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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 4, 2020 16:46:34 GMT
"Establish courts of justice"
I don't see any problem with this one, I mean we need courts and trials to have a functioning society, there is no getting around this. Stealing and murder is obviously bad on the face of it, but even then there's moral ambiguity (stealing food to survive, self defense, war, Troley Dillemma)
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 4, 2020 16:53:36 GMT
"Establish courts of justice" I don't see any problem with this one, I mean we need courts and trials to have a functioning society, there is no getting around this. Stealing and murder is obviously bad on the face of it, but even then there's moral ambiguity (stealing food to survive, self defense, war, Troley Dillemma) Not to be a smarty, but have you ever heard of something called the French Revolution? They had courts of justice too. So did the Nazis. In theory they were great though.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 4, 2020 16:54:38 GMT
No, it rests on who made it. That's such a stupid thing to say. A good idea is a good idea no matter who made it. A bad idea is a bad idea no matter who made it. Fine. You want to accept the Noahide Laws as legitimate? Go right ahead. No one is stopping you.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 4, 2020 16:56:29 GMT
"Establish courts of justice" I don't see any problem with this one, I mean we need courts and trials to have a functioning society, there is no getting around this. Stealing and murder is obviously bad on the face of it, but even then there's moral ambiguity (stealing food to survive, self defense, war, Troley Dillemma) Not to be a smarty, but have you ever heard of something called the French Revolution? They had courts of justice too. So did the Nazis. In theory they were great though. Obviously court systems can have corruption, which need to be addressed, but I would still prefer that to the alternatives (mob rule, vigilante justice, dictators)
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 4, 2020 17:15:49 GMT
Not to be a smarty, but have you ever heard of something called the French Revolution? They had courts of justice too. So did the Nazis. In theory they were great though. Obviously court systems can have corruption, which need to be addressed, but I would still prefer that to the alternatives (mob rule, vigilante justice, dictators) I see your point. The difference between them was explored in one of my favorite films. ![](http://is1.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Video4/v4/6b/a8/8e/6ba88ee2-bbad-acc4-3b01-3e77f2d6e6ff/source/1600x2400sr.jpg) ![](http://is1.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Video4/v4/6b/a8/8e/6ba88ee2-bbad-acc4-3b01-3e77f2d6e6ff/source/1600x2400sr.jpg) ![](http://is1.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Video4/v4/6b/a8/8e/6ba88ee2-bbad-acc4-3b01-3e77f2d6e6ff/source/1600x2400sr.jpg) ![](https://fanart.tv/fanart/movies/4929/movieposter/hang-em-high-5350ed003455e.jpg)
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Post by goz on Oct 4, 2020 20:41:04 GMT
That's such a stupid thing to say. A good idea is a good idea no matter who made it. A bad idea is a bad idea no matter who made it. Fine. You want to accept the Noahide Laws as legitimate? Go right ahead. No one is stopping you. Are you just being a regular anti-Semite in this thread or do you have some other agenda?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 6, 2020 17:23:12 GMT
The liar in this video is going to tell you that the Noahide Laws were given by God to Noah after the Flood. They weren't. It's a lie. Why am I posting the video here then? Good question! It's because I think everyone should hear both sides.
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Post by drystyx on Oct 6, 2020 18:46:35 GMT
Hadn't heard of Noahide before this. It really became necessary at one point, because of the Sabbath. It's obvious that if the Old Testament is true History, that the people were once different than they are today, even in genotype.
To explain why the Sabbath rules were treated different, we have to go to the fact that people were different.
This is hard for modern day new age idealists to swallow. They want to call it something else, because they want to believe those people whom Israel warred with were actual human souls. That's the idea that really caused the problem.
There is a reason that traitors are godless. It's because they want to believe the enemy is good. In modern times, the enemy is fellow humans, but that's not how it was, and that's what the modernists want to sell us on, the idea that the creatures Israel were told to massacre were loving, caring human souls. That idea actually takes more blind faith than any other idea.
More on that when some "hater" decides to protest that humans are inhuman and inhuman creatures deserve better.
But the instances when God called for the total massacre of these creatures was to help keep demons away from humanity. Saul and others spared certain ones, and the fact that they chose whom to spare made those creatures even more dangerous, because fitter ones were allowed to breed. Their descendants even caused massacres in later times, as with the comrades of Esther.
