation trophies takes away the whole point of even trying to win.
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Post by Jayman on Aug 4, 2020 0:28:02 GMT
Yeah but these days they have so many leagues that don't keep score and they stopped competitive sports in gym class so nobody's feelings get hurt if they lose. Participation trophies have been around for a long time but I don't think that is the main problem. It is the wussification of kids sports that is the problem. There are articles on this.
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Post by someguy on Aug 4, 2020 5:56:18 GMT
The older one when given a medal once when his team played poorly said "We only deserve an award for best jerseys." Well, at least he has self awareness.
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Post by enigma72 on Aug 4, 2020 16:02:36 GMT
In all seriousness do they fool most kids? My nephews played hockey and they were often given out to all teams at tournaments. One time the younger one's team came in dead last. Didn't win a game, didn't score a goal in all 4 games and were given one. He called it the "Thanks for showing up trophy." My daughter received one for her soccer season in 4th grade. She didn't seem to realize how empty the achievement was. My husband and I were surprised. Your nephew was a little more aware than my daughter. Lol
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Post by kls on Aug 4, 2020 16:55:06 GMT
Oh, fuck. Not this old argument again. WHO CARES? Right now no child is getting a trophy unless they survive a bout of covid. Let’s argue this when we know if and when pee-wee hockey ever returns. Harrumph. I think they stop with this generally before the kids are Pee Wees, lol. They aren't going to fool almost teens. At least I hope not.
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Post by enigma72 on Aug 4, 2020 17:43:48 GMT
Oh, fuck. Not this old argument again. WHO CARES? Right now no child is getting a trophy unless they survive a bout of covid. Let’s argue this when we know if and when pee-wee hockey ever returns. Harrumph. Perhaps you've seen this but I haven't paul. I haven't seen this thread / discussion before. I appreciate it. It is a ready distraction from COVID .
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 4, 2020 18:56:04 GMT
I don't think this is fooling anybody over the age of 5.
This is so annoying to me, but I get it. Make everyone feel good. This is not good imo, it just sounds good. Children need to learn about disappointment and how to overcome that disappointment. Competitive games are an effective way to do this.
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Post by kls on Aug 4, 2020 19:02:35 GMT
What made my nephews more proud than a 'Thanks for showing up' trophy was being given the game puck by the coach if the team voted them to be the team MVP of a game.
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Post by enigma72 on Aug 4, 2020 19:51:26 GMT
What made my nephews more proud than a 'Thanks for showing up' trophy was being given the game puck by the coach if the team voted them to be the team MVP of a game. That is important!
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Post by Sarge on Aug 4, 2020 22:18:11 GMT
None of the schools my kids attended did stuff like that. I'm against it in principle of they really exist but if you parent your kids it's nothing to worry about and if you don't parent your kids then they're already frucked.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 4, 2020 23:31:29 GMT
None of the schools my kids attended did stuff like that. I'm against it in principle of they really exist but if you parent your kids it's nothing to worry about and if you don't parent your kids then they're already frucked. ?.
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Post by kls on Aug 4, 2020 23:43:15 GMT
Sometimes I like what the kids did to acknowledge each other better than any awards or trophies. My younger nephew was playing at a 16 and under tournament to go to Nationals years ago and the game was a 0 0 tie until the last minute when a kid from my nephew's team scored. The other goalie gave the kid who scored the puck he shot into the net when they skated past each other and bumped gloves at the end. Then when the team did some victory laps my nephew who wore number 50 took off his Jersey, carried it like a flag skating behind his teams goalie pointing at the number to acknowledge his 50 saves.
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Post by AcousticBlues77 on Aug 5, 2020 12:39:22 GMT
Participation trophies send terrible messages to kids. They say kids MUST get a reward even if they do poorly and that they've achieved something when they haven't. Playing a sport is enjoyment and reward in itself, but if a child is unhappy about losing he (or she) should be taught by parents and coaches that he needs to work harder if he wants to improve and that there are times when he's going to lose. Personally I'm so tired of seeing people get rewards for mediocrity and failure.
Kobe Bryant hated participation trophies and he taught his daughters an important lesson when they were given trophies for placing fourth in a basketball tournament. The girls knew that the trophies were meaningless and did not want to accept them. But Kobe told them to accept the trophies and then put them in a prominent place in their bedrooms. He said "Look at those trophies every day and tell yourselves that you're never going to get another one like it again."
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Post by Stammerhead on Aug 5, 2020 13:55:57 GMT
At least kids don’t get trophies for not turning up.
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Post by Sarge on Aug 5, 2020 16:48:22 GMT
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Post by dazz on Aug 5, 2020 17:13:28 GMT
I dislike the idea anyone gets one for just turning up, I think a trophy needs to be earned, even in defeat you can do this to send the right message, like ok you lost but you played your guts out that deserves an acknowledgement to reward kids for trying, but like it would be wooden and well fuck it, it would be a replica Ashes trophy to send the right message. The only people who fall for them seem to be imo people who didn't care, anyone who played to win wont be fooled by a participation trophy, people who play because their friends do or their parents forced them are the ones who like it because winning doesn't matter to them and hey look they got a shiny prize, I also think sometimes it's more to appease demented parents who kick off at kids sports because they are mentally unhinged, or desperately trying to live vicariously through their kids, so it's more a here take this and shut up award for mummy or daddy, why they just don't go and buy some cheap trophies off ebay is beyond me though.
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