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Post by Shays rebelling on Jan 1, 2021 16:46:51 GMT
Just sayin....
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 1, 2021 16:49:46 GMT
Pretty much just how Michael Jordan made Scottie Pippen
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Post by bluerisk on Jan 1, 2021 17:07:02 GMT
Belichick is the Shittiola of American football.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 1, 2021 17:17:10 GMT
I don't take pleasure in other's failures/demise; however he appears to be such a miserable human being on the surface - I've enjoyed witnessing their downfall - and have enjoyed watching Brady and Bucs march towards the playoffs
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Post by Shays rebelling on Jan 1, 2021 17:39:52 GMT
I don't take pleasure in other's failures/demise; however he appears to be such a miserable human being on the surface - I've enjoyed witnessing their downfall - and have enjoyed watching Brady and Bucs march towards the playoffs I feel a little bad for Cam. He was never the same after his rotator cuff surgery...
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 1, 2021 17:45:05 GMT
I don't take pleasure in other's failures/demise; however he appears to be such a miserable human being on the surface - I've enjoyed witnessing their downfall - and have enjoyed watching Brady and Bucs march towards the playoffs I feel a little bad for Cam. He was never the same after his rotator cuff surgery... I wonder if he gets another chance with another team if he'll still wear the Pimp Clothes with all the bling
At this point the way things have gone I'd probably roll into those post gamer press conferences with a plain navy blue t-shirt and be less excessive,extravagant and flashy
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Post by Shays rebelling on Jan 1, 2021 17:47:36 GMT
I feel a little bad for Cam. He was never the same after his rotator cuff surgery... I wonder if he gets another chance with another team if he'll still wear the Pimp Clothes with all the bling
At this point the way things have gone I'd probably roll into those post gamer press conferences with a plain navy blue t-shirt and be as less excessive,extravagant and flashy
There are so many teams needing decent QBs that I’m sure another team will give him a chance, but his days of a big contract are over....
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 1, 2021 18:06:01 GMT
I feel a little bad for Cam. He was never the same after his rotator cuff surgery... I wonder if he gets another chance with another team if he'll still wear the Pimp Clothes with all the bling
At this point the way things have gone I'd probably roll into those post gamer press conferences with a plain navy blue t-shirt and be as less excessive,extravagant and flashy
What about Johnny Manziel? He's earned the right to be a douche? |
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Post by Shays rebelling on Jan 1, 2021 18:24:59 GMT
I wonder if he gets another chance with another team if he'll still wear the Pimp Clothes with all the bling
At this point the way things have gone I'd probably roll into those post gamer press conferences with a plain navy blue t-shirt and be as less excessive,extravagant and flashy
What about Johnny Manziel? He's earned the right to be a douche? Kevin Sumlin sure needs to thank him...
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 1, 2021 18:28:13 GMT
I wonder if he gets another chance with another team if he'll still wear the Pimp Clothes with all the bling
At this point the way things have gone I'd probably roll into those post gamer press conferences with a plain navy blue t-shirt and be as less excessive,extravagant and flashy
What about Johnny Manziel? He's earned the right to be a douche? I'll take Johnny Douchiness over Belichicks Smugness
I'm not quite certain I'd label Johnny a Doucher either - I'd label him misunderstood
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Post by bluerisk on Jan 1, 2021 18:30:25 GMT
I don't take pleasure in other's failures/demise; however he appears to be such a miserable human being on the surface - I've enjoyed witnessing their downfall - and have enjoyed watching Brady and Bucs march towards the playoffs I feel a little bad for Cam. He was never the same after his rotator cuff surgery... For Cam, Julian and the rest of the team. As Pats fan I see these defeats with a laughing, and with a crying eye. Nonetheless, I would give him one another season to prove himself. And if only to take away the COVID-19 excuse. But this is more than he granted the Gronk or A. Brown who have both joined Tom's "The Bill Belichick troll tour".
