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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 31, 2021 10:28:15 GMT
...after they went all-in on Trump? I truly feel like anyone who doesn't see the hypocrisy of those "good Christians" is either blind, stupid, or both.
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Post by mystery on Jan 31, 2021 13:41:22 GMT
I've heard Evangelicals say that in the Bible, God used very flawed people to carry out his will, including people like King David, who committed adultery and got a man killed so he could marry his widow. They say Trump is not their pastor, and as long as they agreed with his policies, then they would continue support him. Most Evangelicals today aren't exactly pure as the driven snow themselves.
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Post by The Lost One on Jan 31, 2021 18:11:20 GMT
The Evangelical vote going to an awful person is hardly a new phenomenon
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Post by permutojoe on Jan 31, 2021 18:30:00 GMT
Nobody does take them seriously, and they could care less. The problem is there's a shit ton of them and they are a huge voting block and that gives them a lot of political power.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 31, 2021 22:24:13 GMT
On topic:
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jan 31, 2021 22:33:40 GMT
Well their God Emperor Trump supposedly wants to start a new political party (Patriot Party), which I think is great it will split the GOP between the neocons/corporate stooges and the crazy Qanons/pseudo populists and pretty much ensure destruction of the party.
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Post by permutojoe on Jan 31, 2021 22:41:36 GMT
Nobody does take them seriously, and they could care less. The problem is there's a shit ton of them and they are a huge voting block and that gives them a lot of political power. They don’t have a religious faith, rather White Evangelicalism is a political ideology in pious, moral superiority drag based on a heap of lies. It seems to me the evangelical pastors are the ones who put out the belief system that is a mishmash of religion and politics, and the congregation eats it up. The churches then get tax breaks that they shouldn't get. Maybe some of the pastors are getting special kickbacks in some form as well, and everyone is happy. Except for the rest of us who want a better more just society that is.
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Post by The Lost One on Jan 31, 2021 23:22:12 GMT
Well their God Emperor Trump supposedly wants to start a new political party (Patriot Party), which I think is great it will split the GOP between the neocons/corporate stooges and the crazy Qanons/pseudo populists and pretty much ensure destruction of the party. Not necessarily - if you look at what happened in the UK, when the Conservative vote was at risk of splitting due to the rise of first UKIP and then the Brexit Party, the Conservatives simply became more Eurosceptic. Result was they remained the biggest party while both UKIP and the Brexit Party lack a single seat in the Commons. So the Patriot Party could push the Republicans into being more nationalist without ultimately weakening their support. |
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Post by mikef6 on Feb 1, 2021 16:37:38 GMT
It seems to me the evangelical pastors are the ones who put out the belief system that is a mishmash of religion and politics, and the congregation eats it up. The churches then get tax breaks that they shouldn't get. Maybe some of the pastors are getting special kickbacks in some form as well, and everyone is happy. Except for the rest of us who want a better more just society that is. There was a NC politician named Coy C. Privette. He was elected to the NC House several times. He was also a pastor to a popular Southern Baptist Church in Kannapolis, NC. Vassaggo probably knows whom I talking about. In the 1960s, my John Bircher, segregationist daddy was good friends with him and big political influence...even a mentor...as despite his working class background, Daddy was very well read in conservative and right wing literature. He could read at a graduate school level, though he never intelligently improved himself beyond his fear of the black man and desire to see a fully Protestant America. The preacher even delivered my father’s eulogy though we did not belong to his church. This was in the early stages of the Fundamentalist Political Great Awakening of the Moral Majority. In 2007, Privette was charged with six counts of aiding and abetting prostitution.[3][4] Privette eventually resigned as president of North Carolina's Christian Action League and pleaded guilty to the charges.[5] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coy_Privette That is "the old old story" that Southern Baptists sing about. (My parents where half-hearted SBCers but I went all-in in high school and early undergrad years. Living away from home and immersing myself in fundie religion turned me around. That was many decades ago.)
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 1, 2021 20:21:23 GMT
There was a NC politician named Coy C. Privette. He was elected to the NC House several times. He was also a pastor to a popular Southern Baptist Church in Kannapolis, NC. Vassaggo probably knows whom I talking about. In the 1960s, my John Bircher, segregationist daddy was good friends with him and big political influence...even a mentor...as despite his working class background, Daddy was very well read in conservative and right wing literature. He could read at a graduate school level, though he never intelligently improved himself beyond his fear of the black man and desire to see a fully Protestant America. The preacher even delivered my father’s eulogy though we did not belong to his church. This was in the early stages of the Fundamentalist Political Great Awakening of the Moral Majority. In 2007, Privette was charged with six counts of aiding and abetting prostitution.[3][4] Privette eventually resigned as president of North Carolina's Christian Action League and pleaded guilty to the charges.[5] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coy_Privette That is "the old old story" that Southern Baptists sing about. (My parents where half-hearted SBCers but I went all-in in high school and early undergrad years. Living away from home and immersing myself in fundie religion turned me around. That was many decades ago.) My parents were full-hearted SBCers, and I was brain-washed from birth. In my teen years, I started to spot inconsistent Bible verses, and when I asked about that, I was diverted, not given a straight answer, or shamed for 'doubting'. When I went to college and met people of different religions, and studied the art history of many cultures, I made a temporary switch to Lutheran (they were more dignified, had a beautiful church and a pipe organ), but after college, I went 'agnostic', though I really didn't have that word to use. I liked Buddhism as a world view, a philosophy, but it wasn't the same as a religion. Eastern religions were so different from the Christian religion and I found their art, and the story behind it, interesting. When, at age 35, I was diagnosed with a cancer that was genetically amplified in my female relatives, most of whom had died when I was a kid, I decided to give advances in medical science a try. I am 67 now, and still in remission. Science, not prayers, had extended my life. When that sunk in, my agnosticism gained a lean towards atheism, and I've never gone back. Looking back, I think I might have been 'happier' as a believer, but I found reality preferable. There is a quote... "The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than a drunken man is happier than a sober one." I can't remember who said that. I would rather be fact-based rather than faith-based.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Feb 7, 2021 17:35:05 GMT
Many of these Evangelical Prophets (or should I say Profits) adamantly predicted Trump would be re-elected. I wonder if any of the followers said to themselves, "Pat Robertson assured me that Trump was going to win the election. There is no need for me to vote." And would enough lazy people be enough to have swayed the election.
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