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Post by Skaathar on Dec 27, 2020 19:48:02 GMT
To date, I don't think the DCEU has had even a single truly well-done villain. The best was probably Zod, but he still seems mediocre when compared to the great cbm villains like Joker, Loki, Thanos, etc.
The rest usually range from passable (Ocean Master) to completely cringeworthy (Enchantress).
The villains in WW84 seem to have followed the same trend.
When will they get over this trend and how will they do it?
P.S. - I still think Faora had the best potential and could have been a great villain had she been made the main villain in MoS instead of Zod.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 27, 2020 20:16:44 GMT
Faora was good very good but Zod should still remain the main villain. Faora was the muscle.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 27, 2020 20:30:53 GMT
It seems like we get these kinds of topics every time one of these movies gets released.
Anyway, I think Dr. Sivana is a pretty good villain, and Black Mask is the best part of Birds of Prey.
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Post by DarkManX on Dec 27, 2020 23:24:28 GMT
Maxwell Lord had potential. I think if they tossed out Cheetah and gave him more backstory he could have been great.
DC doesn't have a lot of overly interesting villains to pick from. Batman and the Flash are really the only ones who have a big recognizable rogues gallery and most of the Flash's villains are bank robbers or they have the same powers he does.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 28, 2020 1:33:00 GMT
I think Zod and Ocean Master were genuinely good;special mention to Faora and Black Mask. Ares and Sivana were serviceable but I think in the case of Ares, it'd been better if Danny Huston was the key villain after all. I don't hate Jared Leto's Joker as much as others seem to. The only ones I genuinely didn't care for at all were Enchantress and Steppenwolf.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 28, 2020 2:30:21 GMT
Maxwell Lord had potential. I think if they tossed out Cheetah and gave him more backstory he could have been great. DC doesn't have a lot of overly interesting villains to pick from. Batman and the Flash are really the only ones who have a big recognizable rogues gallery and most of the Flash's villains are bank robbers or they have the same powers he does. Green Lantern and Superman have fantastic villains. |
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 28, 2020 3:21:58 GMT
Maxwell Lord had potential. I think if they tossed out Cheetah and gave him more backstory he could have been great. DC doesn't have a lot of overly interesting villains to pick from. Batman and the Flash are really the only ones who have a big recognizable rogues gallery and most of the Flash's villains are bank robbers or they have the same powers he does. I've always found Flash's villains a bit too campy and don't translate well to modern day cinematics. I'd much prefer Superman's rogue gallery... if they ever get the guts to explore it further than Luthor and other kryptonian offshoots. |
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Post by politicidal on Dec 28, 2020 15:49:15 GMT
Maxwell Lord had potential. I think if they tossed out Cheetah and gave him more backstory he could have been great. DC doesn't have a lot of overly interesting villains to pick from. Batman and the Flash are really the only ones who have a big recognizable rogues gallery and most of the Flash's villains are bank robbers or they have the same powers he does. Green Lantern and Superman have fantastic villains. Indeed, I’m sick of seeing Zod or Lex Luthor. Give me Brainiac or Parasite or Mongul or Intergang or Lobo. Hell, Toyman would be a pleasant change of pace. |
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Post by DarkManX on Dec 28, 2020 16:41:46 GMT
Maxwell Lord had potential. I think if they tossed out Cheetah and gave him more backstory he could have been great. DC doesn't have a lot of overly interesting villains to pick from. Batman and the Flash are really the only ones who have a big recognizable rogues gallery and most of the Flash's villains are bank robbers or they have the same powers he does. Green Lantern and Superman have fantastic villains. Yeah but not many and some would require setup. Also, Green Lantern was left out of Justice League and still needs his own DCEU film.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 28, 2020 17:42:23 GMT
Can't complain when we had Black Manta with the helmet.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 15, 2021 1:43:25 GMT
Green Lantern and Superman have fantastic villains. Yeah but not many and some would require setup. Also, Green Lantern was left out of Justice League and still needs his own DCEU film. Anson Mount wants to play Green Lantern in a darker movie than the RR one. He'd actually probably do fine as Hal Jordan but methinks he's too old now.
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