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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 13:57:33 GMT
A quick look at your history reveals you to have been here all of 5 minutes Yes. Someone here linked to my site a few days ago and I saw the trackback on my site's traffic tool and wondered what article was being linked to. Then I saw some common bad theories being presented here, such as yours, and so did what my site, video channel and podcast all exist to do - debunked the bad history. So? If my criticisms don't make you feel warm and fuzzy then that's not surprising. But I haven't "insulted" you. You made an assertion that a composite Jesus was most likely. Every single time I've seen that claim and I've challenged the claimant to back it up, they've failed. I challenged you to do so. You failed. I often find that people whose weak ideas are challenged and who then fail to back them up then suddenly lose interest in the debate. And often whine about "insults". This is a very regular pattern. We have "physical or archaeological evidence" for a tiny few in the ancient world, so that there is none for this peasant preacher tells us nothing. We have no "physical or archaeological evidence" for any of the other early first century Jewish preachers, prophets and Messianic claimants either. Big deal. That's what we'd expect. No historian on the planet uses this as the criterion for whether an ancient figure existed. If they did, abiout 99% of them would "not exist", which is clearly absurd. Apart from the stuff that isn't. Like Tacitus Annals XV.44. Or Josephus AJ XX.200. The latter records the execution of Jesus' brother James - an event that happened in Josephus' own town while he was there. That's pretty direct testimony. So no, we're not wholly dependent on Christian material. Which is normal for most ancient figures. Try this - find me an account of Hannibal that dates to within his lifetime. Good luck. You don't understand the nature of ancient source material. No, that isn't the "only" conclusion. It isn't even a good conclusion. That's why almost no scholars draw that conclusion. And includes pretty much all NON-Christian scholars. So, wrong. I'm not "ignoring" your bad arguments - I'm showing, in some detail, why they don't work. Your conclusion is based on false premises. And so it's not surprising it's wrong. And not shared by scholars (apart from a tiny few fringe nobodies, though any field has a few contrarians at the fringes). I'm also not "hiding" any "faith", if that weak insinuation is aimed at me. I have an online history that goes back to 1992. Go search it if you like. You'll find that I've been an atheist my whole adult life and you'll also find posts and articles by me arguing against Christian claims about the supposed resurrection of Jesus (such as here), against the claim that Jesus was God (e.g. here), against the claim his coming was foretold by Old Testament prophecy ( here) and arguing in detail that Jesus was simply a failed Jewish apocalyptic prophet (see here). So if you were trying the weak sneering argument that I'm somehow only pretending to be an unbeliever, that just crashed and burned as well. You keep failing here. Completely. Perhaps you should stop. My, you are full of yourself, and pumped up with your own sense of self-importance aren't you.
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Post by Cody™ on Apr 3, 2021 14:01:44 GMT
Don’t make this worser on yourself. Quit while you’re way behind, antichrist. Zos I hear you're the antichrist now. Should we all be antichrists? What's the Church's position? I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the old antichristing. Of course he is not THE antichrist. He is A antichrist. It’s evident from his posts. You though are not an antichrist, Jack. You’re just a little leftist wally.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 14:04:23 GMT
Zos I hear you're the antichrist now. Should we all be antichrists? What's the Church's position? I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the old antichristing. Of course he is not THE antichrist. He is A antichrist. It’s evident from his posts. You though are not an antichrist, Jack. You’re just a little leftist wally. I'm a good Catholic lad. Liberation theology (leftist as you call it), is our thing. Like Jesus taught us.
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Post by Zos on Apr 3, 2021 14:08:05 GMT
Don’t make this worser on yourself. Quit while you’re way behind, antichrist. Zos I hear you're the antichrist now. Should we all be antichrists? What's the Church's position? I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the old antichristing. Get into it slowly, put aside a few hours on a Tuesday for a bit of light Antichristing. Don't go all out with the fire and brimstone straight away, it can look a bit showy. Start by flicking peanuts at people's heads on the bus.
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Post by Zos on Apr 3, 2021 14:10:11 GMT
Zos I hear you're the antichrist now. Should we all be antichrists? What's the Church's position? I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the old antichristing. Of course he is not THE antichrist. He is A antichrist. It’s evident from his posts. You though are not an antichrist, Jack. You’re just a little leftist wally. Damn right kiddo....
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Post by Cody™ on Apr 3, 2021 14:12:39 GMT
Of course he is not THE antichrist. He is A antichrist. It’s evident from his posts. You though are not an antichrist, Jack. You’re just a little leftist wally. I'm a good Catholic lad. Liberation theology (leftist as you call it), is our thing. Like Jesus taught us. Liberation theology has nothing to do with today’s radical leftist woke agenda which you very much embrace.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 14:14:17 GMT
I'm a good Catholic lad. Liberation theology (leftist as you call it), is our thing. Like Jesus taught us. Liberation theology has nothing to do with today’s radical leftist woke agenda which you very much embrace. Jesus was very much a radical socialist. That is liberation theology.
