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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 24, 2020 5:12:01 GMT
"Manhunter" is by far my favorite and am watching it right now. Dark, intense and emotional, this one does it for me. It has the best sidebar killer as well as the best HL and my favorite protagonist. William Peterson is so vulnerable, it is touching. Also, great look and amazing score. ***1/2
"Silence of the Lambs" is pretty entertaining, even if I do find Anthony Hopkins' hammy performance to be overrated. **3/4
"Hannibal" - not boring, just gross **
"Red Dragon" - Ed Norton and Ralph Fiennes were badly miscast, imo. And whereas I was very scared for Joan Allen in "Manhunter", I didn't give two hoots for bland ole Emily Watson here. *1/2
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Post by kolchak92 on Sept 24, 2020 5:18:46 GMT
How come Hannibal isn't an option?
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 24, 2020 5:20:50 GMT
How come Hannibal isn't an option? oh damn! My big goof. I'm going to have to delete and redo or else it's not going to make any sense. Thanks for pointing that out to me, kolchak92! Edit. Deleting and redoing seems a little neurotic, so I just came up with another thread for the two HL movies I don't care for.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 24, 2020 5:24:19 GMT
The Silence of the Lambs - 10/10 (My favorite movie) Hannibal - 7.5/10 Red Dragon - 7.5/10 Manhunter - 6.5/10
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 24, 2020 5:32:25 GMT
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 24, 2020 5:35:44 GMT
"Okay, Hazel, just zip her on down to the letter 'G'... I love that scene. Brian Cox is one of my favorite actors.
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Post by movielover on Sept 24, 2020 6:40:28 GMT
Manhunter
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Sept 24, 2020 7:31:38 GMT
Silence of the Lambs
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Post by Xcalatë on Sept 24, 2020 7:48:10 GMT
I Love Manhunter because its very '80s' but Silenece is just Brilliant so it gets my vote.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 24, 2020 14:56:52 GMT
Red Dragon.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Sept 24, 2020 16:41:28 GMT
Silence Of The Lambs
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 24, 2020 21:15:39 GMT
Silence Red Dragon Manhunter
Hannibal was phlegm
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 24, 2020 21:56:21 GMT
Silence Red Dragon Manhunter Hannibal was phlegm What didn't you like about "Hannibal"? I didn't much like it, either. SOTL was somewhat over the top to begin with and this one just ran with it. And GG's death scene was so gross and unpleasant.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 24, 2020 22:04:23 GMT
Silence Red Dragon Manhunter Hannibal was phlegm What didn't you like about "Hannibal"? I didn't much like it, either. SOTL was somewhat over the top to begin with and this one just ran with it. And GG's death scene was so gross and unpleasant. I thought Julianne Moore was awful as Clarisse Starling and Ray Liotta and Gary Oldman were just plain awful. Anthony Hopkins was good but not as unsettling as Silence. And I'm no fan of Ridley Scott (my opinion). As a sequel, it is in the Awful Sequel Hall of Shame, up with Speed II and Caddyshack II.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 24, 2020 22:34:08 GMT
What didn't you like about "Hannibal"? I didn't much like it, either. SOTL was somewhat over the top to begin with and this one just ran with it. And GG's death scene was so gross and unpleasant. I thought Julianne Moore was awful as Clarisse Starling and Ray Liotta and Gary Oldman were just plain awful. Anthony Hopkins was good but not as unsettling as Silence. And I'm no fan of Ridley Scott (my opinion). As a sequel, it is in the Awful Sequel Hall of Shame, up with Speed II and Caddyshack II.
I can perfectly understand the hate that some people have for Hannibal. I see it as it's own movie and not a direct sequel to The Silence of the Lambs, which is my favorite movie. I love Hannibal in all it's OTT trashy glory and will defend it to my dying breath as Hannibal Lecter slits my throat and eats me body parts.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 24, 2020 22:40:03 GMT
I thought Julianne Moore was awful as Clarisse Starling and Ray Liotta and Gary Oldman were just plain awful. Anthony Hopkins was good but not as unsettling as Silence. And I'm no fan of Ridley Scott (my opinion). As a sequel, it is in the Awful Sequel Hall of Shame, up with Speed II and Caddyshack II.
