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Post by ThatGuy on May 12, 2017 19:37:15 GMT
Well, they did follow the history of the comics a bit. He did study under Frank Ducard and left him because his methods were too extreme (even though they mixed him with Ra's). He would have never became Batman without what he learned from his time overseas. I think he would. Let's not forget the original stories had him decide to dress up as a Bat due to one flying through his window. So without Ducard he'd still have found a way. As opposed to Begins, where he gets EVERY idea from Ra's. Actually, in Batman Begins he got the idea to dress up like a bat because one was flying around his house. He wouldn't have before then. He also had the idea to go back to Gotham and save it. Ducard was talking about destroying it. I think the only part he got from Ducard was theatricality and that was from ninja training.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 12, 2017 20:34:44 GMT
I think he would. Let's not forget the original stories had him decide to dress up as a Bat due to one flying through his window. So without Ducard he'd still have found a way. As opposed to Begins, where he gets EVERY idea from Ra's.jeez, a lot of alternative facts and misinformation again. You know I'm not a big fan of superhero movies, but you would be surprised how much it helps to actually watch them, before randomly claiming stuff. Let me help you: In Begins we see: As a child, Bruce Wayne falls down into a dry well and is attacked by a swarm of bats, subsequently developing a phobia (that means anxiety) of the bat creatures; his dad helps him understand the experience (why do we fall?). Later, while watching an opera with his parents, Thomas and Martha, Bruce becomes frightened by performers masquerading as bats and asks to leave - leading to his parents' brutal murder. Great guilt, angst and fear ensue. Later in life Bruce confronts Falcone the man behind the murder, who tells him that real power comes from being feared.Bruce decides to travel the world and learn how to confront injustice and fear. After completing his training and purging his fears he rejects his mentors, and Bruce returns to Gotham intent on fighting crime HIS way (against his mentors in the league of shadows). Inspired by his childhood fear, he takes up the vigilante identity of "the Batman" to scare his enemies. Welcome! He never would've learned the right disciplines or gotten proper training or the idea of dressing up if not for Ra's. Ra's influenced everything. Without him, Bruce would be as ineffectual as he was when he was getting into fights in Chinese Prisons.
No Ra's = Bruce never really becomes Batman. He has some ideas, but would never learn how to execute them.
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