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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Mar 19, 2021 17:08:25 GMT
What would you say is the best creation in the entire history of comic books? It could be anything.. a character, an object, a place, a storyline, a movie or tv show.
For instance my answer would be Gotham City. I don't think anything has ever gripped me as much as the world of Gotham. The ambiguous time period, the architecture, the way it corrupts people, and the absurdity of the characters, specifically the gangs and villains. It truly is a fascinating place.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 19, 2021 17:34:57 GMT
It's got to be the Snyder cut, right?
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Post by hobowar on Mar 19, 2021 17:36:07 GMT
Queens, New York would be my 2nd pick.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 19, 2021 17:58:00 GMT
What would you say is the best creation in the entire history of comic books? That's easy. Superman. The creation of that character is the best and single most important event in the entire history of comic books. EVERYTHING in American super hero comics stems from that single thing and effects it all even to this day. The costume, the powers, the heroic code, the secret identity, the supporting characters and surrounding world, the villains, even the name. It has the word SUPER right in it! It all stems from Superman. Nothing can be more important.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Mar 19, 2021 19:17:11 GMT
What would you say is the best creation in the entire history of comic books? That's easy. Superman. The creation of that character is the best and single most important event in the entire history of comic books. EVERYTHING in American super hero comics stems from that single thing and effects it all even to this day. The costume, the powers, the heroic code, the secret identity, the supporting characters and surrounding world, the villains, even the name. It has the word SUPER right in it! It all stems from Superman. Nothing can be more important. I meant more what's your "favorite" creation but I worded it wrong. But yes in matter of importance.. it's definitely Superman. The Daily Planet itself is iconic. And Lois Lane is one of my favorite characters.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 19, 2021 19:30:11 GMT
That's easy. Superman. The creation of that character is the best and single most important event in the entire history of comic books. EVERYTHING in American super hero comics stems from that single thing and effects it all even to this day. The costume, the powers, the heroic code, the secret identity, the supporting characters and surrounding world, the villains, even the name. It has the word SUPER right in it! It all stems from Superman. Nothing can be more important. I meant more what's your "favorite" creation but I worded it wrong. But yes in matter of importance.. it's definitely Superman. The Daily Planet itself is iconic. And Lois Lane is one of my favorite characters. I was going to add that while Superman may be the most important it doesn't mean that he's the most popular. Lots of other characters are much more popular. Batman, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Venom. There's something about Superman that skews hokey.
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Post by gw on Mar 19, 2021 19:43:44 GMT
If you count manga and it were finished, I'd say Osamu Tezuka's Phoenix series. Call it cheating because it's a comic strip from before all comics were three panels long, but Gustave Verbeek's comic The Upside Downs of Little Lady Lovekins and Old Man Muffaroo is amazing. It has six panels and you finish the story by turning it upside down to read the rest after you've read it right side up. I can't think of anybody else who's even tried the idea.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 20, 2021 6:52:32 GMT
Watchmen (the comic).
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Mar 20, 2021 21:47:02 GMT
I meant more what's your "favorite" creation but I worded it wrong. But yes in matter of importance.. it's definitely Superman. The Daily Planet itself is iconic. And Lois Lane is one of my favorite characters. I was going to add that while Superman may be the most important it doesn't mean that he's the most popular. Lots of other characters are much more popular. Batman, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Venom. There's something about Superman that skews hokey. Your post got me thinking about Superman because I was never a reader of his comics as a kid, I was more Spider-Man, the Flash, then later Batman. But I grew up watching the movies, Lois and Clark, and Smallville. But I started thinking a lot about Smallville and why it went downhill when the actor who played Lex Luthor left and it made me realize that Luthor is probably one of the best villains of all time. I say that because he always had so many irons in the fire that didn't even relate to Clark/Superman. He was a businessman, a mad scientist, a politician, and a nemesis, all while considering his actions to be for the greater good. But when you look at other villains most their goals are typically just about being the bad guy or screwing with their nemesis (or each other). So I would actually consider Luthor a pretty phenomenal creation to the history of comics.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 21, 2021 0:46:40 GMT
The first quintessential foil? Without villains as fascinating as The Joker, superheroes (& the genre itself) aren't nearly as interesting.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Mar 21, 2021 23:28:48 GMT
"Best" would be Superman. As mentioned above, he set the stage for everyone else.
My favorite would be Batman. The character has been the most consistently great in one medium or another throughout the years.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 22, 2021 0:09:34 GMT
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 22, 2021 0:50:00 GMT
Spider-man's costume, especially the mask.
There had been caped muscle-men characters before Superman in pulp magazines. There's nothing particularly innovative about his look-and Batman also was pre-dated by some masked characters. but Spider-man's tight fitting mask with the tear-drop eyes--it's psychedelic,
There's nothing to compare it to. The Spider had a mask and a hat but he didn't have the same kind.
He's the Steamboat Willy of comic books. Iconic trend-setting, easily recognizable.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Mar 22, 2021 10:44:01 GMT
The Joker. The greatest comic book villain ever dreamt up.
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Post by sostie on Mar 23, 2021 13:44:09 GMT
Paper & ink
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Post by hobowar on Mar 23, 2021 18:36:58 GMT
Daredevil at least deserves a mention so here it is.
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Post by sostie on Mar 23, 2021 20:44:12 GMT
As dull as I find the character, I can't deny the importance of Superman. After that I'd say Marvel in the 60's. You only have to look at the DC comics of that era to realise that without the influence and challenge of Marvel there was a good chance DC, and in turn superhero comics in general, would have stagnated and died.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 24, 2021 20:14:49 GMT
I was going to add that while Superman may be the most important it doesn't mean that he's the most popular. Lots of other characters are much more popular. Batman, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Venom. There's something about Superman that skews hokey. Your post got me thinking about Superman because I was never a reader of his comics as a kid, I was more Spider-Man, the Flash, then later Batman. But I grew up watching the movies, Lois and Clark, and Smallville. But I started thinking a lot about Smallville and why it went downhill when the actor who played Lex Luthor left and it made me realize that Luthor is probably one of the best villains of all time. I say that because he always had so many irons in the fire that didn't even relate to Clark/Superman. He was a businessman, a mad scientist, a politician, and a nemesis, all while considering his actions to be for the greater good. But when you look at other villains most their goals are typically just about being the bad guy or screwing with their nemesis (or each other). So I would actually consider Luthor a pretty phenomenal creation to the history of comics. Luthor is a cool character. He is one of the top archetypes for a comic book villain. No powers but powerful in other ways (money, intelligence), seething rage based on jealousy, perceived physical deformity (baldness in his case). Its all there. Dr. Doom is another good one like that.
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