This was thousands of years ago. By now, those demonic beings have infiltrated into probably all of us. Oh, there may be a dozen or so "saints" out there who are capable of being Godly, but the divisiveness of people since then proves my point.
Now, back to the laws that Moses recorded. He was dealing with real "people". We're only a fraction of that. So when he wrote those words, it was for "real people", who could deal with each other.
The two most striking examples are "two witnesses" and "Sabbath".
First, "two witnesses". The "lie" was just not loved as much by God's real people. There actually was a time when the word of two witnesses could mean something. That's hard to believe today. Instead, the more witnesses there are that agree today, the more likely it is to be a total lie. I say this from over sixty years experience. Never once have I seen two or more agree upon something that wasn't a total lie. Never. Whether for against me, I've never seen it.
That's because we are demon possessed to love to fabricate our own story and discard the truth. That's why forensic evidence has become so needed today in solving crimes.
But most of what the Noahide laws is based on is the need for stopping abuse of the Sabbath on the Sabbath. If everyone obeys the Sabbath, then those who decide to murder, threaten, steal, loot, pillage, on the Sabbath, have a free hand, and while in the day of Moses this might have been a tiny fraction of invasive species, later, it grew to too large a number. Israel would have been wiped out totally if they didn't do anything to stop abuse on the Sabbath.
Why wasn't the Holy God there to protect them supernaturally on the Sabbath against the invasive species? Because their very fathers allowed the invasive species to enter their family lines. The very gene pool was foiled, more and more.
So actually, nearly all of us are mutants, half orc, Uruk Hai creatures, and Jesus came to save us. That's not "adding" to the law. That's fixing what was broke. Jesus was pure, in a system devised by the enemy, loved by the new species, of which we are members, and sacrificed his perfect human being to give us a Holy Ghost to cling to, or else we'd just continue to be "Uruk Hai" fools for Satan.
Looks like the speaker is speaking for those who can obey all the laws, but he doesn't differentiate. And there is a difference between intentionally murdering someone and picking up a stick on Saturday (which I think is the original Sabbath day). If no one ever disobeyed the Sabbath, everyone could have miraculous supernatural intervention, but when too many of this new species fight back the spirits of God, then we have no defense until the Holy Ghost is available. And that Holy Ghost mainly just comforts us for after this inferior experience of existence is finished.
I don't think the Levites had much choice when their world became corrupted. The prophets had little choice. Samuel had to contend with the most pure son of Judah ordering a man to be sacrificed to die in a battle so this pure descendant of Judah could steal the man's wife (widow). A pure descendant of Judah who was unforgiving on his deathbed of a man who once threw a rock at him.
I don't think the pharisees and sadducees had much choice, either. So when Jesus was harsh on them, he meant on the spirits that made them self righteous in thinking they were actually pure spirits. He said as much in referring to how they were not true spiritual sons of Abraham.
So the Noahide laws are really just as impossible as the actual laws. They give more of an illusion of being able to keep the law, and I think that's why you and the speaker believe they are something to "beware" of. If we think we can be perfect, we're in for a big letdown.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 6, 2020 19:01:15 GMT
Hadn't heard of Noahide before this. It really became necessary at one point, because of the Sabbath. It's obvious that if the Old Testament is true History, that the people were once different than they are today, even in genotype. To explain why the Sabbath rules were treated different, we have to go to the fact that people were different. This is hard for modern day new age idealists to swallow. They want to call it something else, because they want to believe those people whom Israel warred with were actual human souls. That's the idea that really caused the problem. There is a reason that traitors are godless. It's because they want to believe the enemy is good. In modern times, the enemy is fellow humans, but that's not how it was, and that's what the modernists want to sell us on, the idea that the creatures Israel were told to massacre were loving, caring human souls. That idea actually takes more blind faith than any other idea. More on that when some "hater" decides to protest that humans are inhuman and inhuman creatures deserve better. But the instances when God called for the total massacre of these creatures was to help keep demons away from humanity. Saul and others spared certain ones, and the fact that they chose whom to spare made those creatures even more dangerous, because fitter ones were allowed to breed. Their descendants even caused massacres in later times, as with the comrades of Esther. This was thousands of years ago. By now, those demonic beings have infiltrated into probably all of us. Oh, there may be a dozen or so "saints" out there who are capable of being Godly, but the divisiveness of people since then proves my point. Now, back to the laws that Moses recorded. He was dealing with real "people". We're only a fraction of that. So when he wrote those words, it was for "real people", who could deal with each