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Post by dougb on May 7, 2017 13:47:05 GMT
You are right but only to a degree. You can't pretend that rover's fans weren't screaming for the Walker's regime to be thrown out and replaced by some foreigners with a lot of dosh. Now that FFP is in place foreign businessmen can't throw huge amounts at clubs anymore and another Chelsea or City is impossible. Rovers fans need to accept that declining crowds create an impossible business model for those in charge and if there aren't enough of them supporting their team through thick and thin then you can't have the big signings you need to be a force in the Championship. Anyone can be a loyal fan in the top flight, it's tougher going to Mansfield on a wet tuesday night.
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Post by THawk on May 7, 2017 15:07:30 GMT
You are right but only to a degree. You can't pretend that rover's fans weren't screaming for the Walker's regime to be thrown out and replaced by some foreigners with a lot of dosh. Now that FFP is in place foreign businessmen can't throw huge amounts at clubs anymore and another Chelsea or City is impossible. Rovers fans need to accept that declining crowds create an impossible business model for those in charge and if there aren't enough of them supporting their team through thick and thin then you can't have the big signings you need to be a force in the Championship. Anyone can be a loyal fan in the top flight, it's tougher going to Mansfield on a wet tuesday night. No, we absolutely most definitely were not. Yes, before Venkys took over, we were very concerned that the Walkers Trust were completely ignoring the legacy and wishes of Jack Walker in the way they were handling the club. The feeling was mutual, as the Walkers Trust wanted to get rid of us as well. However, nobody wanted, and the FA should have never allowed, for an Indian chicken farming company with absolutely no ties whatsoever to football in any way shape or form, to take us over. We were doomed from day one under Venkys, I mean the script wrote itself. The "declining crowds" you speak of is protest against Venkys. The trouble is there was no unity to ensure that all the fans are on the same page, and so half protested, the others did not. And the FFP. The FFP has never touched Manchester City, or Chelsea or anyone like that. Rovers were punished under the FFP. The FFP only targets small clubs, and lets the big ones do whatever they want. Football should not be about money and how much revenue you bring in. That is why the FA have always hated us - because we were always a small club pushing astronomically above our weight, finishing higher than clubs with 3, 4 times our attendance. The FA wanted clubs like us eradicated, and they have successfully achieved that.
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Post by dougb on May 8, 2017 11:07:36 GMT
But Rovers are a "big club" to other smaller clubs. Do you think they agree with the huge parachute payments you got for chasing the dream? Protesting against the Venkey's by non attendance just harms the club further and is not something a true fan would ever consider. The parachute payments are vastly unfair to teams in the Championship who have not reached the promised land and cannot compete with them on wages, squad size etc. so maybe consider what a raw deal they get compared to the money Rovers have been given over the last 4 years.
The below quote from a Rovers forum shows that some maybe see things in a more realistic way.
"You see, i think you're sticking your head into the sand about the real problem, there, Darth. The real problem is that we don't have enough fans, and we don't make enough money.
Yes, they sacked Allardyce. I'd, personally, dispute we had "stability" under Allardyce, and I think the rot had actually already started. I look back to the clamour for the Walker Trust to sell up, and the desperation of our fans to get new owners in. We were already on the way down when Venky's took over.
Now, they made a decision to get rid of BFS; personally I think that's always the right thing to do, but a lot didn't; fair enough. What then happened is that the fans turned away from the club, hurting the club massively. They made their minds up instantaneously that Venky's and Steve Kean were bad, and they've never changed it since. That's the problem.
Add that to the rule changes, preventing owners from being able to invest in the club, and I think the owners no longer really make a difference in actual practise: they can't invest any money to buy those players that you want. The only plus point a new owner would bring is that they might not immediately be hated by the fans. I reckon it's more likely that they will though, especially when they still can't buy any players cause we're still a club in Blackburn with a small fan base competing against clubs with bigger fan bases and a Premier League with ever more money that hikes the cost of even shit players to the max."
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