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Post by moviemouth on Sept 1, 2020 2:12:01 GMT
Just got back from seeing the movie. I agree that it is one of Nolan's lesser movies in almost every way, but still very good. The movie Kept me interested at nearly every moment and very cool. Reminds me of a 1960's spy movie with time travel and existentialism thrown in. Loved the movie reference in the final moment of the movie as well. Kenneth Branagh is one of the scariest movies villains in a long time. FYI - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sator_Square8/10
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 1, 2020 2:19:46 GMT
I managed to watch the movie. I thought the bad sound was just due to the method I used to watch it, which allegedly may have been through finding an alleged cam version (or so it's been alleged), but it seems like even people who saw it in theaters are complaining about the sound. Yes, the sound mixing is a problem again. I could understand most of the dialogue well enough though and that aspect didn't bring the movie down any for me.
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Post by hi224 on Sept 1, 2020 2:27:31 GMT
Just got back from seeing the movie. I agree that it is one of Nolan's lesser movies in almost every way, but still very good. The movie Kept me interested at nearly every moment and very cool. Reminds me of a 1960's spy movie with time travel and existentialism thrown in. Loved the movie reference in the final moment of the movie as well. Kenneth Branagh is one of the scariest movies villains in a long time. 8/10 nice to hear Branagh brings it, been awhile since hes done some solid work.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 1, 2020 2:30:12 GMT
Just got back from seeing the movie. I agree that it is one of Nolan's lesser movies in almost every way, but still very good. The movie Kept me interested at nearly every moment and very cool. Reminds me of a 1960's spy movie with time travel and existentialism thrown in. Loved the movie reference in the final moment of the movie as well. Kenneth Branagh is one of the scariest movies villains in a long time. 8/10 nice to hear Branagh brings it, been awhile since hes done some solid work. Largely due to the writing, but his acting makes it fully come together. Definitely James Bond inspired.
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Post by theravenking on Sept 1, 2020 19:06:29 GMT
4/10 I walked out of it. It was already near the end when Priya was going to assassinate Claire. I have no idea what happened afterwards and whether the ending could've actually saved the movie, but once they started going back in time the movie lost me. They kept showing the same scenes again from a different perspective when even the first time around the action scenes weren't that great (at least not in my opinion). The climactic battle in the Siberian town felt really confusing, I struggled to make sense of what those two teams were doing. And then came the point when JD Washington's character started his "Everybody was working for me, I engineered the entire thing" speech when I thought enough is enough. I thought the concept was actually pretty interesting, the whole idea of humans from the future being the enemy having developed a method to invert time, so they could change the future world by destroying the past. But perhaps Nolan should've hired a screenwriter who knew how to create life-like characters and invest the proceedings with some genuine emotion and humanity. I didn't like the cinematography and the action scenes either. The movie looked bland and soulless and the action while perhaps originally interesting on paper just failed to pull me in. It reminded me a bit of the Matrix sequels where they had these elaborate and expensive action sequences which were still incredibly dull.
