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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 20, 2020 16:37:10 GMT
I didn't think they would put Mulan on Disney+ instead of holding it. It will be 29.99 charge on top of the 6.99 for Disney+ released on Sept 4th. You will get to keep viewing it as long as your Disney+ account stays active after you pay the 29.99. If they are willing to put a 200million dollar movie there I have to believe that Black Widow is being considered.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 20, 2020 16:41:39 GMT
Won't happen.
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 20, 2020 16:44:19 GMT
I never thought they would put Mulan on Disney+ instead of releasing it. I know they will have to have some movies that will be a pretty solid win when people start going back to theaters and I thought Mulan and Black Widow would be the 2 they would hold off on, but Mulan is the first to go. I guess it's all contingent on how long lockdowns stay in effect and how hesitant people will be to come back.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 20, 2020 16:58:12 GMT
I guess it depends on how bad it gets by November.
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 20, 2020 17:08:51 GMT
I guess it depends on how bad it gets by November. I personally don't see it getting better this year. Can you imagine the hell all this will be when Flu Season kicks off and Covid 19 is still out there? 1 2 punch is going to be horrible. I've had 2 types of Influenza at one time and it wasn't fun. I couldn't imagine having Covid and Influenza at the same time. I suppose they will have to list deaths from Flu and Covid simultaneously like how they put Covid and Pneumonia on the death certificate.
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Post by blockbusted on Aug 20, 2020 17:16:07 GMT
I never thought they would put Mulan on Disney+ instead of releasing it. I know they will have to have some movies that will be a pretty solid win when people start going back to theaters and I thought Mulan and Black Widow would be the 2 they would hold off on, but Mulan is the first to go. I guess it's all contingent on how long lockdowns stay in effect and how hesitant people will be to come back. I have a feeling that Disney gave up on 'Mulan' because the film had way too many detrimental factors keep on piling up. I mean, the last time I've heard, there's this anti-U.S. stance growing in China right now.
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 20, 2020 17:40:45 GMT
I never thought they would put Mulan on Disney+ instead of releasing it. I know they will have to have some movies that will be a pretty solid win when people start going back to theaters and I thought Mulan and Black Widow would be the 2 they would hold off on, but Mulan is the first to go. I guess it's all contingent on how long lockdowns stay in effect and how hesitant people will be to come back. I have a feeling that Disney gave up on 'Mulan' because the film had way too many detrimental factors keep on piling up. I mean, the last time I've heard, there's this anti-U.S. stance growing in China right now. Also I've seen some disgruntled Americans that it won't have songs. Plus Live Action remakes are pretty hit or miss movie-wise although they tend to do well financially. Now that I think about it and I'm over the shock of finding out that it's going to Disney+ of the 2 Mulan does make more sense.
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Post by blockbusted on Aug 20, 2020 17:48:01 GMT
I have a feeling that Disney gave up on 'Mulan' because the film had way too many detrimental factors keep on piling up. I mean, the last time I've heard, there's this anti-U.S. stance growing in China right now. Also I've seen some disgruntled Americans that it won't have songs. Plus Live Action remakes are pretty hit or miss movie-wise although they tend to do well financially. Now that I think about it and I'm over the shock of finding out that it's going to Disney+ of the 2 Mulan does make more sense.Β I suspected that if there's ONE tentpole film that might skip cinema release, it would be 'Mulan' since it's practically a one-off film.
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 20, 2020 17:56:09 GMT
Also I've seen some disgruntled Americans that it won't have songs. Plus Live Action remakes are pretty hit or miss movie-wise although they tend to do well financially. Now that I think about it and I'm over the shock of finding out that it's going to Disney+ of the 2 Mulan does make more sense. I suspected that if there's ONE tentpole film that might skip cinema release, it would be 'Mulan' since it's practically a one-off film. I don't think I'm going to pay the extra 29.99 on September 4th to see Mulan on Disney+. I don't think I've seen the original cartoon all the way through.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 20, 2020 17:59:47 GMT
It'd have to be a last resort. Like should the COVID get worse.
