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Post by Marv on Dec 21, 2020 12:49:29 GMT
I don’t think so. It’s so easy to watch. There’s almost nothing slowing the story down the entire time. If it does have a flaw I could see it being the Deus Ex TRex ending. True, but as nearly perfect as this film is, the ending is kind of awesome. It’s better than some convoluted ending that weighs down the dramatic pacing. It’s absolutely a moment the audience cheers for.
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Post by janntosh on Dec 21, 2020 15:15:12 GMT
Pretend you’ve never seen JP before. The buildup and suspense is very well done. Obviously though once you’ve seen it a hundred times the effect won’t be there as much
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Post by Ransom on Dec 21, 2020 15:18:10 GMT
I don’t think so. It’s so easy to watch. There’s almost nothing slowing the story down the entire time. If it does have a flaw I could see it being the Deus Ex TRex ending. Without the Deus Ex T Rex moment you would have had a dead bunch of likeable characters.
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Post by Marv on Dec 21, 2020 15:24:55 GMT
I don’t think so. It’s so easy to watch. There’s almost nothing slowing the story down the entire time. If it does have a flaw I could see it being the Deus Ex TRex ending. Without the Deus Ex T Rex moment you would have had a dead bunch of likeable characters. If we don’t change anything else about the script...sure. But that’s kind of the point. In order for the characters to survive at that point they literally needed a bigger stronger dinosaur to come out of nowhere and eliminate the threat. The arrival of the T Rex is fairly unjustified and a total surprise to everyone. I don’t really mind it but I won’t pretend it’s smart writing either.
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 21, 2020 15:32:59 GMT
Without the Deus Ex T Rex moment you would have had a dead bunch of likeable characters. If we don’t change anything else about the script...sure. But that’s kind of the point. In order for the characters to survive at that point they literally needed a bigger stronger dinosaur to come out of nowhere and eliminate the threat. The arrival of the T Rex is fairly unjustified and a total surprise to everyone. I don’t really mind it but I won’t pretend it’s smart writing either. The original ending of the movie didn't have the T-Rex. Basically Alan Grant manages to defeat the raptors by crashing the dinosaur skeletons on top of them. However, after seeing how T-Rex looked on camera, he decided that the audience would not forgive him if he didn't show up again. I guess he used the same logic of Jaws. The writer Peter Benchley thought that the ending with the shark exploding was too unrealistic but Spielberg argued that if the audience is already enjoying the film, they won't care about the shark exploding.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 21, 2020 16:22:39 GMT
Without the Deus Ex T Rex moment you would have had a dead bunch of likeable characters. If we don’t change anything else about the script...sure. But that’s kind of the point. In order for the characters to survive at that point they literally needed a bigger stronger dinosaur to come out of nowhere and eliminate the threat. The arrival of the T Rex is fairly unjustified and a total surprise to everyone. I don’t really mind it but I won’t pretend it’s smart writing either. So how would you have written that scene then?
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Post by Marv on Dec 21, 2020 16:27:12 GMT
If we don’t change anything else about the script...sure. But that’s kind of the point. In order for the characters to survive at that point they literally needed a bigger stronger dinosaur to come out of nowhere and eliminate the threat. The arrival of the T Rex is fairly unjustified and a total surprise to everyone. I don’t really mind it but I won’t pretend it’s smart writing either. So how would you have written that scene then? I have no idea. Hadn’t really thought about it for more than 15 minutes today.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Dec 21, 2020 16:28:01 GMT
It is not overrated in any sense of the word, it was Spielberg's last truly great adventure-blockbuster before he entered the "adult" phase of his career.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 21, 2020 16:42:05 GMT
So how would you have written that scene then? I have no idea. Hadn’t really thought about it for more than 15 minutes today. There wasn't a deadline to that question.
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Post by Marv on Dec 21, 2020 17:19:13 GMT
I have no idea. Hadn’t really thought about it for more than 15 minutes today. There wasn't a deadline to that question. So you would’ve preferred me ignore the question until I rewrote the Jurassic Park script?
