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Post by Geddy on Apr 3, 2021 1:55:14 GMT
Robert Powell by far. Strange enough that he wasn't Zefferelli's first choice.
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Post by drystyx on Apr 3, 2021 3:03:59 GMT
For acting the role, I take Hunter. But he probably looked less like Jesus than any other actor who ever played the role. And that's okay.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Apr 3, 2021 8:10:51 GMT
No opinion on any of the live-action portrayals, but I love the depiction of Jesus in South Park. Especially in the Easter special set in the Vatican.
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Post by jonesjxd on Apr 3, 2021 12:55:43 GMT
Jim Caviezel. How can you not watch this scene and think he doesn’t seem pure... The thing is you are right if scenes like this weren't few and far between within the movie. Jim Caviezel gives a great performance in all the flashbacks, he's charismatic, earnest and likable. If this sequel actually happens, I'll be excited to see it because I want to see what Caviezel does in the role when he's not relegated to shrieks of agony and covered head to toe in blood.
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Post by jonesjxd on Apr 3, 2021 13:29:36 GMT
My favorite is Willem Dafoe in Last Temptation of the Christ. What I love about this portrayal of Jesus is that Scorsese doesn't sit on the fence about this, it's not inconclusive whether or not Jesus is the son of God, at the same time there is no doubt in Scorsese's mind that Jesus is also human, and the result is a rich story about a man learning how to accept what he is, learning how to interpret the word internally and learning how to release that word externally. While he's terrified of the death that awaits him, his doubt is about letting go of the world his humanity is a part of. The difference between Passion and Last Temptation is a philosophical question, which is worse? Dying or not living. Mel Gibson comes from the perspective that the worst aspect of death is the dying part, his view of death is brutal agony and something to be feared, while Martin Scorsese's view is that the worst aspect of death is no longer living, and that's something to be heart broken over. Another thing I've never liked about Gibson's interpretation of Jesus is that his Jesus has no agency, his moment of doubt in Gethsemane is externalized in the form of demons. Scorsese's Jesus's moment of doubt is presented as a choice, he's shown his entire life as a man, he's shown that Jerusalem will burn regardless and he's given the choice to die an old man, or sacrifice everything he could've had to go back to the cross. I find that more inspirational in my daily struggles. The past year has been especially difficult in my line of work, so many times I thought "I could just give up, I could just find a way to get on unemployment, I could be out hiking right now, or relaxing, or spending time with the people I care about, but I'm stuck doing this job that they say is essential and important. How important is it, actually?", the aches and pains of work were bad, but it's what I was missing out on that really upset me. And there you have it.
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Post by drystyx on Apr 3, 2021 15:39:42 GMT
My favorite is Willem Dafoe in Last Temptation of the Christ. What I love about this portrayal of Jesus is that Scorsese doesn't sit on the fence about this, it's not inconclusive whether or not Jesus is the son of God, at the same time there is no doubt in Scorsese's mind that Jesus is also human, and the result is a rich story about a man learning how to accept what he is, learning how to interpret the word internally and learning how to release that word externally. While he's terrified of the death that awaits him, his doubt is about letting go of the world his humanity is a part of. The difference between Passion and Last Temptation is a philosophical question, which is worse? Dying or not living. Mel Gibson comes from the perspective that the worst aspect of death is the dying part, his view of death is brutal agony and something to be feared, while Martin Scorsese's view is that the worst aspect of death is no longer living, and that's something to be heart broken over. Another thing I've never liked about Gibson's interpretation of Jesus is that his Jesus has no agency, his moment of doubt in Gethsemane is externalized in the form of demons. Scorsese's Jesus's moment of doubt is presented as a choice, he's shown his entire life as a man, he's shown that Jerusalem will burn regardless and he's given the choice to die an old man, or sacrifice everything he could've had to go back to the cross. I find that more inspirational in my daily struggles. The past year has been especially difficult in my line of work, so many times I thought "I could just give up, I could just find a way to get on unemployment, I could be out hiking right now, or relaxing, or spending time with the people I care about, but I'm stuck doing this job that they say is essential and important. How important is it, actually?", the aches and pains of work were bad, but it's what I was missing out on that really upset me. And there you have it. You seem to be missing the entire story of "Last Temptation". It's totally about Jesus being the portion of God who realizes the reality. The "reality" of what God allowed when God allowed the Devil the power and resources over which humans had no defense. When Jesus is on the cross, he doesn't have any idea that the Devil is fooling him. He takes the way out of suffering from total innocence. "Last Temptation" is about how God doesn't seem to comprehend that mortals can't possibly be at fault for being fooled. The Old Testament is full of stories in which God allows those who are "fooled" by evil people to be destroyed. One is horribly killed by a lion because he was fooled by an evil character, and the evil character wasn't punished. Jacob fools Esau and Laban. Laban fools Jacob, and so on, and in each case, God allows the innocent person being fooled to be the one who is punished. Until the "last temptation", God appears not to realize that he is punishing the wrong people, and allowing the Devil to reign an uninspired, boring world with no strategy, just abuse of power. This abuse hits God in the jaw when Jesus, as a portion of the God, is fooled like the human he becomes. It's totally evident that this is the story. Jesus doesn't "make a choice". He's just fooled by the character who is given too much power and too many resources. It's like God was punishing people for not being able to see when he refused to allow them eyesight in the first place. There's no strategy, no choice, no adventure. Just abuse of power and resources, which is what the Devil does. The Devil isn't "clever" for fooling people any more than I would be clever if I led a man who had no sight, hearing, or sense of smell into a lion's den. No strategy is involved. Just abuse. By feeling what Jesus feels as a human, God just now realizes he was wrong. Yes, God was wrong. But God learned from his mistake, we hope. At least that's what the movie is about.
