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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 22:03:30 GMT
Who in the **** were they fighting in that final battle?! I never saw a single enemy! And a quick Google search of the question reveals no clear answer!
I’m still trying to figure out if this movie was smarter than me or just so dumb that it makes no sense! LOLOLOLOL
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 18, 2020 22:11:01 GMT
I need to know if Robert Pattinson was inverted the whole time or what.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 22:30:02 GMT
I need to know if Robert Pattinson was inverted the whole time or what. The whole movie? No. Or do you mean the whole battle? I think he switched part way through.
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 18, 2020 22:34:50 GMT
I need to know if Robert Pattinson was inverted the whole time or what. The whole movie? No. Or do you mean the whole battle? I think he switched part way through. He said at the end he was recruited by the protagonist in the future (I find it odd he never had a name). But you can't breathe normally in inverted time, so that wouldn't make sense. I guess there's a lot I'm confused about. I still enjoyed it, but didn't connect with it like I did Inception. Inception sends me into an existential crises every time I watch it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 22:38:11 GMT
The whole movie? No. Or do you mean the whole battle? I think he switched part way through. He said at the end he was recruited by the protagonist in the future (I find it odd he never had a name). But you can't breathe normally in inverted time, so that wouldn't make sense. I guess there's a lot I'm confused about. I still enjoyed it, but didn't connect with it like I did Inception. Inception sends me into an existential crises every time I watch it. I guess Protag inverted years into the past to recruit him? Which seems impossible given that you need your own air.
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Post by I am Becky on Dec 19, 2020 0:26:24 GMT
Some of the time travel is inversion and some of it is regular time travel. The thing that makes the movie impossible to put together is that there are multiple timelines and multiple realities all crossing over eachother. I have a theory that in one of those realities Sator actually did achieve his goal and the end scene is the reality where they finally stopped him. Sator Square
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Post by I am Becky on Dec 19, 2020 1:12:38 GMT
The whole movie? No. Or do you mean the whole battle? I think he switched part way through. He said at the end he was recruited by the protagonist in the future (I find it odd he never had a name). But you can't breathe normally in inverted time, so that wouldn't make sense. I guess there's a lot I'm confused about. I still enjoyed it, but didn't connect with it like I did Inception. Inception sends me into an existential crises every time I watch it. There is also the scene where Sator's wife goes back in time in the normal way. The whole boat scene at the end is her back in time. We know this because she is waiting for her past self to leave the boat, so that she can get on the boat in order to stop Sator.
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Post by I am Becky on Dec 19, 2020 1:15:16 GMT
He said at the end he was recruited by the protagonist in the future (I find it odd he never had a name). But you can't breathe normally in inverted time, so that wouldn't make sense. I guess there's a lot I'm confused about. I still enjoyed it, but didn't connect with it like I did Inception. Inception sends me into an existential crises every time I watch it. I guess Protag inverted years into the past to recruit him? Which seems impossible given that you need your own air. No, they meet in the future. Robert Pattinson says that he has known the Protagonist for years, but from the Protagonist's POV they only met recently.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 2:21:03 GMT
He said at the end he was recruited by the protagonist in the future (I find it odd he never had a name). But you can't breathe normally in inverted time, so that wouldn't make sense. I guess there's a lot I'm confused about. I still enjoyed it, but didn't connect with it like I did Inception. Inception sends me into an existential crises every time I watch it. There is also the scene where Sator's wife goes back in time in the normal way. The whole boat scene at the end is her back in time. We know this because she is waiting for her past self to leave the boat, so that she can get on the boat in order to stop Sator. But WHO are they shooting at in the climax?!
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Post by I am Becky on Dec 19, 2020 2:23:47 GMT
There is also the scene where Sator's wife goes back in time in the normal way. The whole boat scene at the end is her back in time. We know this because she is waiting for her past self to leave the boat, so that she can get on the boat in order to stop Sator. But WHO are they shooting at in the climax?! That is an unanswerable question and purposefully so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 2:24:30 GMT
But WHO are they shooting at in the climax?! That is an unanswerable question and purposefully so. What? Why would that be unanswerable? The Protagonist obviously knows. Why can’t we?
