Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 3, 2021 2:45:55 GMT
(Full Disclosure, I find the obsession and counter obsession around this particular set of films fascinating because there doesn't seem to be much in the way of middle ground. Depending on who you talk to it's either obviously a mess or obviously the result of a secret project of the illuminati to preserve sperm cells from each of the greatest artists in history over thousands of years with the goal of gifting us with the genetically enhanced super artist Zack Snyder. As much as I've loathed the series I'm actually glad he got to produce his own untainted send off, because it gives us a clear perspective on what he alone has in mind, and there's at least one scene that exemplifies just what a storytelling mess he really is.)
Wonder Woman's 7:48 long introduction in Zack Snyder's Justice League:
Nearly everything about this scene, other than simply looking fine, is wrong, and it sums up everything that has been continually wrong about the Zack Snyder DC films from the start.
- Let's start with the length. A near 8 full minute introduction for a single character (who already has a solo film) is just an excessive idea to start with, and if you're going to do it, the story you're telling needs to necessitate that much time for one character in an ensemble. I repeat, the story needs to dictate this. And that's precisely what's missing here.
- The problem is that the story here is about terrorists who want to blow up 4 city blocks, and who already have a bomb to do it with. That would be fine by itself. Just have Wonder Woman stop them and be done with the scene in a couple of minutes.
- Instead what Zack decides to show us is three minutes of them infiltrating a building, and systematically taking out security guards as though they've planned this all out. Why? All they want to do is blow up the bomb. Just stand anywhere in the street and blow it up. Why are we taking out guards?
- Then this group takes another couple of minutes to call to order a couple dozen hostages and shout out the window at police officers below. Why? All they want to do is blow up the bomb. Just stand anywhere in the street and blow it up. Why are we taking hostages?
- Then, as if it needed to make less sense, the group starts a timer on the bomb. WHYYYY!!!? WHY WHY WHY WHY?!?!? All they want to do is blow up the bomb. Just stand anywhere in the street and blow it up. Why are we starting a timer?
- And then Wonder Woman shows up. This is all that needed to be shown to start with, and everything she does at first is fine. She takes out all but the leader and then blocks all of his bullets as he fires a machine gun. AWESOME. This is the only part of the scene that needed to happen.
- BTW keeping in mind that none of this has anything to do with the plot of the film, and we're spending 8 whole minutes on it.
- BUT,,, Zack couldn't end it on a high note. He couldn't help himself from adding something that never got beyond "it looks cool" in his thought process. What he does, is proceed to completely ignore that he just established that Wonder Woman could move fast enough to stop ALL OF THE BULLETS from a machine gun, and instead of just tackling the guy, he has her panic and force every single child in the room to watch her pulverize a man through a concrete wall. You absolutely can not establish her speed, and in the very next shot, ignore it. That's just terrible f'ing filmmaking, and there's no excuse for it. It is abundantly clear that all Zack thought was "oh it'd be neat if she blasted him through the wall".
- And even worse, Zack goes out of his way to show you that she rained heavy debris down upon unsuspecting bystanders outside. And I assume she didn't bother to check if it was a load bearing wall or not. I mean just BRAVO!. Slow clap for Wonder Woman and Zack for just one of the most braindead scenes of all time.
Seriously this is a scene where you can track Zack's thought process, nothing about it makes sense, it's all superfluous, and it is clear as day, that he, does, not, think, about, what, he's, doing, with, the, narrative. He just does whatever he thinks looks cool, and doesn't give a flying monkey shit if it makes any sense to the characters or the plot. And this type of filmmaking is what has plagued him in MOS, in BVS, and will keep doing so if they let him keep making films. Why does anybody celebrate this?
Wonder Woman's 7:48 long introduction in Zack Snyder's Justice League:
Nearly everything about this scene, other than simply looking fine, is wrong, and it sums up everything that has been continually wrong about the Zack Snyder DC films from the start.
- Let's start with the length. A near 8 full minute introduction for a single character (who already has a solo film) is just an excessive idea to start with, and if you're going to do it, the story you're telling needs to necessitate that much time for one character in an ensemble. I repeat, the story needs to dictate this. And that's precisely what's missing here.
- The problem is that the story here is about terrorists who want to blow up 4 city blocks, and who already have a bomb to do it with. That would be fine by itself. Just have Wonder Woman stop them and be done with the scene in a couple of minutes.
- Instead what Zack decides to show us is three minutes of them infiltrating a building, and systematically taking out security guards as though they've planned this all out. Why? All they want to do is blow up the bomb. Just stand anywhere in the street and blow it up. Why are we taking out guards?
- Then this group takes another couple of minutes to call to order a couple dozen hostages and shout out the window at police officers below. Why? All they want to do is blow up the bomb. Just stand anywhere in the street and blow it up. Why are we taking hostages?
- Then, as if it needed to make less sense, the group starts a timer on the bomb. WHYYYY!!!? WHY WHY WHY WHY?!?!? All they want to do is blow up the bomb. Just stand anywhere in the street and blow it up. Why are we starting a timer?
- And then Wonder Woman shows up. This is all that needed to be shown to start with, and everything she does at first is fine. She takes out all but the leader and then blocks all of his bullets as he fires a machine gun. AWESOME. This is the only part of the scene that needed to happen.
- BTW keeping in mind that none of this has anything to do with the plot of the film, and we're spending 8 whole minutes on it.
- BUT,,, Zack couldn't end it on a high note. He couldn't help himself from adding something that never got beyond "it looks cool" in his thought process. What he does, is proceed to completely ignore that he just established that Wonder Woman could move fast enough to stop ALL OF THE BULLETS from a machine gun, and instead of just tackling the guy, he has her panic and force every single child in the room to watch her pulverize a man through a concrete wall. You absolutely can not establish her speed, and in the very next shot, ignore it. That's just terrible f'ing filmmaking, and there's no excuse for it. It is abundantly clear that all Zack thought was "oh it'd be neat if she blasted him through the wall".
- And even worse, Zack goes out of his way to show you that she rained heavy debris down upon unsuspecting bystanders outside. And I assume she didn't bother to check if it was a load bearing wall or not. I mean just BRAVO!. Slow clap for Wonder Woman and Zack for just one of the most braindead scenes of all time.
Seriously this is a scene where you can track Zack's thought process, nothing about it makes sense, it's all superfluous, and it is clear as day, that he, does, not, think, about, what, he's, doing, with, the, narrative. He just does whatever he thinks looks cool, and doesn't give a flying monkey shit if it makes any sense to the characters or the plot. And this type of filmmaking is what has plagued him in MOS, in BVS, and will keep doing so if they let him keep making films. Why does anybody celebrate this?