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Post by jonesjxd on Apr 4, 2021 15:56:41 GMT
My favorite is Willem Dafoe in Last Temptation of the Christ. What I love about this portrayal of Jesus is that Scorsese doesn't sit on the fence about this, it's not inconclusive whether or not Jesus is the son of God, at the same time there is no doubt in Scorsese's mind that Jesus is also human, and the result is a rich story about a man learning how to accept what he is, learning how to interpret the word internally and learning how to release that word externally. While he's terrified of the death that awaits him, his doubt is about letting go of the world his humanity is a part of. The difference between Passion and Last Temptation is a philosophical question, which is worse? Dying or not living. Mel Gibson comes from the perspective that the worst aspect of death is the dying part, his view of death is brutal agony and something to be feared, while Martin Scorsese's view is that the worst aspect of death is no longer living, and that's something to be heart broken over. Another thing I've never liked about Gibson's interpretation of Jesus is that his Jesus has no agency, his moment of doubt in Gethsemane is externalized in the form of demons. Scorsese's Jesus's moment of doubt is presented as a choice, he's shown his entire life as a man, he's shown that Jerusalem will burn regardless and he's given the choice to die an old man, or sacrifice everything he could've had to go back to the cross. I find that more inspirational in my daily struggles. The past year has been especially difficult in my line of work, so many times I thought "I could just give up, I could just find a way to get on unemployment, I could be out hiking right now, or relaxing, or spending time with the people I care about, but I'm stuck doing this job that they say is essential and important. How important is it, actually?", the aches and pains of work were bad, but it's what I was missing out on that really upset me. And there you have it. You seem to be missing the entire story of "Last Temptation". It's totally about Jesus being the portion of God who realizes the reality. The "reality" of what God allowed when God allowed the Devil the power and resources over which humans had no defense. When Jesus is on the cross, he doesn't have any idea that the Devil is fooling him. He takes the way out of suffering from total innocence. "Last Temptation" is about how God doesn't seem to comprehend that mortals can't possibly be at fault for being fooled. The Old Testament is full of stories in which God allows those who are "fooled" by evil people to be destroyed. One is horribly killed by a lion because he was fooled by an evil character, and the evil character wasn't punished. Jacob fools Esau and Laban. Laban fools Jacob, and so on, and in each case, God allows the innocent person being fooled to be the one who is punished. Until the "last temptation", God appears not to realize that he is punishing the wrong people, and allowing the Devil to reign an uninspired, boring world with no strategy, just abuse of power. This abuse hits God in the jaw when Jesus, as a portion of the God, is fooled like the human he becomes. It's totally evident that this is the story. Jesus doesn't "make a choice". He's just fooled by the character who is given too much power and too many resources. It's like God was punishing people for not being able to see when he refused to allow them eyesight in the first place. There's no strategy, no choice, no adventure. Just abuse of power and resources, which is what the Devil does. The Devil isn't "clever" for fooling people any more than I would be clever if I led a man who had no sight, hearing, or sense of smell into a lion's den. No strategy is involved. Just abuse. By feeling what Jesus feels as a human, God just now realizes he was wrong. Yes, God was wrong. But God learned from his mistake, we hope. At least that's what the movie is about. Hmm, textually you're not wrong. That is literally what happens in the movie, but from everything I've ever heard Martin Scorsese say about his intentions for making the movie, that's absolutely not the point of the movie. No accounting for death of the author. Happy Easter.
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