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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 30, 2020 22:54:07 GMT
I thought it was just okay. The liberal sensibilities were clear and I've never found movies with a cause to be all that entertaining. The aspect of a man redeeming himself was slightly more compelling. And Marlon Brando gave his usual sensitive performance, but I thought he was much better three years earlier in "A Streetcar Named Desire". Eva Marie Saint was barely adequate. I found her to be completely drab. Don't know how she won the Oscar.
The best parts were the two kissing scenes between Brando and Saint. Marlon was extremely sensual and affecting here.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 30, 2020 22:55:24 GMT
I enjoyed it quite a bit. 8/10.
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Post by movielover on Aug 30, 2020 22:57:32 GMT
8/10
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Post by petrolino on Aug 30, 2020 23:03:59 GMT
I find this movie fascinating, made moreso by real-life events involving director Elia Kazan and writer Budd Schulberg. Couldn't disagree more about Eva Marie Saint, photographed here by Boris Kaufman. I view it more as a morality play than through any kind of liberal or conservative lens. Nice title bar scoring by you (-- ** 3/4).
I like 'A Streetcar Named Desire' too but there's hardly any Kazan movie I don't like.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 30, 2020 23:14:59 GMT
I find this movie fascinating, made moreso by events involving director Elia Kazan and writer Budd Schulberg. Couldn't disagree more about Eva Marie Saint, photographed here by Boris Kaufman. I view it more as a morality play than through any kind of liberal or conservative lens. Nice title bar scoring by you (-- ** 3/4).
I like 'A Streetcar Named Desire' too but there's hardly any Kazan movie I don't like.
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I love "A Streetcar Named Desire". It has my favorite performance of Brando's. But has stunning as he is here, Vivien Leigh impresses me even more. She trembles with pathos. I liked it when Pauline Kael said that Leigh gave a rare performance that evoked pity and terror. So true. As Leigh portrayed her, Blanche Dubois' level of delusion is terrifying. What a fascinating character Tennessee Williams created here.
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Post by petrolino on Aug 30, 2020 23:21:36 GMT
I find this movie fascinating, made moreso by events involving director Elia Kazan and writer Budd Schulberg. Couldn't disagree more about Eva Marie Saint, photographed here by Boris Kaufman. I view it more as a morality play than through any kind of liberal or conservative lens. Nice title bar scoring by you (-- ** 3/4).
I like 'A Streetcar Named Desire' too but there's hardly any Kazan movie I don't like.
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I love "A Streetcar Named Desire". It has my favorite performance of Brando's. But has stunning as he is here, Vivien Leigh impresses me even more. She trembles with pathos. I liked it when Pauline Kael said that Leigh gave a rare performance that evoked pity and terror. So true. As Leigh portrayed her, Blanche Dubois' level of delusion is terrifying. What a fascinating character Tennessee Williams created here.
I think Elia Kazan tended to get strong performances from all his performers. Nothing leaps out to me from his filmography where I think otherwise. Marlon Brando's performance in 'On The Waterfront' had a profound effect on a generation of actors who made their names in the 1970s. His muscular workout in 'Streetcar' took the dangerous 'Wild One' pin-up and turned him into the ultimate global sex symbol. Truman Capote's writings on Brando capture the strapping hunk in his heydey.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 30, 2020 23:38:47 GMT
I love "A Streetcar Named Desire". It has my favorite performance of Brando's. But has stunning as he is here, Vivien Leigh impresses me even more. She trembles with pathos. I liked it when Pauline Kael said that Leigh gave a rare performance that evoked pity and terror. So true. As Leigh portrayed her, Blanche Dubois' level of delusion is terrifying. What a fascinating character Tennessee Williams created here.
I think Elia Kazan tended to get strong performances from all his performers. Nothing leaps out to me from his filmography where I think otherwise. Marlon Brando's performance in 'On The Waterfront' had a profound effect on a generation of actors who made their names in the 1970s. His muscular workout in 'Streetcar' took the dangerous 'Wild One' pin-up and turned him into the ultimate global sex symbol. Truman Capote's writings on Brando capture the strapping hunk in his heydey.
Marlon Brando was a gorgeous man, that's for sure. And it wasn't just his beautiful face and his muscles -- Brando's charisma was out of this world. I think everybody who met him fell a little bit in love, or at least in lust. All the way up to "Last Tango in Paris" he looked good -- I haven't seen that one in yonks. No doubt Truman enjoyed the attention Marlon was giving him. Okay, so I am watching "Porky's" right now. (It's funny!) Scott Wilson just showed up as an abusive father and he starred in "In Cold Blood", which, of course, was written by Truman Capote. I like full circle scenarios like this.
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Post by moonchild on Aug 31, 2020 0:25:14 GMT
I love "A Streetcar Named Desire". It has my favorite performance of Brando's. But has stunning as he is here, Vivien Leigh impresses me even more. She trembles with pathos. I liked it when Pauline Kael said that Leigh gave a rare performance that evoked pity and terror. So true. As Leigh portrayed her, Blanche Dubois' level of delusion is terrifying. What a fascinating character Tennessee Williams created here.
I think Elia Kazan tended to get strong performances from all his performers. Nothing leaps out to me from his filmography where I think otherwise. Marlon Brando's performance in 'On The Waterfront' had a profound effect on a generation of actors who made their names in the 1970s. His muscular workout in 'Streetcar' took the dangerous 'Wild One' pin-up and turned him into the ultimate global sex symbol. Truman Capote's writings on Brando capture the strapping hunk in his heydey.