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 20, 2020 18:04:15 GMT
It'd have to be a last resort. Like should the COVID get worse. Upon reflection I think they'll at the very least will delay it again. I just don't see Theaters getting up and running with movie goers being confident enough to go out in November. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 20, 2020 21:20:59 GMT
It all depends. Not just on Covid, but on how successful Disney+ is at the moment. Also, Disney isn't going to delay a movie they spent a quadrillion dollars on forever. If they can't get it to theaters in a timely manner they will release it on Disney+ eventually.
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Post by darkpast on Aug 24, 2020 3:05:27 GMT
I might be D+ in the US, but in theaters everywhere else
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 24, 2020 4:27:12 GMT
Mulan will be the test subject and if it does well, Black Widow will probably be next... depending on how long lockdown lasts. Pretty sure Disney and the MCU would prefer to release it to theaters at full capacity but let's not kid ourselves. Disney will not wait forever. Better to make lesser money by releasing it in D+ then to just shelve the movie and never make money off of it. They can always re-release it afterwards.
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Post by blockbusted on Aug 24, 2020 21:12:33 GMT
Mulan will be the test subject and if it does well, Black Widow will probably be next... depending on how long lockdown lasts. Pretty sure Disney and the MCU would prefer to release it to theaters at full capacity but let's not kid ourselves. Disney will not wait forever. Better to make lesser money by releasing it in D+ then to just shelve the movie and never make money off of it. They can always re-release it afterwards. I don't think it works that way. Also, why use this method? Why not just release it in cinemas and move it to Disney+ earlier if it flounders at the box office?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 24, 2020 22:45:22 GMT
My guess is that if Mulan does well, and that's a big IF, they may do it with Black Widow, especially if things aren't better in the states come November.
Plus it would be released near the big holidays, so that could increase the revenue on +
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 25, 2020 2:25:12 GMT
Mulan will be the test subject and if it does well, Black Widow will probably be next... depending on how long lockdown lasts. Pretty sure Disney and the MCU would prefer to release it to theaters at full capacity but let's not kid ourselves. Disney will not wait forever. Better to make lesser money by releasing it in D+ then to just shelve the movie and never make money off of it. They can always re-release it afterwards. I don't think it works that way. Also, why use this method? Why not just release it in cinemas and move it to Disney+ earlier if it flounders at the box office? Because you don't know when theaters are coming back out fully worldwide. A few states in the US might be opening theaters again, that doesn't mean the rest of the world are doing the same. And even if they do, there's no guarantee that all people are willing to go back out and intermingle fully. I'm pretty sure MCU/Disney is willing to wait, as they've already proven to do, but there will be a limit to how long they will wait. Besides, there have been movies out there which have been re-released to boost their sales. Don't see why they can't do it with this one.
