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Post by darkpast on Apr 4, 2021 14:56:55 GMT
But half of what it should make in normal times , baby steps
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Post by politicidal on Apr 5, 2021 14:40:42 GMT
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Post by Jan El Señor on Apr 5, 2021 15:35:14 GMT
The hilarious part is that it's already outgrossed Terminator: Dark Fate worldwide.
Lol
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 11, 2021 7:18:35 GMT
This is what the movies were made for!
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Post by politicidal on Apr 11, 2021 13:07:05 GMT
This is what the movies were made for! Theme park rides?  take that, Martin Scorsese! |
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Post by politicidal on Apr 12, 2021 12:59:47 GMT
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 12, 2021 18:48:58 GMT
variety.com/2021/film/columns/godzilla-vs-kong-is-nonsense-the-new-normal-1234948938/‘Godzilla vs. Kong’ Raises the Question: Is Nonsense the New Normal? By now, a great many people have seen “Godzilla vs. Kong,” and what a lot of them seem to agree on — even many who like it — is that the movie makes almost no sense. That’s nothing new. A number of noteworthy blockbusters have had issues in the how-exactly-does-this-parse? department, like “Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales” or the “Transformers” films or “Avengers: Age of Ultron.” What’s new about the loopy, yes-we-really-have-stopped-making-sense quality of “Godzilla vs. Kong” is the chortling shrug of approval with which it’s been met. Most of what happens in the film is so defiant in its lack of purpose — Kong will go to the Hollow Earth; so that his ride through a cut-rate “Avatar” landscape of primeval wonder will distract you; long enough to keep you from asking what he’s doing there — that the film has been greeted as a knowingly cheeky act of storytelling insanity (or is it inanity?).
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 14, 2021 5:44:16 GMT
Bring it on! The MonsterVerse is just getting started!
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 14, 2021 5:48:12 GMT
variety.com/2021/film/columns/godzilla-vs-kong-is-nonsense-the-new-normal-1234948938/‘Godzilla vs. Kong’ Raises the Question: Is Nonsense the New Normal? By now, a great many people have seen “Godzilla vs. Kong,” and what a lot of them seem to agree on — even many who like it — is that the movie makes almost no sense. That’s nothing new. A number of noteworthy blockbusters have had issues in the how-exactly-does-this-parse? department, like “Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales” or the “Transformers” films or “Avengers: Age of Ultron.” What’s new about the loopy, yes-we-really-have-stopped-making-sense quality of “Godzilla vs. Kong” is the chortling shrug of approval with which it’s been met. Most of what happens in the film is so defiant in its lack of purpose — Kong will go to the Hollow Earth; so that his ride through a cut-rate “Avatar” landscape of primeval wonder will distract you; long enough to keep you from asking what he’s doing there — that the film has been greeted as a knowingly cheeky act of storytelling insanity (or is it inanity?). Um, I went to see Godzilla vs. Kong to see Godzilla vs. Kong, not Godzilla and King Kong in Hamlet vs. Macbeth. This is the most entertaining installment of the MonsterVerse so far, and a legitimate Hollywood version of Godzilla that's true to the spirit of the original Toho kaiju movies, especially the ones from the 1960s through the 1980s.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 14, 2021 6:34:45 GMT
Um, I went to see Godzilla vs. Kong to see Godzilla vs. Kong, not Godzilla and King Kong in Hamlet vs. Macbeth. This is the most entertaining installment of the MonsterVerse so far, and a legitimate Hollywood version of Godzilla that's true to the spirit of the original Toho kaiju movies, especially the ones from the 1960s through the 1980s. Actually Shakespeare is found in many low budget Corman-type monster movies. Toho of the 60s is the not best source for that sort of thing but I think the writer is speaking of Western film--big theatrical releases--and he's saying-are they getting more stupid? Yeah they are but it is developed over a number of years.
I do wonder how these actors feel playing such dumb characters--it used to be common for actors to write their own dialogue or demand things for their characters. I suspect in these movies they just go with the paycheck and say oh well-but Nick Adams took the Toho roles seriously. He seemed to treat it like Hamlet.
Maybe they are hacks compared to actors of an earlier generation. Most of them in the trailer sound like they are reciting from a phone book. They don't seem invested in it but the dialogue is awful--"Godzilla is out there hurting people and we dont know why"--if he was talking about a poodle biting it would make more sense.
Not a 500-foot creature. Not intense or ominous.
The movie feels like --they saw the Avengers and decided to do something the same with another franchise--"hey--let's do this Marvel thing with the monsters---we'll have a Kong movie and a couple of Godzillas and then have them meet."
Franchises and brands...
