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Post by dazz on Sept 1, 2020 7:35:35 GMT
Dunno what makes me wanna puke more, the sight of him, or that you think your being funny.
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Post by Power Ranger on Sept 1, 2020 12:17:49 GMT
Idris Elba as a long-lost or previously unseen relative of King T'Challa. Elba is only three years older than Chadwick Boseman and kind of looks like him. I do not think they will re-cast. I think they will move on to Shuri. She will become the new Black Panther. There's precedent for it as that's exactly what happened in the comic books, and they've already gone a pretty long way towards promoting that character as significant in the movies. I think they'll have T'Challa either sidelined somehow or passing away, and Shuri will become Queen and Black Panther. She's the only one of the blood line. It would be cool if T’challa falls but we only see him masked, yet he has a sizeable role. Like the first third of the film is chaos and he doesn’t have a chance to unmask. Someone could do his voice just fine.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 1, 2020 19:04:24 GMT
They won't recast T'Challa, they'll pass the mantle of Black Panther on to another character.
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Post by bud47 on Sept 1, 2020 19:28:58 GMT
They won't recast T'Challa, they'll pass the mantle of Black Panther on to another character. Passing it on to Shuri is most likely and makes the most sense for Disney/Marvel, especially considering the social climate these days and their continuing push for diversity. However, they'll still have to explain what happened to T'Challa. Probably have to use some digital trickery to resurrect his character for a flashback scene. Although that could offend some. I'm glad they got what they could out of the character while they had him. Such a terrible loss.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 2, 2020 5:39:15 GMT
Idris Elba as a long-lost or previously unseen relative of King T'Challa. Elba is only three years older than Chadwick Boseman and kind of looks like him. But Elba already was in the MCU as Heimdall who has made multiple film appearances. Anyway, I think it would be interesting if they gave the mantle to either Nakia or Okoye, both characters have shown good combat skills and were among the most important women in T'Challa's life. I know its appropriate to have Shuri take up the mantle, but its too soon now, she needs to develop more as character and become more than the super smart tech savvy Princess of Wakanda.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 17:43:04 GMT
I think it's in bad taste to be speculating on who will play him right now- but I do believe that recasting is the best way to keep Chadwick's legacy alive. He built this character into an icon and to just let it vanish would be a disservice to his work and to everyone this character is important to.
Making Shuri the new lead would be a horrible mistake to be honest. It would likely flop and this culturally important franchise would disappear.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 2, 2020 17:55:19 GMT
I think it's in bad taste to be speculating on who will play him right now- but I do believe that recasting is the best way to keep Chadwick's legacy alive. He built this character into an icon and to just let it vanish would be a disservice to his work and to everyone this character is important to. Making Shuri the new lead would be a horrible mistake to be honest. It would likely flop and this culturally important franchise would disappear. Shuri-nuff.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 2, 2020 21:53:51 GMT
They won't recast T'Challa, they'll pass the mantle of Black Panther on to another character. Passing it on to Shuri is most likely and makes the most sense for Disney/Marvel, especially considering the social climate these days and their continuing push for diversity. However, they'll still have to explain what happened to T'Challa. Probably have to use some digital trickery to resurrect his character for a flashback scene. Although that could offend some. I'm glad they got what they could out of the character while they had him. Such a terrible loss. While passing it on to Shuri makes the most sense, I also think it would be a big mistake by Marvel. Shuri's actress has not shown enough acting talent to be able to carry the lead character in her own movie. If they need to pass the BP mantle I'd rather they pass it off to Nakia.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 23:16:41 GMT
Passing it on to Shuri is most likely and makes the most sense for Disney/Marvel, especially considering the social climate these days and their continuing push for diversity. However, they'll still have to explain what happened to T'Challa. Probably have to use some digital trickery to resurrect his character for a flashback scene. Although that could offend some. I'm glad they got what they could out of the character while they had him. Such a terrible loss. While passing it on to Shuri makes the most sense, I also think it would be a big mistake by Marvel. Shuri's actress has not shown enough acting talent to be able to carry the lead character in her own movie. If they need to pass the BP mantle I'd rather they pass it off to Nakia. Nakia would be the best choice if they go this route. it's puzzling to me to see so many automatically go with Shuri.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 3, 2020 20:10:08 GMT