other. The two most striking examples are "two witnesses" and "Sabbath". First, "two witnesses". The "lie" was just not loved as much by God's real people. There actually was a time when the word of two witnesses could mean something. That's hard to believe today. Instead, the more witnesses there are that agree today, the more likely it is to be a total lie. I say this from over sixty years experience. Never once have I seen two or more agree upon something that wasn't a total lie. Never. Whether for against me, I've never seen it. That's because we are demon possessed to love to fabricate our own story and discard the truth. That's why forensic evidence has become so needed today in solving crimes. But most of what the Noahide laws is based on is the need for stopping abuse of the Sabbath on the Sabbath. If everyone obeys the Sabbath, then those who decide to murder, threaten, steal, loot, pillage, on the Sabbath, have a free hand, and while in the day of Moses this might have been a tiny fraction of invasive species, later, it grew to too large a number. Israel would have been wiped out totally if they didn't do anything to stop abuse on the Sabbath. Why wasn't the Holy God there to protect them supernaturally on the Sabbath against the invasive species? Because their very fathers allowed the invasive species to enter their family lines. The very gene pool was foiled, more and more. So actually, nearly all of us are mutants, half orc, Uruk Hai creatures, and Jesus came to save us. That's not "adding" to the law. That's fixing what was broke. Jesus was pure, in a system devised by the enemy, loved by the new species, of which we are members, and sacrificed his perfect human being to give us a Holy Ghost to cling to, or else we'd just continue to be "Uruk Hai" fools for Satan. Looks like the speaker is speaking for those who can obey all the laws, but he doesn't differentiate. And there is a difference between intentionally murdering someone and picking up a stick on Saturday (which I think is the original Sabbath day). If no one ever disobeyed the Sabbath, everyone could have miraculous supernatural intervention, but when too many of this new species fight back the spirits of God, then we have no defense until the Holy Ghost is available. And that Holy Ghost mainly just comforts us for after this inferior experience of existence is finished. I don't think the Levites had much choice when their world became corrupted. The prophets had little choice. Samuel had to contend with the most pure son of Judah ordering a man to be sacrificed to die in a battle so this pure descendant of Judah could steal the man's wife (widow). A pure descendant of Judah who was unforgiving on his deathbed of a man who once threw a rock at him. I don't think the pharisees and sadducees had much choice, either. So when Jesus was harsh on them, he meant on the spirits that made them self righteous in thinking they were actually pure spirits. He said as much in referring to how they were not true spiritual sons of Abraham. So the Noahide laws are really just as impossible as the actual laws. They give more of an illusion of being able to keep the law, and I think that's why you and the speaker believe they are something to "beware" of. If we think we can be perfect, we're in for a big letdown. My main concern is that the Noahide Laws will be enforced worldwide in the coming years, and although I know it will happen, and I know that I cannot stop it, I would blame myself if I did not make some effort to tell people about it, so they can make an informed choice. BTW, was not Saul of Tarsus one of the Pharisees? He changed. It's possible. It didn't make him perfect. In the last ten years I've changed and it hasn't made me perfect either, but it was a step in the right direction.
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Post by drystyx on Oct 6, 2020 19:15:00 GMT
But the instances when God called for the total massacre of these creatures was to help keep demons away from humanity. Saul and others spared certain ones, and the fact that they chose whom to spare made those creatures even more dangerous, because fitter ones were allowed to breed. Their descendants even caused massacres in later times, as with the comrades of Esther. My main concern is that the Noahide Laws will be enforced worldwide in the coming years, and although I know it will happen, and I know that I cannot stop it, I would blame myself if I did not make some effort to tell people about it, so they can make an informed choice. BTW, was not Saul of Tarsus one of the Pharisees? He changed. It's possible. It didn't make him perfect. In the last ten years I've changed and it hasn't made me perfect either, but it was a step in the right direction. I should have made it clear. I meant the other "Saul", the tall one, if you're thinking about that paragraph.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 6, 2020 19:29:46 GMT
My main concern is that the Noahide Laws will be enforced worldwide in the coming years, and although I know it will happen, and I know that I cannot stop it, I would blame myself if I did not make some effort to tell people about it, so they can make an informed choice. BTW, was not Saul of Tarsus one of the Pharisees? He changed. It's possible. It didn't make him perfect. In the last ten years I've changed and it hasn't made me perfect either, but it was a step in the right direction. I should have made it clear. I meant the other "Saul", the tall one, if you're thinking about that paragraph. Oh, I knew you meant King Saul. It was your later writing about the Pharisees and Sadducees having not much choice that reminded me of the other Saul.
