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Post by paulslaugh on Feb 18, 2023 12:54:40 GMT
So fighting against Tyranny is bad? They are looking for anything they can to reinforce their claim of control over correct cultural narratives or the USA will sink beneath the ocean.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 18, 2023 13:01:54 GMT
You DO know that Antifa is never mentioned in the movie at all, right?
Antifa = Anti-Fascism. Fascism should be something decent people are against.
You want people who are a part of disorderly conduct, property damage and harm to people, look at the Jan 6ers.
Yes, I am aware that it is not mentioned in the movie at all, I am saying that groups like ANTIFA do more harm than good, even if their mission statement might read fine on paper (being against fascism). I don't approve of ANTIFA nor do I approve of the people who got unruly on January 6th, 2021, which has nothing to do with my point about groups like ANTIFA doing more harm than good because of their extremist nature. I don't know why this is so hard for people.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2023 14:17:15 GMT
You DO know that Antifa is never mentioned in the movie at all, right?
Antifa = Anti-Fascism. Fascism should be something decent people are against.
You want people who are a part of disorderly conduct, property damage and harm to people, look at the Jan 6ers.
Yes, I am aware that it is not mentioned in the movie at all, I am saying that groups like ANTIFA do more harm than good, even if their mission statement might read fine on paper (being against fascism). I don't approve of ANTIFA nor do I approve of the people who got unruly on January 6th, 2021, which has nothing to do with my point about groups like ANTIFA doing more harm than good because of their extremist nature. The people saying ANTIFA are bad would have called MLK a dangerous extremist too.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2023 14:17:56 GMT
Phase 4 was better than most of Phases 1 and 2. What? Phases 1 and 2 weren't nearly as good as "fans" remember, Phase 4's heights met theirs and overall has done a good job continuing the Universe.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2023 14:19:04 GMT
You DO know that Antifa is never mentioned in the movie at all, right?
Antifa = Anti-Fascism. Fascism should be something decent people are against.
You want people who are a part of disorderly conduct, property damage and harm to people, look at the Jan 6ers.
Antifa just riots. They do nothing positive for society. They aren't changing laws or policy.
Jan. 6th was a lame ass failed riot. It was a riot, but a dust up. Summer 2020 was worse in every single way. More deaths, injuries, and damage.
Antifa didn't kill anyone in Summer 2020, nor did they try to murder the Senate and the VP or subvert Democracy.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 18, 2023 15:09:26 GMT
Antifa just riots. They do nothing positive for society. They aren't changing laws or policy.
Jan. 6th was a lame ass failed riot. It was a riot, but a dust up. Summer 2020 was worse in every single way. More deaths, injuries, and damage.
Antifa didn't kill anyone in Summer 2020, nor did they try to murder the Senate and the VP or subvert Democracy. 25 people died during those riots. Most were black men btw. 1000s were injured and the damages were somewhere in the neighborhood of $1 and $2 billion.
A police station, federal courthouse, homes and businesses burned. A group of them took over a part of a city and were allowed to get away with that for a month, but yeah. No attempts to overthrow the government at all. You can sit down now.
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Post by Lux on Feb 18, 2023 15:31:08 GMT
Phases 1 and 2 weren't nearly as good as "fans" remember, Phase 4's heights met theirs and overall has done a good job continuing the Universe. You used the word "better" in your original comment. Do you understand the meaning of words or are you trolling? Phase 1 and 2 included pretty much everything from Avengers movies, Winter Soldier and the first Ironman and Thor movies. Phase 4 doesn't even come close or tries to. What were you thinking when you typed that out?
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2023 15:57:52 GMT
Antifa didn't kill anyone in Summer 2020, nor did they try to murder the Senate and the VP or subvert Democracy. 25 people died during those riots. Most were black men btw. 1000s were injured and the damages were somewhere in the neighborhood of $1 and $2 billion.
A police station, federal courthouse, homes and businesses burned. A group of them took over a part of a city and were allowed to get away with that for a month, but yeah. No attempts to overthrow the government at all. You can sit down now.
None by Antifa, they got killed by Looters and Thieves who merely were there. And corrupt cops.
Funny how this got such a reaction but no one seemed to bring up the Ghetto Riots from the 1960s where more damage was done and people died. Those were somehow seen as "understandable".