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Post by Ransom on Dec 21, 2020 17:29:08 GMT
There wasn't a deadline to that question. So you would’ve preferred me ignore the question until I rewrote the Jurassic Park script? If it's too stressful for you don't worry about it Jesus. You seemed to think that a group of humans could fight off prehistoric predators without the help however cliche it may be of a larger animal and I asked what you would've suggested. I'm not asking you a quantum physics question.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 21, 2020 17:33:59 GMT
There wasn't a deadline to that question. So you would’ve preferred me ignore the question until I rewrote the Jurassic Park script? I agree btw. It is an awesome moment regardless of how the T-Rex got into the building. The shot is iconic and the T-Rex, the first major threat in the movie, is the one who ends up saving them in the end by happenstance. .
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Post by Marv on Dec 21, 2020 17:39:10 GMT
So you would’ve preferred me ignore the question until I rewrote the Jurassic Park script? If it's too stressful for you don't worry about it Jesus. You seemed to think that a group of humans could fight off prehistoric predators without the help however cliche it may be of a larger animal and I asked what you would've suggested. I'm not asking you a quantum physics question. Are you always this defensive over an insignificant differing of opinions?
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Post by Ransom on Dec 21, 2020 17:40:37 GMT
If it's too stressful for you don't worry about it Jesus. You seemed to think that a group of humans could fight off prehistoric predators without the help however cliche it may be of a larger animal and I asked what you would've suggested. I'm not asking you a quantum physics question. Are you always this defensive over an insignificant differing of opinions? How is me telling you not to stress about a question me being defensive?
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Post by Marv on Dec 21, 2020 17:43:08 GMT
So you would’ve preferred me ignore the question until I rewrote the Jurassic Park script? I agree btw. It is an awesome moment regardless of how the T-Rex got into the building. The shot is iconic and the T-Rex, the first major threat in the movie, is the one who ends up saving them in the end by happenstance. . Oh yea it’s a great shot...and definitely falls under that same ‘if they’re enjoying the movie they won’t mind it’ vibe. Like I said I’m fine with it. It has never hurt my enjoyment of the film.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 21, 2020 20:11:53 GMT
It is not overrated in any sense of the word, it was Spielberg's last truly great adventure-blockbuster before he entered the "adult" phase of his career. Unless he finally makes that Blackhawk movie. Remember all the buzz about that supposedly happening?
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Dec 21, 2020 20:51:25 GMT
No. It was and remains an amazingly good story with wonderful actors and effects. Very enjoyable, compelling and it never lags.
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Dec 21, 2020 21:19:24 GMT
Brilliant special effects and animatronics aside, is Jurassic Park really that good? I loved it as a kid. But on reflection the story isn't anything too gripping. The characters are very bland except the odd few moments with Jeff Goldblum. No, not in the slightest. Not for the first time Spielbeard raised the bar for crowd pleasing thrills.
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Post by phantomparticle on Dec 22, 2020 1:24:41 GMT
There is no faulting the incredible fx, but the story lacks real tension because, apart from the lawyer and the guy stealing the dino dna, both of whom you want to see munched, you know none of the major characters are going to be killed.
Biggest gripe: those insufferable rug rats that inhabit Spielberg's movies, who appear quite bright at the onset only to turn into morons at the wrong moment. It's not smart to shine a flashlight in a T-Rex's eyes. And it's amazing how quickly inept the boy becomes when he is required to get over an electrified fence when before and after that he functions like a gazelle. The tykes are not the only ones infected with sudden stupidity. You would think someone intelligent enough to become a paleontologist would be intelligent enough to move to the side when a jeep in a tree is sliding down on them instead of trying to outrace it.
Favorite scene in the movie: the first encounter with Apatosaurus moving past them with a stately grace, abetted by John Williams's excellent score. The film never again quite rises to the wonder and awe inspiring majesty of that moment.
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Post by Times Up on Dec 22, 2020 14:20:10 GMT
It's no Jaws or Star Wars or Lord of the Rings, but it was a highly memorable film for those who saw it back then. Definitely holds up today. I caught it in its 3D run years ago too that had audiences screaming in parts. Sure, once you read the book you realize it could have been better, but its a great thrill ride.
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