While passing it on to Shuri makes the most sense, I also think it would be a big mistake by Marvel. Shuri's actress has not shown enough acting talent to be able to carry the lead character in her own movie. If they need to pass the BP mantle I'd rather they pass it off to Nakia. Nakia would be the best choice if they go this route. it's puzzling to me to see so many automatically go with Shuri. It's a knee-jerk reaction because it's based on something that happened in the comics. But as far as the movie is concerned it doesn't make that much sense. First, because as I said Letitia Wright has not convinced me that she has enough acting talent to pull a lead character in her own franchise. 2nd, because the character of Shuri doesn't seem emotionally mature enough to be the leader of an entire nation. And lastly, because it was already established in the movie that the mantle of BP and leadership is not passed down to someone simply because they are family. You need to challenge for it and win a duel. In order for Shuri to become the next Black Panther, that means she would need to defeat all challengers from different tribes to a fight, unless she convinces them that she's such a good ruler that they won't challenge. Her character portrayal so far does not support that. She has not demonstrated the fighting skill necessary to defeat all challengers to the throne nor has she displayed the kind of personality to win over their support. If they force it she'll become the next Mary Sue. Nakia is way better situated to take lead. Better actress too.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Sept 3, 2020 21:53:51 GMT
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 4, 2020 18:51:34 GMT
Nakia would be the best choice if they go this route. it's puzzling to me to see so many automatically go with Shuri. It's a knee-jerk reaction because it's based on something that happened in the comics. But as far as the movie is concerned it doesn't make that much sense. First, because as I said Letitia Wright has not convinced me that she has enough acting talent to pull a lead character in her own franchise. 2nd, because the character of Shuri doesn't seem emotionally mature enough to be the leader of an entire nation. And lastly, because it was already established in the movie that the mantle of BP and leadership is not passed down to someone simply because they are family. You need to challenge for it and win a duel. In order for Shuri to become the next Black Panther, that means she would need to defeat all challengers from different tribes to a fight, unless she convinces them that she's such a good ruler that they won't challenge. Her character portrayal so far does not support that. If they force it she'll become the next Mary Sue. Nakia is way better situated to take lead. Better actress too. I agree with most of what you said. They'd have to jump through a lot of hoops to get her to win the throne. They even established how she mocks tradition. M'Baku wouldn't let her become queen without a fight. Only way I can see her winning the throne is if she manipulates M'Baku into being on her council. She'll also need Okoye and Nakia training her.
For the same reason as Shuri, I don't think Nakia can beat M'Baku.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 4, 2020 20:12:18 GMT
It's a knee-jerk reaction because it's based on something that happened in the comics. But as far as the movie is concerned it doesn't make that much sense. First, because as I said Letitia Wright has not convinced me that she has enough acting talent to pull a lead character in her own franchise. 2nd, because the character of Shuri doesn't seem emotionally mature enough to be the leader of an entire nation. And lastly, because it was already established in the movie that the mantle of BP and leadership is not passed down to someone simply because they are family. You need to challenge for it and win a duel. In order for Shuri to become the next Black Panther, that means she would need to defeat all challengers from different tribes to a fight, unless she convinces them that she's such a good ruler that they won't challenge. Her character portrayal so far does not support that. If they force it she'll become the next Mary Sue. Nakia is way better situated to take lead. Better actress too. I agree with most of what you said. They'd have to jump through a lot of hoops to get her to win the throne. They even established how she mocks tradition. M'Baku wouldn't let her become queen without a fight. Only way I can see her winning the throne is if she manipulates M'Baku into being on her council. She'll also need Okoye and Nakia training her.
For the same reason as Shuri, I don't think Nakia can beat M'Baku.
I don't think Nakia can beat M'Baku in a fight, though that's just an assumption on my part. She was the champion of her own tribe and was offered the right to challenge T'Challa. I assume that means she's quite skilled. But even if she can't beat him in a fight, she might be able to convince him to support her instead and not challenge her. She has enough gravitas to her personality that I can see her managing it whereas Shuri would probably just irritate M'Baku.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 5, 2020 11:07:53 GMT
I agree with most of what you said. They'd have to jump through a lot of hoops to get her to win the throne. They even established how she mocks tradition. M'Baku wouldn't let her become queen without a fight. Only way I can see her winning the throne is if she manipulates M'Baku into being on her council. She'll also need Okoye and Nakia training her.
For the same reason as Shuri, I don't think Nakia can beat M'Baku.
I don't think Nakia can beat M'Baku in a fight, though that's just an assumption on my part. She was the champion of her own tribe and was offered the right to challenge T'Challa. I assume that means she's quite skilled. But even if she can't beat him in a fight, she might be able to convince him to support her instead and not challenge her. She has enough gravitas to her personality that I can see her managing it whereas Shuri would probably just irritate M'Baku. In this situation, I think it would be okay to change her character a little. Make her a little more mature and take the mantle of being the Black Panther a little more seriously. I don’t think Shuri ever entertained the thought of being the head of the family. Even when they thought he was dead in the 1st movie, they were gonna give the herb to M’Baku. I can see Shuri being more mature, yet still being that funny character. Also, if you look at her in Black Panther and Infinity War, she matured a bit there. And I think they were playing her as a teenager in Black Panther (younger than the actress).
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