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Post by Popeye Doyle on Oct 9, 2020 3:13:03 GMT
I like to think neither Childs nor MacReady were infected and just enjoyed a drink in their final moments.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 9, 2020 3:52:18 GMT
I actually think it is equally likely that one of them was the Thing and that both were not the Thing.
I don't think either of them were going to survive for much longer though.
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 9, 2020 12:46:18 GMT
I'm pretty confident that MacReady is human. Childs, I'm not so sure about.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 9, 2020 12:51:35 GMT
It's such a great ending no matter how you spin it. They're both human, one of them is, they're both aliens. No matter what, they're both going to die, and there's nothing they can do but drink together.
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Post by spooner5020 on Oct 9, 2020 14:30:36 GMT
I never got that they were both going to die. I thought they were waiting on a rescue team or something. I always thought Childs was the thing at the end.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Oct 9, 2020 19:07:23 GMT
I never got that they were both going to die. I thought they were waiting on a rescue team or something. I always thought Childs was the thing at the end. Why would a rescue team be on the way? They weren't able to ever contact anyone to let them know what was going on. Nope, they were both doomed. I like to think that they were both still human and empathized with one another about their situation.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 9, 2020 19:12:05 GMT
The fact that he offers him a drink was meant to call back to him pouring a drink in the computer chess game. Sort of along the lines that MacReady realized he lost but wasn't going to get pissed off like he did earlier. The Dark Horse comic which continues is really good. Tells you what happened to them right after.
A rescue team comes and they see a burnt out corpse in the snow and MacReady is like: "don't touch it!" And they think he is crazy.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Oct 9, 2020 20:39:25 GMT
I never got that they were both going to die. I thought they were waiting on a rescue team or something. I always thought Childs was the thing at the end. Why would a rescue team be on the way? They weren't able to ever contact anyone to let them know what was going on. Nope, they were both doomed. I like to think that they were both still human and empathized with one another about their situation. Yeah, Mac also mentions the rescue team won’t arrive until Spring.
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Post by Marv on Oct 9, 2020 21:43:13 GMT
I think Childes is assimilated and Macready is human.
I think Blair/Thing dig into the base below and snuck up the stair they show down the hall from where Childes was watching the door. There is also a coat missing from the rack near the door where Childes was standing. So I think Blair killed him, ripping thru his coat in the process and then killed the generator while newly formed Childes thing grabbed a spare coat from the rack and ran into out of the base to finish assimilation.
But I love that it’s unclear cuz that goes hand in hand with the paranoia of the film.
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Post by Morgana on Oct 10, 2020 9:09:45 GMT
If one of them is infected then he/it won't die, it will just freeze and re-animate when dug out of the snow when a rescue team arrives, as it did when it was previously dug up.
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Post by jonesjxd on Oct 11, 2020 21:33:41 GMT
It's such a brilliant ending because it does not matter at all if both of them were infected, or if one of them were infected or neither were infected, the outcome will remain the same regardless. They'll both be dead in a matter of hours.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 11, 2020 21:38:52 GMT
There's a scene in the comic book sequel where a guy discovers everyone in the room with him is a thing and he has to cut off his infected hand to escape.
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Post by Sarge on Oct 12, 2020 1:56:20 GMT
Childs has a flamethrower and doesn't use it so unlikely he's the thing. We've followed MacReady the whole time and there is no reason to believe he is infected except he suggests sitting and waiting to see what happens then passes his bottle to Childs which is a callback to the line they should prepare their own food. There is no way to know if either are the thing but it's fun to speculate.
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Post by sostie on Oct 12, 2020 9:56:16 GMT
There is the lighting theory that was presented by cinematographer Dean Cundey who said he and Carpenter discussed having light subtley indicate who is human and who is not - there is a very subtle light on the eyes of those the are human. However Carpenter asked it not be obvious in the final scene.
There are also comments attributed to Carpenter that Childs is a Thing because you cannot see his breath in the air in the final scene.
Personally I like that it is ambiguous and quite happy if it stays that way
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Post by Marv on Oct 12, 2020 10:21:53 GMT
Can we take a minute to discuss Macreadys plan...what was his plan? To make everything so hot around here the Thing can’t freeze...by blowing up all the buildings and protection from the cold? I’ve watched this movie countless times and that part has never made much sense to me.
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Post by sostie on Oct 12, 2020 10:59:39 GMT
Can we take a minute to discuss Macreadys plan...what was his plan? To make everything so hot around here the Thing can’t freeze...by blowing up all the buildings and protection from the cold? I’ve watched this movie countless times and that part has never made much sense to me. At the point the plan is made they knew who was and wasn't a Thing. So they decide to blow the shit out of place to destroy the creature (Blair) and stop it getting into the population. Childs going missing casts doubts over whether the plan did actually work.
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Post by sostie on Oct 12, 2020 11:48:45 GMT
The Thing is one of my favorite horror films, but when I think about The Things need to assimilate organic lifeform by digesting and taking it over, for what ultimate purpose would this achieve for its agenda, whatever it is? Would the new Thing replicates act and treat each other better than humans treat each other, once the entire world has been taken over by it? It's compared to a virus. It's purpose or agenda is to spread and survive. The creature that landed in the spaceship was not a Thing...it was an alien assimilated by a Thing.
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Post by sostie on Oct 12, 2020 13:06:56 GMT
It's compared to a virus. It's purpose or agenda is to spread and survive. The creature that landed in the spaceship was not a Thing...it was an alien assimilated by a Thing.Yes, I am aware of that aspect, it was an assimilated thing alien, but for it to spread like a virus, it replicated the form of whatever it took over, it has to have an ultimate purpose for this. If it is just going to change everything into what it assimilates, what reason would this achieve? It would be an entire replicant of itself separated from itself with every other organic lifeform. There is no science behind its intelligence or what it is capable of intellectually. It's purpose is to survive, spread and copy...that is what a virus does. The big difference with the Thing is it defends itself in a more extreme and aggressive manner than a normal virus does.
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Post by Sarge on Oct 12, 2020 18:06:22 GMT
The Thing is one of my favorite horror films, but when I think about The Things need to assimilate organic lifeform by digesting and taking it over, for what ultimate purpose would this achieve for its agenda, whatever it is? Would the new Thing replicates act and treat each other better than humans treat each other, once the entire world has been taken over by it? My pet theory is it allows the aliens to colonize other planets by ingesting locals and adapting to potentially unsuitable environments. Blair begins building a spaceship in the underground tunnels which suggests intelligence and not just a virus.
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