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Post by maya55555 on Oct 6, 2020 20:26:45 GMT
Yeah, they taste sweet as honey, don't they? What about, "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"? Is that essentially what you believe? That is the teaching of Thelema, by Crowley.
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Post by goz on Oct 6, 2020 21:31:04 GMT
Hadn't heard of Noahide before this. It really became necessary at one point, because of the Sabbath. It's obvious that if the Old Testament is true History, that the people were once different than they are today, even in genotype. To explain why the Sabbath rules were treated different, we have to go to the fact that people were different. This is hard for modern day new age idealists to swallow. They want to call it something else, because they want to believe those people whom Israel warred with were actual human souls. That's the idea that really caused the problem. There is a reason that traitors are godless. It's because they want to believe the enemy is good. In modern times, the enemy is fellow humans, but that's not how it was, and that's what the modernists want to sell us on, the idea that the creatures Israel were told to massacre were loving, caring human souls. That idea actually takes more blind faith than any other idea. More on that when some "hater" decides to protest that humans are inhuman and inhuman creatures deserve better. But the instances when God called for the total massacre of these creatures was to help keep demons away from humanity. Saul and others spared certain ones, and the fact that they chose whom to spare made those creatures even more dangerous, because fitter ones were allowed to breed. Their descendants even caused massacres in later times, as with the comrades of Esther. This was thousands of years ago. By now, those demonic beings have infiltrated into probably all of us. Oh, there may be a dozen or so "saints" out there who are capable of being Godly, but the divisiveness of people since then proves my point. Now, back to the laws that Moses recorded. He was dealing with real "people". We're only a fraction of that. So when he wrote those words, it was for "real people", who could deal with each other. The two most striking examples are "two witnesses" and "Sabbath". First, "two witnesses". The "lie" was just not loved as much by God's real people. There actually was a time when the word of two witnesses could mean something. That's hard to believe today. Instead, the more witnesses there are that agree today, the more likely it is to be a total lie. I say this from over sixty years experience. Never once have I seen two or more agree upon something that wasn't a total lie. Never. Whether for against me, I've never seen it. That's because we are demon possessed to love to fabricate our own story and discard the truth. That's why forensic evidence has become so needed today in solving crimes. But most of what the Noahide laws is based on is the need for stopping abuse of the Sabbath on the Sabbath. If everyone obeys the Sabbath, then those who decide to murder, threaten, steal, loot, pillage, on the Sabbath, have a free hand, and while in the day of Moses this might have been a tiny fraction of invasive species, later, it grew to too large a number. Israel would have been wiped out totally if they didn't do anything to stop abuse on the Sabbath. Why wasn't the Holy God there to protect them supernaturally on the Sabbath against the invasive species? Because their very fathers allowed the invasive species to enter their family lines. The very gene pool was foiled, more and more. So actually, nearly all of us are mutants, half orc, Uruk Hai creatures, and Jesus came to save us. That's not "adding" to the law. That's fixing what was broke. Jesus was pure, in a system devised by the enemy, loved by the new species, of which we are members, and sacrificed his perfect human being to give us a Holy Ghost to cling to, or else we'd just continue to be "Uruk Hai" fools for Satan. Looks like the speaker is speaking for those who can obey all the laws, but he doesn't differentiate. And there is a difference between intentionally murdering someone and picking up a stick on Saturday (which I think is the original Sabbath day). If no one ever disobeyed the Sabbath, everyone could have miraculous supernatural intervention, but when too many of this new species fight back the spirits of God, then we have no defense until the Holy Ghost is available. And that Holy Ghost mainly just comforts us for after this inferior experience of existence is finished. I don't think the Levites had much choice when their world became corrupted. The prophets had little choice. Samuel had to contend with the most pure son of Judah ordering a man to be sacrificed to die in a battle so this pure descendant of Judah could steal the man's wife (widow). A pure descendant of Judah who was unforgiving on his deathbed of a man who once threw a rock