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Post by Harmless elf on Feb 21, 2021 3:09:25 GMT
a lot of the times positivity means being dishonest it means not saying how you truly feel about things because you don't want to appear negative. So the question is, is not being honest a positive trait? I think being honest is actually more positive. also I've come across people who say they're positive, but they don't like to hear other people's opinions because they think of it as "negative" I'm sorry that doesn't sound very friendly to me which also isn't positive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 7:01:49 GMT
I thought it meant you have to quarantine for 2 weeks?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 13:47:20 GMT
A lot of people say they want you to be honest but in reality they only want you to agree with their feelings.
You need to know the people you're dealing with and what's important to you. What's your reality isn't necessarily the other persons reality.
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Post by Harmless elf on Feb 21, 2021 14:21:16 GMT
Be completely honest to a real friend, even if that means being negative.
But to an acquaintance or people in general? Being negative in general just comes off as churlish and crass. Be socially polite. There's a difference between being negative and being mean. And I didn't say be negative, I said people who claim to be positive will not want to listen to other people's opinions cuz they consider it negative.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Feb 21, 2021 16:08:15 GMT
In the long run, I think others would be less trustful of those who shape their opinions to try always to be agreeable to appear positive. Better to present honestly according to their own values. What takes skill is not to be hurtful in doing so.
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Post by enigma72 on Feb 21, 2021 16:41:20 GMT
I thought it meant you have to quarantine for 2 weeks? ^^
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Post by Harmless elf on Feb 22, 2021 13:38:45 GMT
There's a difference between being negative and being mean. And I didn't say be negative, I said people who claim to be positive will not want to listen to other people's opinions cuz they consider it negative. But I see nothing wrong with being positive even if you don't really feel it or have to force yourself. I think we all benefit from the positive energy. Maybe it's best to go through the motions. The "motions" themselves create positivity. There's only positive energy if it's genuine. Fake positivity will have the opposite effect. I just think honesty is a positive trait and if you don't like something don't pretend like you like it say you don't like it to me that's positive. Lying is negative and cowardly.
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Post by Harmless elf on Feb 22, 2021 23:45:34 GMT
There's only positive energy if it's genuine. Fake positivity will have the opposite effect. I just think honesty is a positive trait and if you don't like something don't pretend like you like it say you don't like it to me that's positive. Lying is negative and cowardly. Frankly I'd rather be around fake positive people than a sappy whiner who's always complaining. Fake positivity = yes man this has been proven in business to be a bad thing cuz when something isn't good instead of saying hey this isn't good this is how you should fix it they say everything's good, everything's great. Being a yesman is a bad thing. it's a better way to be honest, and tell the person this thing sucks and this is how it should be done, guess I'm the only Alpha around here 💪🏻 I don't want to surround myself with Yes Men I understand why someone like you game Boy would want to surround yourself with weak people who aren't going to challenge you, but me I welcome honest opinions people who are going to tell me like it is.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 23, 2021 5:14:37 GMT
a lot of the times positivity means being dishonest it means not saying how you truly feel about things because you don't want to appear negative. So the question is, is not being honest a positive trait? I think being honest is actually more positive. also I've come across people who say they're positive, but they don't like to hear other people's opinions because they think of it as "negative" I'm sorry that doesn't sound very friendly to me which also isn't positive. I disagree with positivity being dishonest. To me positive is seeing the glass as half full. That's become a cliché, but to me there's a profound truth to that common saying. There's always a choice. Can you see a positive outcome? Can you see the good in that person? If so your intention is not dishonest, your intention becomes good will.
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Post by Harmless elf on Feb 23, 2021 14:19:07 GMT
a lot of the times positivity means being dishonest it means not saying how you truly feel about things because you don't want to appear negative. So the question is, is not being honest a positive trait? I think being honest is actually more positive. also I've come across people who say they're positive, but they don't like to hear other people's opinions because they think of it as "negative" I'm sorry that doesn't sound very friendly to me which also isn't positive. I disagree with positivity being dishonest. To me positive is seeing the glass as half full. That's become a cliché, but to me there's a profound truth to that common saying. There's always a choice. Can you see a positive outcome? Can you see the good in that person? If so your intention is not dishonest, your intention becomes good will. It's dishonest if you hide what you truly feel it could also lead someone down the wrong path, if what they're doing is wrong and you keep saying it's right. remember I'm not talking about real negativity I'm talking about what people perceive as negative cuz it's an opinion they don't like because it's not "positive"
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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 23, 2021 17:56:56 GMT
I disagree with positivity being dishonest. To me positive is seeing the glass as half full. That's become a cliché, but to me there's a profound truth to that common saying. There's always a choice. Can you see a positive outcome? Can you see the good in that person? If so your intention is not dishonest, your intention becomes good will. It's dishonest if you hide what you truly feel it could also lead someone down the wrong path, if what they're doing is wrong and you keep saying it's right. remember I'm not talking about real negativity I'm talking about what people perceive as negative cuz it's an opinion they don't like because it's not "positive" I guess I'm looking at it from the first person. I don't think excepting your true feelings or being able to see something realistically is opposite from being able to be positive. First you except it 100%, then you try to make the best of it. If we're talking about something from the other person; every person is responsible for their own truth and their own path, right? If they're not excepting the 'truth' from you, what's your motive? What's your approach? Being able to tell someone 'like it is' says more about your point of view, then theirs. Of course I'm dancing, unless you want to give an example.
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Post by Stammerhead on Feb 23, 2021 23:49:29 GMT
An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it needs to be"
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