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Post by Jason143 on Sept 1, 2020 21:24:03 GMT
4/10 I walked out of it. It was already near the end when Priya was going to assassinate Claire. I have no idea what happened afterwards and whether the ending could've actually saved the movie, but once they started going back in time the movie lost me. They kept showing the same scenes again from a different perspective when even the first time around the action scenes weren't that great (at least not in my opinion). The climactic battle in the Siberian town felt really confusing, I struggled to make sense of what those two teams were doing. And then came the point when JD Washington's character started his "Everybody was working for me, I engineered the entire thing" speech when I thought enough is enough. I thought the concept was actually pretty interesting, the whole idea of humans from the future being the enemy having developed a method to invert time, so they could change the future world by destroying the past. But perhaps Nolan should've hired a screenwriter who knew how to create life-like characters and invest the proceedings with some genuine emotion and humanity. I didn't like the cinematography and the action scenes either. The movie looked bland and soulless and the action while perhaps originally interesting on paper just failed to pull me in. It reminded me a bit of the Matrix sequels where they had these elaborate and expensive action sequences which were still incredibly dull. This is my experience. I had no idea what the plan was at the end. Who were they shooting at? Why was there 2 colour codee teams? What were they trying to capture? First time in a Nolan movie I had no understanding of the final climax.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 2, 2020 0:35:21 GMT
4/10 I walked out of it. It was already near the end when Priya was going to assassinate Claire. I have no idea what happened afterwards and whether the ending could've actually saved the movie, but once they started going back in time the movie lost me. They kept showing the same scenes again from a different perspective when even the first time around the action scenes weren't that great (at least not in my opinion). The climactic battle in the Siberian town felt really confusing, I struggled to make sense of what those two teams were doing. And then came the point when JD Washington's character started his "Everybody was working for me, I engineered the entire thing" speech when I thought enough is enough. I thought the concept was actually pretty interesting, the whole idea of humans from the future being the enemy having developed a method to invert time, so they could change the future world by destroying the past. But perhaps Nolan should've hired a screenwriter who knew how to create life-like characters and invest the proceedings with some genuine emotion and humanity. I didn't like the cinematography and the action scenes either. The movie looked bland and soulless and the action while perhaps originally interesting on paper just failed to pull me in. It reminded me a bit of the Matrix sequels where they had these elaborate and expensive action sequences which were still incredibly dull. This is my experience. I had no idea what the plan was at the end. Who were they shooting at? Why was there 2 colour codee teams? What were they trying to capture? First time in a Nolan movie I had no understanding of the final climax. Having watched it twice now: Red team was moving forward through time and blue team was moving backward. They were trying to get the Algorithm (i.e. the time-reversing machine) before the bad guys could blow the roof of the "hyper center", thereby trapping the Algorithm down there for the future bad guys to find.
It is a little weird that we don't really see who their shooting at, but we can assume there are enemy soldiers there.
I'm still a bit confused about what Sator's dead man switch activates. In the movie, they say it will activate the Algorithm, but it looks to me like it just activates the bomb that blows the roof of the hyper center. I've seen fan explanations claiming that somewhere in the movie they say the dead man switch sends out GPS coordinates to the Algorithm so the future bad guys know where to find it. Honestly, I find faults with all three of these scenarios. Edited for typos.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 2, 2020 1:02:43 GMT
4/10 I walked out of it. It was already near the end when Priya was going to assassinate Claire. I have no idea what happened afterwards and whether the ending could've actually saved the movie, but once they started going back in time the movie lost me. They kept showing the same scenes again from a different perspective when even the first time around the action scenes weren't that great (at least not in my opinion). The climactic battle in the Siberian town felt really confusing, I struggled to make sense of what those two teams were doing. And then came the point when JD Washington's character started his "Everybody was working for me, I engineered the entire thing" speech when I thought enough is enough. I thought the concept was actually pretty interesting, the whole idea of humans from the future being the enemy having developed a method to invert time, so they could change the future world by destroying the past. But perhaps Nolan should've hired a screenwriter who knew how to create life-like characters and invest the proceedings with some genuine emotion and humanity. I didn't like the cinematography and the action scenes either. The movie looked bland and soulless and the action while perhaps originally interesting on paper just failed to pull me in. It reminded me a bit of the Matrix sequels where they had these elaborate and expensive action sequences which were still incredibly dull. That scene was the last one in the movie. The Protagonist kills Priya and her companion after telling her that he realized that they'd both been working for him (i.e. the Protagonist the whole time.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 2, 2020 2:02:03 GMT
This is my experience. I had no idea what the plan was at the end. Who were they shooting at? Why was there 2 colour codee teams? What were they trying to capture? First time in a Nolan movie I had no understanding of the final climax. Having watched it twice now: Red team was moving forward through time and blue team was moving backward. They were trying to get the Algorithm (i.e. the time-reversing machine) before the bad guys could blow the roof of the "hyper center", thereby trapping the Algorithm down there for the future bad guys to find.
It is a little weird that we don't really see who their shooting at, but we can assume there are enemy soldiers there.