at him. I don't think the pharisees and sadducees had much choice, either. So when Jesus was harsh on them, he meant on the spirits that made them self righteous in thinking they were actually pure spirits. He said as much in referring to how they were not true spiritual sons of Abraham. So the Noahide laws are really just as impossible as the actual laws. They give more of an illusion of being able to keep the law, and I think that's why you and the speaker believe they are something to "beware" of. If we think we can be perfect, we're in for a big letdown. My main concern is that the Noahide Laws will be enforced worldwide in the coming years, and although I know it will happen, and I know that I cannot stop it, I would blame myself if I did not make some effort to tell people about it, so they can make an informed choice. BTW, was not Saul of Tarsus one of the Pharisees? He changed. It's possible. It didn't make him perfect. In the last ten years I've changed and it hasn't made me perfect either, but it was a step in the right direction. No wonder you are a depressed little redneck geriatric twink, however it is hard to decide which of your prognostications is going to be the Armageddon for us all. Let us hope that we have a choice of Sharia Law, Noahide Law, the banks and governments injecting us with mind altering vaccines and chemsprays and taking our cash and money away, New World Order, One World government, the Masons, The Illuminati, Planet X, weird moon movements etc etc etc that you have blathered on about interminably for years....wait I forgot the Third Temple, huge aliens with big heads.............................. personally I think it will be climate change. edit: Wait. how could I forget the FEMA camps, weirdly closed Walmart stores and the fake pandemic.....
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 6, 2020 21:42:31 GMT
My main concern is that the Noahide Laws will be enforced worldwide in the coming years, and although I know it will happen, and I know that I cannot stop it, I would blame myself if I did not make some effort to tell people about it, so they can make an informed choice. BTW, was not Saul of Tarsus one of the Pharisees? He changed. It's possible. It didn't make him perfect. In the last ten years I've changed and it hasn't made me perfect either, but it was a step in the right direction. No wonder you are a depressed little redneck geriatric twink, however it is hard to decide which of your prognostications is going to be the Armageddon for us all. Let us hope that we have a choice of Sharia Law, Noahide Law, the banks and governments injecting us with mind altering vaccines and chemsprays and taking our cash and money away, New World Order, One World government, the Masons, The Illuminati, Planet X, weird moon movements etc etc etc that you have blathered on about interminably for years....wait I forgot the Third Temple, huge aliens with big heads.............................. personally I think it will be climate change. edit: Wait. how could I forget the FEMA camps, weirdly closed Walmart stores and the fake pandemic..... ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/lGOfpN0lapOak/giphy.gif)
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Post by goz on Oct 6, 2020 21:49:28 GMT
No wonder you are a depressed little redneck geriatric twink, however it is hard to decide which of your prognostications is going to be the Armageddon for us all. Let us hope that we have a choice of Sharia Law, Noahide Law, the banks and governments injecting us with mind altering vaccines and chemsprays and taking our cash and money away, New World Order, One World government, the Masons, The Illuminati, Planet X, weird moon movements etc etc etc that you have blathered on about interminably for years....wait I forgot the Third Temple, huge aliens with big heads.............................. personally I think it will be climate change. edit: Wait. how could I forget the FEMA camps, weirdly closed Walmart stores and the fake pandemic..... ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/lGOfpN0lapOak/giphy.gif) Yeah! 'yellow' chemtrails out your arse pretty much sums you up!
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Post by Arlon10 on Oct 6, 2020 23:31:12 GMT
What about, "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"? Is that essentially what you believe? That is the teaching of Thelema, by Crowley. That is probably not a good thing then. And I had heard that before.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 14, 2020 18:34:44 GMT
I start a thread about the Noahide Laws and Pauls Laugh is there almost instantly to trivialize it. And then on another board he writes this: Paul, what gives, buddy? ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/5hoy7902h/confused.gif) Enforced worship on Sunday except for Jews? Do you believe this will happen, or not? Whichever it is, I think it's kind of slimy to act like you do on one board and don't on another board.