I can perfectly understand the hate that some people have for Hannibal. I see it as it's own movie and not a direct sequel to The Silence of the Lambs, which is my favorite movie. I love Hannibal in all it's OTT trashy glory and will defend it to my dying breath as Hannibal Lecter slits my throat and eats me body parts. Silence was cast perfectly. Red Dragon had a very good cast. Hannibal had a good cast on paper. If they had just made Julienne Moore a different FBI agent instead of pawning her off as Agent Starling, it might have worked better. There was no need for a "Darren Stevens" scenario
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 24, 2020 22:45:19 GMT
I can perfectly understand the hate that some people have for Hannibal. I see it as it's own movie and not a direct sequel to The Silence of the Lambs, which is my favorite movie. I love Hannibal in all it's OTT trashy glory and will defend it to my dying breath as Hannibal Lecter slits my throat and eats me body parts. Silence was cast perfectly. Red Dragon had a very good cast. Hannibal had a good cast on paper. If they had just made Julienne Moore a different FBI agent instead of pawning her off as Agent Starling, it might have worked better. There was no need for a "Darren Stevens" scenario
I actually like all the acting in Hannibal a lot and am glad in retrospect that they didn't recast Jodie Foster. That way there is more of a disconnect between this movie and my favorite movie. I think Moore perfectly captures the no longer idealistic Clarice from the former, but now as an unhappy worn down FBI agent who sees everything through a more cynical lens. The southern accent is inconsistent, but that doesn't bother me. Gary Oldman is hammy gold imo. Hannibal is basically a whole bunch of stuff that appeals to my tastes, no pun intended. ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/m1dg20al5/biggrin.gif) The Silence of the Lambs is a masterpiece. Hannibal is a trashterpiece.
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 24, 2020 23:17:58 GMT
Silence was cast perfectly. Red Dragon had a very good cast. Hannibal had a good cast on paper. If they had just made Julienne Moore a different FBI agent instead of pawning her off as Agent Starling, it might have worked better. There was no need for a "Darren Stevens" scenario
I actually like all the acting in Hannibal a lot and am glad in retrospect that they didn't recast Jodie Foster. That way there is more of a disconnect between this movie and my favorite movie. I think Moore perfectly captures the no longer idealistic Clarice from the former, but now as an unhappy worn down FBI agent who sees everything through a more cynical lens. The southern accent is inconsistent, but that doesn't bother me. Gary Oldman is hammy gold imo. Hannibal is basically a whole bunch of stuff that appeals to my tastes, no pun intended. ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/m1dg20al5/biggrin.gif) The Silence of the Lambs is a masterpiece. Hannibal is a trashterpiece. Thanks for your insights. Yes, Gary Oldman was hammy and, imo, even more gleefully despicable than Hopkins. I felt no sadness when he got his!
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 24, 2020 23:22:54 GMT
I actually like all the acting in Hannibal a lot and am glad in retrospect that they didn't recast Jodie Foster. That way there is more of a disconnect between this movie and my favorite movie. I think Moore perfectly captures the no longer idealistic Clarice from the former, but now as an unhappy worn down FBI agent who sees everything through a more cynical lens. The southern accent is inconsistent, but that doesn't bother me. Gary Oldman is hammy gold imo. Hannibal is basically a whole bunch of stuff that appeals to my tastes, no pun intended. ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/m1dg20al5/biggrin.gif) The Silence of the Lambs is a masterpiece. Hannibal is a trashterpiece. Thanks for your insights. Yes, Gary Oldman was hammy and, imo, even more gleefully despicable than Hopkins. I felt no sadness when he got his! Yes, which is why the movie gets away with making Hannibal Lecter the "hero" of the movie. Every character that Lecter kills in the movie is also a bad or extremely unethical person.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 24, 2020 23:38:08 GMT
"Manhunter" is by far my favorite and am watching it right now. Dark, intense and emotional, this one does it for me. It has the best sidebar killer as well as the best HL and my favorite protagonist. William Peterson is so vulnerable, it is touching. Also, great look and amazing score. ***1/2 "Silence of the Lambs" is pretty entertaining, even if I do find Anthony Hopkins' hammy performance to be overrated. **3/4 "Hannibal" - not boring, just gross ** "Red Dragon" - Ed Norton and Ralph Fiennes were badly miscast, imo. And whereas I was very scared for Joan Allen in "Manhunter", I didn't give two hoots for bland ole Emily Watson here. *1/2 Manhunter is a very inconsistent movie for me. There is so much about it I like a lot, but too much that I dislike and even some stuff I hate about it. There is a lot of nuance, but also a lot of really stupid stuff and some stuff that is so subtle it barely makes an impression at all. Brian Cox's performance and the blink and you'll miss it Red Dragon stuff for example. The highs are so high that the lows are more distracting than they would be otherwise. If Red Dragon and Manhunter were combined, that would have made a great movie imo. Emily Watson deserved an Oscar nomination for supporting actress imo. I think Joan Allen is bland in Manhunter by comparison.
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