Yes, this was not a full-on insurrection like Jan 6th was.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2023 15:59:35 GMT
Phases 1 and 2 weren't nearly as good as "fans" remember, Phase 4's heights met theirs and overall has done a good job continuing the Universe. You used the word "better" in your original comment. Do you understand the meaning of words or are you trolling? Phase 1 and 2 included pretty much everything from Avengers movies, Winter Soldier and the first Ironman and Thor movies. Phase 4 doesn't even come close or tries to. What were you thinking when you typed that out? Phase 4 gave us WandaVision, Falcon/Winter Soldier, Loki, Werewolf by Night, Shang Chi, No Way Home, Wakanda Forever off the top of my head.
All of which are on par with Avengers 1, Iron Man 1, Winter Soldier. And better than Iron Man 2, First Avenger, Thors 1 and 2, Ant-Man and AoU.
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Post by Marv on Feb 18, 2023 18:13:33 GMT
I really enjoyed it even if parts could have been better. Visually it was lots of fun, its the most important Ant Man film to the overall MCU, Majors was great, I even dug Modok. I had a good time watching it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 18:33:47 GMT
Kind of funny to see people arguing about politics on an Ant Man thread.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 18, 2023 18:39:13 GMT
25 people died during those riots. Most were black men btw. 1000s were injured and the damages were somewhere in the neighborhood of $1 and $2 billion.
A police station, federal courthouse, homes and businesses burned. A group of them took over a part of a city and were allowed to get away with that for a month, but yeah. No attempts to overthrow the government at all. You can sit down now.
None by Antifa, they got killed by Looters and Thieves who merely were there. And corrupt cops.
Funny how this got such a reaction but no one seemed to bring up the Ghetto Riots from the 1960s where more damage was done and people died. Those were somehow seen as "understandable".
Yes, this was not a full-on insurrection like Jan 6th was.
You are a fucking kook.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2023 20:11:57 GMT
None by Antifa, they got killed by Looters and Thieves who merely were there. And corrupt cops.
Funny how this got such a reaction but no one seemed to bring up the Ghetto Riots from the 1960s where more damage was done and people died. Those were somehow seen as "understandable".
Yes, this was not a full-on insurrection like Jan 6th was.
You are a fucking kook. To use your own language: Quit drinking Faux News' Kool-Aid.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 18, 2023 21:55:12 GMT
Yes, I am aware that it is not mentioned in the movie at all, I am saying that groups like ANTIFA do more harm than good, even if their mission statement might read fine on paper (being against fascism). I don't approve of ANTIFA nor do I approve of the people who got unruly on January 6th, 2021, which has nothing to do with my point about groups like ANTIFA doing more harm than good because of their extremist nature. The people saying ANTIFA are bad would have called MLK a dangerous extremist too. Shock value = not very effective in 2023 I'm afraid to inform you.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 18, 2023 21:57:23 GMT
To use your own language: Quit drinking Faux News' Kool-Aid. You do realize the individual you are arguing with has an anti-Trump avatar, yes?
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2023 23:02:39 GMT
To use your own language: Quit drinking Faux News' Kool-Aid. You do realize the individual you are arguing with has an anti-Trump avatar, yes? His words say otherwise.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2023 23:03:15 GMT
The people saying ANTIFA are bad would have called MLK a dangerous extremist too. Shock value = not very effective in 2023 I'm afraid to inform you. Uh huh, and why doesn't history regard the numerous Ghetto Riots of the 60s which caused more damage and death as worse than the Summer Riot?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 19, 2023 3:51:11 GMT
You do realize the individual you are arguing with has an anti-Trump avatar, yes? His words say otherwise. You do not need to be favor of Waldo's father (Little Rascals reference) to not be in favor of groups like ANTIFA.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 19, 2023 4:02:00 GMT
Shock value = not very effective in 2023 I'm afraid to inform you. Uh huh, and why doesn't history regard the numerous Ghetto Riots of the 60s which caused more damage and death as worse than the Summer Riot? *riots (fixed it for you). Not sure, maybe you can ask on the politics section of the website? My point doesn't change though - it is one thing to be against tyranny, but groups like ANTIFA take it to the extreme: probably why many consider them the "T" word.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 19, 2023 4:22:49 GMT
You do not need to be favor of Waldo's father (Little Rascals reference) to not be in favor of groups like ANTIFA. If it's a choice between them and the Proud Boys, I choose them.
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