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Post by I am Becky on Dec 19, 2020 2:27:59 GMT
That is an unanswerable question and purposefully so. What? Why would that be unanswerable? The Protagonist obviously knows. Why can’t we? I see the movie as an unanswerable riddle. It only gives us pieces of information and the rest is speculation. The protagonist also doesn't know. He only knows some stuff in some of the timelines. The movie is essentially about the nature of reality. The unanswerable question, hence the religious stuff in the movie.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 2:29:19 GMT
What? Why would that be unanswerable? The Protagonist obviously knows. Why can’t we? I see the movie as an unanswerable riddle. It only gives us pieces of information and the rest is speculation. The protagonist also doesn't know, he only knows some stuff in some of the timelines. The movie is essentially about the nature of reality. The unanswerable question, hence the religious stuff in the movie. But he’s shooting at something. What is he shooting at?! If that was deliberately left ambiguous than I’m sorry but that is lazy AF.
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Post by I am Becky on Dec 19, 2020 2:33:10 GMT
I see the movie as an unanswerable riddle. It only gives us pieces of information and the rest is speculation. The protagonist also doesn't know, he only knows some stuff in some of the timelines. The movie is essentially about the nature of reality. The unanswerable question, hence the religious stuff in the movie. But he’s shooting at something. What is he shooting at?! If that was deliberately left ambiguous than I’m sorry but that is lazy AF. It was left ambiguous. You see it as lazy, I see it is matching the themes of the movie. I also have a theory that the movie becomes more disordered as it goes on purposely. The entropy of the movie is increasing as it goes on.
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 19, 2020 2:40:01 GMT
He said at the end he was recruited by the protagonist in the future (I find it odd he never had a name). But you can't breathe normally in inverted time, so that wouldn't make sense. I guess there's a lot I'm confused about. I still enjoyed it, but didn't connect with it like I did Inception. Inception sends me into an existential crises every time I watch it. There is also the scene where Sator's wife goes back in time in the normal way. The whole boat scene at the end is her back in time. We know this because she is waiting for her past self to leave the boat, so that she can get on the boat in order to stop Sator. Okay, I'm going to have to watch it again and keep in mind everything you've said in this thread. Maybe I can make more sense of it. |
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Post by I am Becky on Dec 19, 2020 2:42:16 GMT
There is also the scene where Sator's wife goes back in time in the normal way. The whole boat scene at the end is her back in time. We know this because she is waiting for her past self to leave the boat, so that she can get on the boat in order to stop Sator. Okay, I'm going to have to watch it again and keep in mind everything you've said in this thread. Maybe I can make more sense of it. One could see this as a cop out by Nolan, but there is also the line in the movie "don't try to understand it...feel it." That is a very important line of dialogue imo.
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 19, 2020 2:44:51 GMT
Okay, I'm going to have to watch it again and keep in mind everything you've said in this thread. Maybe I can make more sense of it. One could see this as a cop out by Nolan, but there is also the line in the movie "don't try to understand it...feel it." That is a very important line of dialogue imo. Maybe. I do think he could have explained inversion better. With Interstellar and Inception I understood what I was watching regarding time manipulation. |
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Post by I am Becky on Dec 19, 2020 2:47:51 GMT
One could see this as a cop out by Nolan, but there is also the line in the movie "don't try to understand it...feel it." That is a very important line of dialogue imo. Maybe. I do think he could have explained inversion better. With Interstellar and Inception I understood what I was watching regarding time manipulation. I do agree with that. There are certainly aspects of the movie that I think could have been explained better. What I admire greatly about the movie is the originality of it.
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 19, 2020 2:59:04 GMT
Maybe. I do think he could have explained inversion better. With Interstellar and Inception I understood what I was watching regarding time manipulation. I do agree with that. There are certainly aspects of the movie that I think could have been explained better. What I admire greatly about the movie is the originality of it. The action and cinematography are top notch. I'm also excited to follow John David Washington's career from here. I think he's going to do awesome things. |
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Post by I am Becky on Dec 19, 2020 3:04:37 GMT
I do agree with that. There are certainly aspects of the movie that I think could have been explained better. What I admire greatly about the movie is the originality of it. The action and cinematography are top notch. I'm also excited to follow John David Washington's career from here. I think he's going to do awesome things. I actually think the cinematography is inconsistent, but much of it is still very impressive. The concept is why I like the movie as much as I do.
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