|
|
Post by janntosh on Aug 16, 2020 23:52:25 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Aug 17, 2020 0:02:42 GMT
First time I have seen the Alien compared to a black woman. The Predator was obviously based on an African warrior look.
Ironically both characters were portrayed by black men.
|
|
|
|
Post by moviemouth on Aug 17, 2020 0:06:33 GMT
First time I have seen the Alien compared to a black woman. The Predator was obviously based on an African warrior look.
Ironically both characters were portrayed by black men. Oh yeah? maybe it was a Viking warrior look. Many believed that energy (presumably life force energy, chi, prana, ki, etc.) exits the body through the top of the head and that having knotted hair prevents or retards the escape of energy making one stronger and even potentially imbuing a person with supernatural mental and physical abilities. In many cultures it was and is common for shamans in particular to wear dreadlocks. Dreadlocks have also symbolized the recognition and demonstration that our physical appearances and vanity are unimportant. Another, similar practice is having a shaved head with no hair at all. Others still believe that dreadlocks are the most natural and healthy style of hair to have as hair will dread if left to its own devices.
|
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Aug 17, 2020 0:14:22 GMT
In the Aliens Vs Predator comic book notes on Predator, the production designer for Predator said they went for a "Masai warrior" look.
The Rastafarian appearance wasn't accidental. people didn't freak out about such cultural appropriation then. Maybe it was encouraged.
In a Starlog article the dreadlocks were theorized to provide cooling for the reptilian alien in hot environments.
|
|
|
|
Post by moviemouth on Aug 17, 2020 0:31:06 GMT
In the Aliens Vs Predator comic book notes on Predator, the production designer for Predator said they went for a "Masai warrior" look.The Rastafarian appearance wasn't accidental. people didn't freak out about such cultural appropriation then. Maybe it was encouraged. In a Starlog article the dreadlocks were theorized to provide cooling for the reptilian alien in hot environments. I can't argue with that then. Dreadlocks is not cultural appropriation btw. The PC people are sometimes laughably ignorant. Vikings were white and war dreadlocks commonly.
|
|
|
|
Post by kolchak92 on Aug 17, 2020 0:45:19 GMT
Is this originally from The Onion? That's what it reads like.
This sort of childish Mickey Mouse idiocy is doing nothing but undermine the real issues.
|
|
|
|
Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 17, 2020 0:45:30 GMT
First time I have seen the Alien compared to a black woman. The Predator was obviously based on an African warrior look. Ironically both characters were portrayed by black men. "Ironically both characters were portrayed by black men." Yup and the guy in the Xenomorph costume looked way better than the CGI sequels:  The 2nd one used a giant puppet for the Queen alien and still looks way better than the later movies. The 3rd didn't use CGI perse, but it did use a weird puppet against a green screen effect that looks a bit hokey. Alien Ressurection was the first one with CGI aliens and it has aged like milk.
|
|
avocadojoe
Sophomore
@avocadojoe
Posts: 367
Likes: 159
|
Post by avocadojoe on Aug 17, 2020 16:09:37 GMT
Well, the shark from the Jaws movies was white and it killed a bunch of people (none of whom were black, as I recall), so that should count for something. And orcas are friendly and intelligent and they're black. It all comes out in the wash. |
|
|
|
Post by dwightmachinehead on Aug 17, 2020 16:17:49 GMT
"As seen in ‘Alien vs. Predator,’ Hollywood alien movies can be read as depicting Black people as monsters to be feared"
Dreadful journalism. They can also be read as just Hollywood alien movies.
|
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Aug 17, 2020 19:38:31 GMT
I didn’t expect this article to make much sense, and I wasn’t surprised. There are most likely plenty of racial tones in various films to be talked about instead of reaching here to try and sync up black womenswear with an alien queen and black men with the predator. It’s a real big stretch.
|
|
|
|
Post by Winter_King on Aug 18, 2020 12:44:05 GMT
Well, the shark from the Jaws movies was white and it killed a bunch of people (none of whom were black, as I recall), so that should count for something. And orcas are friendly and intelligent and they're black. It all comes out in the wash. 
|
|
avocadojoe
Sophomore
@avocadojoe
Posts: 367
Likes: 159
|
Post by avocadojoe on Aug 18, 2020 17:13:44 GMT
Well, the shark from the Jaws movies was white and it killed a bunch of people (none of whom were black, as I recall), so that should count for something. And orcas are friendly and intelligent and they're black. It all comes out in the wash. The white one is mean and ugly, whereas the black one is friendly and cute. Nature is racist! |
|
|
|
Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 18, 2020 17:21:24 GMT
Kinda makes me wonder if the original received some backlash for perceived racial undertones (dread locks, hunts people in the jungle, squares off against a white guy) and they purposely went with a black guy (Danny Glover) for the sequel to try and ward off some of the controversy.
|
|
|
|
Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 18, 2020 17:30:19 GMT
Here's what Ebert said about the sequel, from wikipedia:
"He also felt that the creatures' design had racist undertones where "subliminal clues [...] encourage us to subconsciously connect the menace with black males."
|
|
mcclance
Sophomore
@mcclance
Posts: 262
Likes: 98
|
Post by mcclance on Aug 19, 2020 21:43:56 GMT
The white one is mean and ugly, whereas the black one is friendly and cute.Nature is racist! Unless you happen to be a penguin or a seal, anyway.
|
|
|
|
Post by darkreviewer2013 on Aug 20, 2020 4:34:08 GMT
Movies can be interpreted in any number of ways. That said, the contention that two classic science fiction horror movies depicting killer aliens promote anti-black racism is far-fetched in the extreme.
|
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Sept 2, 2020 14:27:04 GMT
Youtube channel Collative Learning responded to this today. He's a very cool channel to watch if you enjoy in depth coverage of films, particularly horror and sci fi.
|
|