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Post by Cody™ on Apr 3, 2021 14:16:55 GMT
Liberation theology has nothing to do with today’s radical leftist woke agenda which you very much embrace. Jesus was very much a radical socialist. That is liberation theology. Nah.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 14:18:54 GMT
Jesus was very much a radical socialist. That is liberation theology. Nah. Well, you can say "Nah" Who are you to define what is and isn't Catholic social teaching and doctrine? You aren't a Catholic.
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Post by Cody™ on Apr 3, 2021 14:22:00 GMT
Well, you can say "Nah" Who are you to define what is and isn't Catholic social doctrine. You aren't a Catholic. I was raised Catholic. You’re conflating theology with today’s anti-God woke agenda. You’re confused and need to repent my friend.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 14:35:25 GMT
Well, you can say "Nah" Who are you to define what is and isn't Catholic social doctrine. You aren't a Catholic. I was raised Catholic. You’re conflating theology with today’s anti-God woke agenda. You’re confused and need to repent my friend. Examination of conscience, and the Penitential Act is part of my daily life, every single day. I don't need to be told to repent by some right wing political crank because they don't like Catholic liberation theology.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 14:57:26 GMT
Of course he is not THE antichrist. He is A antichrist. It’s evident from his posts. You though are not an antichrist, Jack. You’re just a little leftist wally. Damn right kiddo.... Very Catholic song this one...
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Post by Zos on Apr 3, 2021 15:11:08 GMT
Liberation theology has nothing to do with today’s radical leftist woke agenda which you very much embrace. Jesus was very much a radical socialist. That is liberation theology. I always love the way that far right Americans stretch themselves out of shape to deny that Christ was socialist.
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Post by Cody™ on Apr 3, 2021 15:29:29 GMT
Jesus was very much a radical socialist. That is liberation theology. I always love the way that far right Americans stretch themselves out of shape to deny that Christ was socialist. I’m not American. And give me your definition of socialism?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 15:44:50 GMT
Jesus was very much a radical socialist. That is liberation theology. I always love the way that far right Americans stretch themselves out of shape to deny that Christ was socialist. Impossible to take Christ's teachings as anything but socialist.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 16:03:03 GMT
Zos I hear you're the antichrist now. Should we all be antichrists? What's the Church's position? I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the old antichristing. Get into it slowly, put aside a few hours on a Tuesday for a bit of light Antichristing. Don't go all out with the fire and brimstone straight away, it can look a bit showy. Start by flicking peanuts at people's heads on the bus. In non-covid times I attend Mass at St Bernards on Tuesday evenings at 6pm, then enjoy/endure the Tuesday football commentaries on the wireless. Can I save the whole antichristing thing for Wednesday evenings?
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Post by Zos on Apr 3, 2021 17:14:53 GMT
Get into it slowly, put aside a few hours on a Tuesday for a bit of light Antichristing. Don't go all out with the fire and brimstone straight away, it can look a bit showy. Start by flicking peanuts at people's heads on the bus. In non-covid times I attend Mass at St Bernards on Tuesday evenings at 6pm, then enjoy/endure the Tuesday football commentaries on the wireless. Can I save the whole antichristing thing for Wednesday evenings? Hmmm, not sure you're really committed. Okay but lots of antiChristing on the Wednesdays, no mucking about. Put your back into it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 17:37:32 GMT
In non-covid times I attend Mass at St Bernards on Tuesday evenings at 6pm, then enjoy/endure the Tuesday football commentaries on the wireless. Can I save the whole antichristing thing for Wednesday evenings? Hmmm, not sure you're really committed. Okay but lots of antiChristing on the Wednesdays, no mucking about. Put your back into it. You've got me there ☹️ Between being a good Catholic lad, a football fan, and caring for the animals... I'm not sure I've got the time to be dedicating to being a full time antichrist. Can I go part-time?
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Post by Zos on Apr 3, 2021 19:23:38 GMT
Hmmm, not sure you're really committed. Okay but lots of antiChristing on the Wednesdays, no mucking about. Put your back into it. You've got me there ☹️ Between being a good Catholic lad, a football fan, and caring for the animals... I'm not sure I've got the time to be dedicating to being a full time antichrist. Can I go part-time? Nah, we tried that with the Jesuits and it was a bit of a disaster. Full time only.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 19:34:31 GMT
You've got me there ☹️ Between being a good Catholic lad, a football fan, and caring for the animals... I'm not sure I've got the time to be dedicating to being a full time antichrist. Can I go part-time? Nah, we tried that with the Jesuits and it was a bit of a disaster. Full time only. I can't commit to that then. Sorry. If it helps, Pentecostals and other far right evangelical types call our Pope the antichrist, so I suppose we're already doing our bit.
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