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Jan 1, 2021 18:33:42 GMT
Oh for fuck’s sake. This shit again? 🙄
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 1, 2021 18:43:37 GMT
Are Belichick's Patriots the "luckiest" dynasty in sports history? You can argue that Brady was undervalued in the 2000 Draft. Brady looked good but Big 10 QB's sucked in the NFL, he couldn't win the Michigan job outright, blah blah blah. But no one ever thought him to be a 1st round QB, let alone arguably Mr. GOAT. Then you have the eternal question, did Brady make Belichick or did Belichick make Brady? Brady might have been a quality QB on another team. But Billy Boy's record sans TB is there for all to see. But a sub .500 coach pulled the luckiest draft pick in history and history was made.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 1, 2021 18:56:38 GMT
What about Johnny Manziel? He's earned the right to be a douche? I'll take Johnny Douchiness over Belichicks Smugness
I'm not quite certain I'd label Johnny a Doucher either - I'd label him misunderstood
But you were talking about Cam dressing like an asshole and how he can't get away with it because he's not winning. Manziel failed out of the league immediately by being an asshole and a douche. How is that ok when not backed up by any semblance of success at all then? |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 1, 2021 19:05:45 GMT
I'll take Johnny Douchiness over Belichicks Smugness
I'm not quite certain I'd label Johnny a Doucher either - I'd label him misunderstood
But you were talking about Cam dressing like an asshole and how he can't get away with it because he's not winning. Manziel failed out of the league immediately by being an asshole and a douche. How is that ok when not backed up by any semblance of success at all then? I don't recall Johnny dressing like MC Hammer begging for attention
In fact - I don't ever recall Johnny being smug/excessive with the NFL media
Johnny may have had his partying issues with drugs/alcohol which led to some poor behavior and choices in life - but I can't label Johnny a doucher who begged for the media's attention by trying too hard - which is what Cam does - tries too hard when the cameras are on
The media followed Johnny - Cam seems to beg for the media's attention
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 1, 2021 20:47:06 GMT
But you were talking about Cam dressing like an asshole and how he can't get away with it because he's not winning. Manziel failed out of the league immediately by being an asshole and a douche. How is that ok when not backed up by any semblance of success at all then? I don't recall Johnny dressing like MC Hammer begging for attention
In fact - I don't ever recall Johnny being smug/excessive with the NFL media
Johnny may have had his partying issues with drugs/alcohol which led to some poor behavior and choices in life - but I can't label Johnny a doucher who begged for the media's attention by trying too hard - which is what Cam does - tries too hard when the cameras are on
The media followed Johnny - Cam seems to beg for the media's attention
I don't see anyone following him other than you anymore |
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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 1, 2021 21:27:09 GMT
Bill
30-34 in Cleveland (hired after 3-13 season, and got them to 6, 7, 7, and 11 wins before a 5-11 final season)
5-11 with an 0-4 start in NE in 2000
0-2 in 2001 with Bledsoe/Brady in Game 2 (Bledsoe credited with the loss)
10-5 in 2008 (Brady credited with the win in Game 1, though Cassel played most of it)
3-1 in 2016 with Garoppolo and Brisett when Brady got hurt again.
6-9 this year with 8 opt outs and basically no QB.
I get 54-62.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2021 13:12:30 GMT
Are we saying that all the other coaches who have called Belichick the best evah are unable to isolate the Tom Brady factor in their evaluation of what Belichick has accomplished? If he was simply riding TB’s coat-tails all this time, you’d think they, of all people, would be able to recognize it.
Even the great Belichick needs some talent on the field to make a team go. This year, he has been working with virtually nothing.
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Post by petrolino on Jan 2, 2021 13:19:01 GMT
He's won 6 Super Bowls. He's doing fine.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 2, 2021 14:52:46 GMT
Are we saying that all the other coaches who have called Belichick the best evah are unable to isolate the Tom Brady factor in their evaluation of what Belichick has accomplished? If he was simply riding TB’s coat-tails all this time, you’d think they, of all people, would be able to recognize it. Even the great Belichick needs some talent on the field to make a team go. This year, he has been working with virtually nothing. Belichick has had plenty of talent in years where his record was terrible, including his first year in New England. In fact I'd argue that 2000 Patriots team was loaded, and Belichick went 5-11. They went to Super Bowl 46 with statistically the worst defense in the Super Bowl era.
Hell, this year has been a disaster on all fronts, and they were 12-4 last year with Brady. They were a top ten scoring offense last year, look it up. Brady threw for more yards than his 2010 MVP season with these bums. Yet the local press kept blaming the offense for losses, even the regular season finale where the Pats scored 24 points, including a go ahead TD with under four minutes to play. Yet Belichick's defense couldn't stop a 4-11 team from marching down the field and scoring a TD to knock the Pats out of a first round bye. Brady maximized the potential of the shit team Belichick gave him last year, this year BB has to lie in the bed he made alone.
5 straight division titles from 2003-2007 with Brady; 2008 - No Brady, no playoffs
11 straight division titles from 2009 to 2019; 2020 - No Brady, no playoffs
Belichick has a sub .500 record in New England alone without Tom Brady, never mind the 36-44 disaster in Cleveland.
So to answer your initial question, it's clear the pundits, coaches and various football peers are able to tune out the Brady factor just as you are now. Take comfort in knowing you aren't alone.
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