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Post by politicidal on Apr 14, 2021 13:46:28 GMT
ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda I agree. Sometimes people expect too much from these kinds of movies. But on the one hand, I do see the complaint that at a point, the filmmaker(s) could try harder. Like elevate the material for stuff like this to something on par with Jaws or the first Jurassic Park movie.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 15, 2021 6:45:15 GMT
Um, I went to see Godzilla vs. Kong to see Godzilla vs. Kong, not Godzilla and King Kong in Hamlet vs. Macbeth. This is the most entertaining installment of the MonsterVerse so far, and a legitimate Hollywood version of Godzilla that's true to the spirit of the original Toho kaiju movies, especially the ones from the 1960s through the 1980s. Actually Shakespeare is found in many low budget Corman-type monster movies. Toho of the 60s is the not best source for that sort of thing but I think the writer is speaking of Western film--big theatrical releases--and he's saying-are they getting more stupid? Yeah they are but it is developed over a number of years.
I do wonder how these actors feel playing such dumb characters--it used to be common for actors to write their own dialogue or demand things for their characters. I suspect in these movies they just go with the paycheck and say oh well-but Nick Adams took the Toho roles seriously. He seemed to treat it like Hamlet.
Maybe they are hacks compared to actors of an earlier generation. Most of them in the trailer sound like they are reciting from a phone book. They don't seem invested in it but the dialogue is awful--"Godzilla is out there hurting people and we dont know why"--if he was talking about a poodle biting it would make more sense.
Not a 500-foot creature. Not intense or ominous.
The movie feels like --they saw the Avengers and decided to do something the same with another franchise--"hey--let's do this Marvel thing with the monsters---we'll have a Kong movie and a couple of Godzillas and then have them meet."
Franchises and brands...
In other words, just like the Toho movies! So the Toho movies did this before Marvel, at least in the movies! The main difference is, bigger budget courtesy of Hollywood, meaning better-looking Godzillas and Kong!
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 15, 2021 6:46:58 GMT
ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda I agree. Sometimes people expect too much from these kinds of movies. But on the one hand, I do see the complaint that at a point, the filmmaker(s) could try harder. Like elevate the material for stuff like this to something on par with Jaws or the first Jurassic Park movie. I see what you're saying. But Jaws is Jaws, and Jurassic Park is Jurassic Park. (And Steven Spielberg is Steven Spielberg.) This is Godzilla!
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 15, 2021 16:25:56 GMT
In other words, just like the Toho movies! So the Toho movies did this before Marvel, at least in the movies! The main difference is, bigger budget courtesy of Hollywood, meaning better-looking Godzillas and Kong! Not the same because it wasn't planned. Toho didn't plan to have Kong and Godzilla meet--that was the Willis O'Brien concept King Kong vs Frankenstein and they changed it to Godzilla.
This was planned from the beginning. That's why they copied the end credits scenes with the Marvel films.
Instead of even having one movie stand on its own, they are thinking ahead to next sequels--but not enough to put more effort into the basic writing of them.
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Post by Downey on Apr 15, 2021 17:37:58 GMT
ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda I agree. Sometimes people expect too much from these kinds of movies. But on the one hand, I do see the complaint that at a point, the filmmaker(s) could try harder. Like elevate the material for stuff like this to something on par with Jaws or the first Jurassic Park movie. Something on a par with Jaws and Jurassic Park that were both ridiculous movies too. The kids having jelly and sweets when they're meant to be running for their lives from dinosaurs or in Jaws where stupid unprepared sailors going after a large shark... It's about time someone set you lot straight on the holy grail that is deemed to be Jaws and Jurassic Park because they aren't. |
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 17, 2021 6:27:33 GMT
In other words, just like the Toho movies! So the Toho movies did this before Marvel, at least in the movies! The main difference is, bigger budget courtesy of Hollywood, meaning better-looking Godzillas and Kong! Not the same because it wasn't planned. Toho didn't plan to have Kong and Godzilla meet--that was the Willis O'Brien concept King Kong vs Frankenstein and they changed it to Godzilla.
This was planned from the beginning. That's why they copied the end credits scenes with the Marvel films.
Instead of even having one movie stand on its own, they are thinking ahead to next sequels--but not enough to put more effort into the basic writing of them.
And Toho went along with that concept and planned that.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 17, 2021 15:54:11 GMT
And Toho went along with that concept and planned that. Sure, but it is different form them planning Godzilla and Kong meeting from the beginning. This is how the current movies were done.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 18, 2021 6:06:16 GMT
And Toho went along with that concept and planned that. Sure, but it is different form them planning Godzilla and Kong meeting from the beginning. This is how the current movies were done.
In that regard, yes. But Godzilla vs. Kong is a lighthearted camp fest in the best tradition of the best Toho monster mashes from the 1960s through the 1990s. The main difference being that the monsters are CGI rather than men in suits.
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take that, Martin Scorsese!