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Post by blockbusted on Aug 25, 2020 2:39:11 GMT
I don't think it works that way. Also, why use this method? Why not just release it in cinemas and move it to Disney+ earlier if it flounders at the box office? Because you don't know when theaters are coming back out fully worldwide. A few states in the US might be opening theaters again, that doesn't mean the rest of the world are doing the same. And even if they do, there's no guarantee that all people are willing to go back out and intermingle fully. I'm pretty sure MCU/Disney is willing to wait, as they've already proven to do, but there will be a limit to how long they will wait. Besides, there have been movies out there which have been re-released to boost their sales. Don't see why they can't do it with this one. Most of the worlds have their cinemas open to some extent, and this is also the case in the U.S., albeit to a lesser extent. In fact, films like Tenet and The New Mutants are first being released in cinemas that are open. Also, films that got re-released in cinemas already had a history of cinema release before. Straight-to-streaming films have NEVER received a proper release in cinemas later. And before you say it's first time for everything, almost all major cinema chains would reject the film if it goes straight to Disney+. Finally, films like Peninsula still managed to become a decent success in Asia including in my country (keep in mind, this was before that far-right church dragged my country back into an outbreak sh!thole all over again), so the cinema release could actually work.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 26, 2020 1:10:46 GMT
Because you don't know when theaters are coming back out fully worldwide. A few states in the US might be opening theaters again, that doesn't mean the rest of the world are doing the same. And even if they do, there's no guarantee that all people are willing to go back out and intermingle fully. I'm pretty sure MCU/Disney is willing to wait, as they've already proven to do, but there will be a limit to how long they will wait. Besides, there have been movies out there which have been re-released to boost their sales. Don't see why they can't do it with this one. Most of the worlds have their cinemas open to some extent, and this is also the case in the U.S., albeit to a lesser extent. In fact, films like Tenet and The New Mutants are first being released in cinemas that are open. Also, films that got re-released in cinemas already had a history of cinema release before. Straight-to-streaming films have NEVER received a proper release in cinemas later. And before you say it's first time for everything, almost all major cinema chains would reject the film if it goes straight to Disney+. Finally, films like Peninsula still managed to become a decent success in Asia including in my country (keep in mind, this was before that far-right church dragged my country back into an outbreak sh!thole all over again), so the cinema release could actually work. "Most of the worlds have their cinemas open to some extent" is not the same thing as having all cinemas fully open. And Black Widow is too big a movie for Disney to risk it against a partially open movie release where a good chunk of the movie-going population would hesitate to go out and watch movies. A good chunk of movie houses have opened up again in my city and they're basically ghost towns. Very few people are actually willing to go to an enclosed public space like that with multiple people. That's not even including all the countries with stricter lockdowns and movie houses still closed.
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Post by blockbusted on Aug 26, 2020 3:20:16 GMT
Most of the worlds have their cinemas open to some extent, and this is also the case in the U.S., albeit to a lesser extent. In fact, films like Tenet and The New Mutants are first being released in cinemas that are open. Also, films that got re-released in cinemas already had a history of cinema release before. Straight-to-streaming films have NEVER received a proper release in cinemas later. And before you say it's first time for everything, almost all major cinema chains would reject the film if it goes straight to Disney+. Finally, films like Peninsula still managed to become a decent success in Asia including in my country (keep in mind, this was before that far-right church dragged my country back into an outbreak sh!thole all over again), so the cinema release could actually work. "Most of the worlds have their cinemas open to some extent" is not the same thing as having all cinemas fully open. And Black Widow is too big a movie for Disney to risk it against a partially open movie release where a good chunk of the movie-going population would hesitate to go out and watch movies. That's not even including all the countries with stricter lockdowns and movie houses still closed. Well, here are some of the things to consider: 1. Black Widow might have the budget around $150 million, which is certainly big, but not necessarily huge, especially when compared to films like Tenet. 2. Sending a film that belongs in a major film series straight to streaming service poses a lot more risk than doing the same with a standalone film like Mulan. 3. According to some, this film might set up Florence Pugh's character as the next Black Widow-ish character, and that plan is almost guaranteed to go down the toilet if Black Widow goes straight to Disney+, and it should also be pointed out that a film that goes straight to a streaming service almost never gets another form of home media release (in fact, that's one reason why I dislike streaming services). 4. Black Widow doesn't have several detrimental factors piling up within a short period of time, which is pretty much what happened to Mulan with the report of anti-U.S. stance growing in China. 5. If Black Widow goes straight to Disney+, people might expect/wish other MCU films to do the same, which could end up destroying the film division of MCU in a long run. Keep in mind, the decision to send Mulan straight to Disney+ was probably a last straw in the first place, and even if it works with Mulan, it doesn't necessarily guarantee that it will work with Black Widow. And there's also the fact that it was pretty much announced that the film will have 30 minutes of IMAX aspect ratio sequences, something that Mulan was never going to have.
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