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Post by janntosh on Dec 25, 2020 17:33:41 GMT
good example of being weird for the sake of weird. The Bruce/Selina stuff is really the only stuff that really works. Burton needed the first films producers back to keep him in check
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Post by kolchak92 on Dec 25, 2020 17:36:54 GMT
good example of being weird for the sake of weird. The Bruce/Selina stuff is really the only stuff that really works. Burton needed the first films producers back to keep him in check Wasn't it produced by the exact same people? Benjamin Melniker and Michael E. Uslan.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 25, 2020 18:04:29 GMT
I like Batman '89 more but I do appreciate Returns' weirdness.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 25, 2020 21:59:32 GMT
Truly the era of championing filmmakers having their visions stifled by the bean counters behind the scenes in the name of delivering safe products. Thanks, Feige.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Dec 26, 2020 1:25:55 GMT
Batman Returns is batshit insane. I was nearly 7 when I first saw in 1992. Looking back, this definitely not a movie for the younglings. It’s depressing, violent, often ugly, and a little dumb at times. I don’t hate it but will always prefer the 1989 film.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Dec 26, 2020 3:48:05 GMT
10/10 A favorite of mine. I love the dark tone of it.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Dec 26, 2020 7:24:40 GMT
It's tons more gothic and more fantastical and stylish than the '89 movie. A weirder movie certainly, but I've always favoured it a tad more than its predecessor.
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Post by onethreetwo on Dec 26, 2020 7:59:27 GMT
The style is through the roof. It's Burton at his most Burtonest.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 26, 2020 11:06:55 GMT
 About it not being great |
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Post by vegalyra on Dec 26, 2020 13:06:27 GMT
I can appreciate the vision but man the Penguin just grosses me out. Haha. I love the film mainly because of Keaton but the 89 film is my favorite overall.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 26, 2020 13:42:57 GMT
Truly the era of championing filmmakers having their visions stifled by the bean counters behind the scenes in the name of delivering safe products. Thanks, Feige. Yeah not all directors are a safe pair of hands or know what the fuck they're doing I don't actually mind the stifling in some cases. |
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Post by janntosh on Dec 26, 2020 14:01:17 GMT
good example of being weird for the sake of weird. The Bruce/Selina stuff is really the only stuff that really works. Burton needed the first films producers back to keep him in check Wasn't it produced by the exact same people? Benjamin Melniker and Michael E. Uslan. The first film was produced by Jon Peters and Peter Guber who were absent from the sequel and were pretty hands on with the first movie from what I’ve read |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 26, 2020 20:27:59 GMT
Truly the era of championing filmmakers having their visions stifled by the bean counters behind the scenes in the name of delivering safe products. Thanks, Feige. Yeah not all directors are a safe pair of hands or know what the fuck they're doing I don't actually mind the stifling in some cases. Hopefully one day we can just have computers direct movies. |
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Post by Marv on Dec 27, 2020 13:09:24 GMT
I always liked it. The Penguin can be a little grotesque at times, which I’m not a big fan of, but everything else about it is enjoyable.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 27, 2020 13:15:07 GMT
I always liked it. The Penguin can be a little grotesque at times, which I’m not a big fan of, but everything else about it is enjoyable. Why weren't you a fan of it? And what would you have preferred? Penguin was never a normal human being in the comics either. |
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Post by Marv on Dec 27, 2020 13:19:13 GMT
I always liked it. The Penguin can be a little grotesque at times, which I’m not a big fan of, but everything else about it is enjoyable. Why weren't you a fan of it? And what would you have preferred? Penguin was never a normal human being in the comics either. A few scenes that stick out to me...eating the raw fish in a dirty onesie and him emerging from the sewer bleeding black blood from his mouth at the end. Those scenes just always make me cringe in a disgusted way. I prefer his versions in other media where he’s basically a fancy if sadistic gentleman gangster. I still didn’t mind him overall...just coulda done without some of the blech. |
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Post by Jason143 on Dec 27, 2020 14:36:04 GMT
I love BR. It evokes a feeling that I cant describe which isnt present in any other superhero movie Ive seen.
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