Were you surprised that Wally Cox and Brando were friends? Wally is just so low key
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Post by petrolino on Aug 31, 2020 0:32:55 GMT
I think Elia Kazan tended to get strong performances from all his performers. Nothing leaps out to me from his filmography where I think otherwise. Marlon Brando's performance in 'On The Waterfront' had a profound effect on a generation of actors who made their names in the 1970s. His muscular workout in 'Streetcar' took the dangerous 'Wild One' pin-up and turned him into the ultimate global sex symbol. Truman Capote's writings on Brando capture the strapping hunk in his heydey.
Were you surprised that Wally Cox and Brando were friends? Wally is just so low key
He actually talks about going to school with Marlon Brando in this clip with Andy Williams on youtube.
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Post by moonchild on Aug 31, 2020 0:53:33 GMT
Were you surprised that Wally Cox and Brando were friends? Wally is just so low key
He actually talks about going to school with Marlon Brando in this clip with Andy Williams on youtube.
You're right! I remember
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Post by rudeboy on Aug 31, 2020 2:45:42 GMT
It’s a powerful movie with several superb performances, especially by Brando and Saint. I don’t revere it like so many, however. I found Karl Malden completely tedious in this, for one.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 31, 2020 7:15:13 GMT
I think Elia Kazan tended to get strong performances from all his performers. Nothing leaps out to me from his filmography where I think otherwise. Marlon Brando's performance in 'On The Waterfront' had a profound effect on a generation of actors who made their names in the 1970s. His muscular workout in 'Streetcar' took the dangerous 'Wild One' pin-up and turned him into the ultimate global sex symbol. Truman Capote's writings on Brando capture the strapping hunk in his heydey.
Were you surprised that Wally Cox and Brando were friends? Wally is just so low key I was surprised when I first heard that. What's even weirder is how you sometimes read about how famous celebrities all knew each other back in the day, before they became famous. Like, for example, in the 50s, Cloris Leachman, Charlotte Rae and Paul Lynde were all friends. I think that's really neat, but it's also just really surprising to come across stuff like that.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 31, 2020 7:27:14 GMT
I find this movie fascinating, made moreso by real-life events involving director Elia Kazan and writer Budd Schulberg. Couldn't disagree more about Eva Marie Saint, photographed here by Boris Kaufman. I view it more as a morality play than through any kind of liberal or conservative lens. Nice title bar scoring by you (-- ** 3/4).
I like 'A Streetcar Named Desire' too but there's hardly any Kazan movie I don't like.
Thanks. Giving a movie the extra quarter star or a three quarters star allows for more precision. And it makes giving out star ratings more fun, so why not?
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Post by Vits on Aug 31, 2020 9:48:02 GMT
9/10
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Post by phantomparticle on Aug 31, 2020 11:25:39 GMT
The story is as compelling today as it was in the early 1950's and the documentary style photography and New Jersey locations are a time capsule of the era when everything was controlled by The Mob and corrupt unions.
I never thought Saint was that beautiful, even at her most glamorous in North by Northwest, but she was acceptably credible here in her film debut.
Brando gives what I consider to be the greatest male performance of the decade. The famous scene between him and Rod Steiger, a mine field of complexity that could very easily have become melodramatic, is handled with superb restraint and subtlety.
Look for Fred Gwynne among Lee J. Cobb's henchmen.
According to the IMDB trivia page, Frank Sinatra was originally picked for the part of Terry Malloy. I get the shakes every time I think of that.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Aug 31, 2020 11:52:59 GMT
I don't like the rats involved (Schulberg and Kazan), but the movie is a 10/10.
I first watched this at 17, and then rewinded, and watched it again. I can't say that about any other movie.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Aug 31, 2020 19:49:35 GMT
Awesome film - very powerful - one of Brando's best (and I'm not a Brando fan). Marie Saint's first big deal role. Fabulous cast. A classic.
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Post by petrolino on Aug 31, 2020 23:36:01 GMT
Awesome film - very powerful - one of Brando's best (and I'm not a Brando fan). Marie Saint's first big deal role. Fabulous cast. A classic. Some executives warned Elia Kazan not to cast Eva Marie Saint when so many distinguished Hollywood actresses would take the role. He knew the actress from Newark, New Jersey was perfect for the role, and I believe he was right. I just read today that Saint is the oldest living Oscar-winning actress now, with the recent passing of Olivia De Havilland.
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Post by avocadojoe on Sept 1, 2020 3:27:18 GMT
Awesome film - very powerful - one of Brando's best (and I'm not a Brando fan). Marie Saint's first big deal role. Fabulous cast. A classic. Some executives warned Elia Kazan not to cast Eva Marie Saint when so many distinguished Hollywood actresses would take the role. He knew the actress from Newark, New Jersey was perfect for the role, and I believe he was right. I just read today that Saint is the oldest living Oscar-winning actress now, with the recent passing of Olivia De Havilland.
Oh, look. It's 'B' for Bland. I couldn't help myself.
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Post by petrolino on Sept 1, 2020 15:30:55 GMT
The story is as compelling today as it was in the early 1950's and the documentary style photography and New Jersey locations are a time capsule of the era when everything was controlled by The Mob and corrupt unions. I never thought Saint was that beautiful, even at her most glamorous in North by Northwest, but she was acceptably credible here in her film debut. Brando gives what I consider to be the greatest male performance of the decade. The famous scene between him and Rod Steiger, a mine field of complexity that could very easily have become melodramatic, is handled with superb restraint and subtlety. Look for Fred Gwynne among Lee J. Cobb's henchmen. According to the IMDB trivia page, Frank Sinatra was originally picked for the part of Terry Malloy. I get the shakes every time I think of that. There's a nice piece on locations, props and extras online at the Hoboken Historical Museum.
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