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Post by goz on Oct 14, 2020 20:36:42 GMT
Hadn't heard of Noahide before this. It really became necessary at one point, because of the Sabbath. It's obvious that if the Old Testament is true History, that the people were once different than they are today, even in genotype. To explain why the Sabbath rules were treated different, we have to go to the fact that people were different. This is hard for modern day new age idealists to swallow. They want to call it something else, because they want to believe those people whom Israel warred with were actual human souls. That's the idea that really caused the problem. There is a reason that traitors are godless. It's because they want to believe the enemy is good. In modern times, the enemy is fellow humans, but that's not how it was, and that's what the modernists want to sell us on, the idea that the creatures Israel were told to massacre were loving, caring human souls. That idea actually takes more blind faith than any other idea. More on that when some "hater" decides to protest that humans are inhuman and inhuman creatures deserve better. But the instances when God called for the total massacre of these creatures was to help keep demons away from humanity. Saul and others spared certain ones, and the fact that they chose whom to spare made those creatures even more dangerous, because fitter ones were allowed to breed. Their descendants even caused massacres in later times, as with the comrades of Esther. This was thousands of years ago. By now, those demonic beings have infiltrated into probably all of us. Oh, there may be a dozen or so "saints" out there who are capable of being Godly, but the divisiveness of people since then proves my point. Now, back to the laws that Moses recorded. He was dealing with real "people". We're only a fraction of that. So when he wrote those words, it was for "real people", who could deal with each other. The two most striking examples are "two witnesses" and "Sabbath". First, "two witnesses". The "lie" was just not loved as much by God's real people. There actually was a time when the word of two witnesses could mean something. That's hard to believe today. Instead, the more witnesses there are that agree today, the more likely it is to be a total lie. I say this from over sixty years experience. Never once have I seen two or more agree upon something that wasn't a total lie. Never. Whether for against me, I've never seen it. That's because we are demon possessed to love to fabricate our own story and discard the truth. That's why forensic evidence has become so needed today in solving crimes. But most of what the Noahide laws is based on is the need for stopping abuse of the Sabbath on the Sabbath. If everyone obeys the Sabbath, then those who decide to murder, threaten, steal, loot, pillage, on the Sabbath, have a free hand, and while in the day of Moses this might have been a tiny fraction of invasive species, later, it grew to too large a number. Israel would have been wiped out totally if they didn't do anything to stop abuse on the Sabbath. Why wasn't the Holy God there to protect them supernaturally on the Sabbath against the invasive species? Because their very fathers allowed the invasive species to enter their family lines. The very gene pool was foiled, more and more. So actually, nearly all of us are mutants, half orc, Uruk Hai creatures, and Jesus came to save us. That's not "adding" to the law. That's fixing what was broke. Jesus was pure, in a system devised by the enemy, loved by the new species, of which we are members, and sacrificed his perfect human being to give us a Holy Ghost to cling to, or else we'd just continue to be "Uruk Hai" fools for Satan. Looks like the speaker is speaking for those who can obey all the laws, but he doesn't differentiate. And there is a difference between intentionally murdering someone and picking up a stick on Saturday (which I think is the original Sabbath day). If no one ever disobeyed the Sabbath, everyone could have miraculous supernatural intervention, but when too many of this new species fight back the spirits of God, then we have no defense until the Holy Ghost is available. And that Holy Ghost mainly just comforts us for after this inferior experience of existence is finished. I don't think the Levites had much choice when their world became corrupted. The prophets had little choice. Samuel had to contend with the most pure son of Judah ordering a man to be sacrificed to die in a battle so this pure descendant of Judah could steal the man's wife (widow). A pure descendant of Judah who was unforgiving on his deathbed of a man who once threw a rock at him. I don't think the pharisees and sadducees had much choice, either. So when Jesus was harsh on them, he meant on the spirits that made them self righteous in thinking they were actually pure spirits. He said as much in referring to how they were not true spiritual sons of Abraham. So the Noahide laws are really just as impossible as the actual laws. They give more of an illusion of being able to keep the law, and I think that's why you and the speaker believe they are something to "beware" of. If we think we can be perfect, we're in for a big letdown. My main concern is that the Noahide Laws will be enforced worldwide in the coming years, and although I know it will happen, and I know that I cannot stop it, I would blame myself if I did not make some effort to tell people about it, so they can make an informed choice. BTW, was not Saul of Tarsus one of the Pharisees? He changed. It's possible. It didn't make him perfect. In the last ten years I've changed and it hasn't made me perfect either, but it was a step in the right direction. 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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 14, 2020 20:42:47 GMT
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Post by goz on Oct 14, 2020 20:44:52 GMT
Luckily I am an anti-bullshit agnostic atheist!
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