I'm still a bit confused about what Astor's dead man switch activates. In the movie z they say it will activate the Algorithm, but it looks to me like it just activates the bomb that blows the roof of the hyper center. I've seen fan explanations claiming that somewhere in the movie they say the dead man switch sends out GPS coordinates to the Algorithm so the future bad guys know where to find it. Honestly, I find faults with all three of these scenarios. I am convinced that the movie purposely doesn't make sense because of this line "don't try to understand it, feel it." I also think Nolan knows his fanbase well enough to know that they overestimated him and therefor think there is a way to make sense of it, so they will do backflips to try and make sense of it. The Sator square is a deeply religious artifact and I believe he is in part making a comparison to belief in the Bible, God and life itself. Now I am probably doing the same thing.
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Post by Vits on Sept 2, 2020 10:21:54 GMT
I don't want to encourage anyone to risk their lives. The only reason why I saw TENET is because the cinema I went to had the proper safety measures and because I live in Rome, where the COVID-19 cases aren't as high as other places (at least for now). If your situation is similar to mine, that's a whole other conversation. Now, the plot revolves around a secret mission. So secret that, a couple of times, the agents and the employers discuss it in public, including a ferry where they're surrounded by people. Wait, what? Like most of Christopher Nolan's works, we have a complicated plot involving a lot of real science and philosophy in our hands. Unfortunately, there's something missing that was present in his previous projects: Strong emotions that drive the main characters through their journey (a husband trying to kill his wife's murderer, a father who misses his son and daughter, a father who misses his daughter and I guess his son too, etc...). Here, we learn nothing about our hero. And don't tell me that's the point, like in DUNKIRK. That was because the soldiers served as vessels for the viewers to insert ourselves into, in order to feel what it's like to be in a war zone. Not to mention that 2017 hit was designed to be a complete visual and auditory experience. This one balances the images and the audio the same way most movies do, and the protagonist is presented as a real person. Without knowing what motivates him on a personal level (instead of just wanting to save the world), I couldn't connect with him and, by extension, with the movie. Also, he and a lot of the other characters are similar in terms of personality, whether they're displaying their inner strength, their intelligence or their sense of humor, so they don't stand out, unlike INCEPTION with its group of distinct individuals. Speaking of that 2010 classic, it didn't matter that the events were written as a traditional heist film, because they took place inside people's dreams. All kinds of unpredictable and imaginative things happened in each environment. Here, a special element is introduced early on, but it's not used to the fullest until the 2nd half. The 1st half is a traditional spy film (and not a very interesting one) that occasionally turns into science fiction. It would be easy to dismiss Jennifer Lame's editing as choppy. I mean, I can't remember a shot lasting more than 5 or even 2 seconds (to be fair, I wasn't actually timing them). There are even moments where a character is doing something and in the very next shot they're doing something else in another part of the room, indicating that at least a couple of seconds have passed. However, that and the near total lack of establishing shots makes me think that her hands were tied and she was just doing her best to reduce the running time down to 150 minutes. Honestly, I would've preferred it if she had deleted full scenes. Trust me: Not all of them were indispensable. No other aspect about this production is bad at all, but without something to get invested in, what's the point? 5/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog.It is a little weird that we don't really see who their shooting at, but we can assume there are enemy soldiers there. That's correct. When Ives is explaining everyone the plan, he tells them that there will be "antagonists" there.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Sept 6, 2020 18:26:15 GMT
I loved it. And after seeing the trailer for No Time to Die before my showing, Iโm pretty positive Tenet will be the best 007 movie released this year.
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Post by darkpast on Nov 27, 2020 6:11:49 GMT
it was disappointing , but still better than other mainstream movie
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 4, 2020 15:44:29 GMT
Finally saw it. I had a bit trouble following who is who during the action scenes, particularly in the final battle where everyone is wearing some sort of SWAT suit. Overall good movie but I'll probably need to re watch it to catch some details that will probably improve the experience.
As I watch it at home with subtitles, I had no problem understanding the dialogue.
I put it above TDKR, Insterstellar and Insomnia.
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 4, 2020 15:44:58 GMT
Just got back from seeing the movie. I agree that it is one of Nolan's lesser movies in almost every way, but still very good. The movie Kept me interested at nearly every moment and very cool. Reminds me of a 1960's spy movie with time travel and existentialism thrown in. Loved the movie reference in the final moment of the movie as well. Kenneth Branagh is one of the scariest movies villains in a long time.FYI - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sator_Square8/10 I was very impressed with him too.
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