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Post by movieliker on Apr 26, 2021 16:31:23 GMT
I don't understand. She said her husband worked the same job for 26 years. And she had numerous jobs while they were together.
But she needs to sell all her belongings to buy a old run down van?
The husband's job was a union job. He didn't have any benefits? No retirement? No medical insurance? No life insurance?
She said they were living in corporate track housing. They weren't spending much on rent.
She said they had no children. They lived out in the middle of nowhere. They weren't spending much on entertainment --- restaurants, theater, concerts, etc.
They didn't save for retirement, a rainy day, emergencies?
Where did all the money go?
Was she a victim of the recession? Or was she just a victim of bad money management?
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Post by Marv on Apr 27, 2021 2:45:14 GMT
I don’t remember it being clear what exactly caused her to become a van person. It’s implied that the culture present has a variety of factors including finances and dependency, but also simple freedom and a kind of counterculture. I definitely think by the end she had become a person that didn’t want to live in a house without wheels.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 27, 2021 3:49:03 GMT
I don’t remember it being clear what exactly caused her to become a van person. It’s implied that the culture present has a variety of factors including finances and dependency, but also simple freedom and a kind of counterculture. I definitely think by the end she had become a person that didn’t want to live in a house without wheels. I don't think the movie was very clear about her financial situation. But she did have to borrow money to get her van fixed. |
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Post by Vits on Jun 1, 2021 11:07:35 GMT
NOMADLAND showcases a very particular way of living that only some individuals are a part of, and yet, it manages to encapsulate what life is all about. All human beings interact with someone every day. Yes, even loners with strangers. Each interaction can be a meaningful experience as long as we allow it to be. The protagonist of this movie (Fern) isn't the most extreme example since she does have friends and living relatives, but she doesn't see them on a daily basis, so she can still feel lonely. No matter the problem (emotional or not), she always gets back up and carries on. Most of her encounters with other people (including the brief ones) are full of joy and subtle humor, thanks partly to Frances McDormand's contagious smile. Early on, we see Fern telling her new friend Swankie about her late husband Bo. Fern says that she thought about assisted suicide while he was sick, but Swankie tells her that maybe Bo wouldn't have wanted it. That maybe he wanted to stay with Fern as long as he could. Why is this dialogue so great? Because during a previous exchange, Swankie said that she supports euthanasia to the point where she would do it to herself. That's right: A person picked a side in a highly debated topic but still has enough empathy to look at things from the other side in order to make another person feel better. Is there anything in this movie that doesn't work? Well, there are too many cuts during the scenes where there's nothing happening but a conversation. I'm sure it was done for pacing reasons, since it's not a very eventful plot, but it's still excessive. However, it's not bad enough to overshadow other artistic and technical aspects. Besides, editor/producer/writer/director Chloé Zhao redeems herself with the immersive montages and with the clever ways in which she ends a scene and starts the next one. She throws viewers in the middle of a situation with enough hints for us understand what's going on and to figure out how much time has passed. Honestly, I didn't want the movie to end. 10/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog. |
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Post by movieliker on Jun 1, 2021 17:29:02 GMT
NOMADLAND showcases a very particular way of living that only some individuals are a part of, and yet, it manages to encapsulate what life is all about. All human beings interact with someone every day. Yes, even loners with strangers. Each interaction can be a meaningful experience as long as we allow it to be. The protagonist of this movie (Fern) isn't the most extreme example since she does have friends and living relatives, but she doesn't see them on a daily basis, so she can still feel lonely. No matter the problem (emotional or not), she always gets back up and carries on. Most of her encounters with other people (including the brief ones) are full of joy and subtle humor, thanks partly to Frances McDormand's contagious smile. Early on, we see Fern telling her new friend Swankie about her late husband Bo. Fern says that she thought about assisted suicide while he was sick, but Swankie tells her that maybe Bo wouldn't have wanted it. That maybe he wanted to stay with Fern as long as he could. Why is this dialogue so great? Because during a previous exchange, Swankie said that she supports euthanasia to the point where she would do it to herself. That's right: A person picked a side in a highly debated topic but still has enough empathy to look at things from the other side in order to make another person feel better. Is there anything in this movie that doesn't work? Well, there are too many cuts during the scenes where there's nothing happening but a conversation. I'm sure it was done for pacing reasons, since it's not a very eventful plot, but it's still excessive. However, it's not bad enough to overshadow other artistic and technical aspects. Besides, editor/producer/writer/director Chloé Zhao redeems herself with the immersive montages and with the clever ways in which she ends a scene and starts the next one. She throws viewers in the middle of a situation with enough hints for us understand what's going on and to figure out how much time has passed. Honestly, I didn't want the movie to end. 10/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog.Lady seemed kinda crazy to me. She's got a sister who lives in a good neighborhood. Who says she can stay with them in her own bedroom. But she rather live in her old beat up van pooing in a bucket. She's got a boyfriend who's living with his son, who's apparently well off. He's got a big house, they said they could stay with them. She had her own corner bedroom with windows on two walls. And a guest house they said she could stay in. But no, she rather live in her van pooing in a bucket. This movie is extremely slow. Large portions of time with nobody talking. And it's getting all kinds of accolades for good cinematography. The cinematography might be good. But the scenery is ugly. Desolate, barren, grey desert. 3/10 for me. |
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Post by Vits on Jun 1, 2021 21:12:22 GMT
Lady seemed kinda crazy to me. She's got a sister who lives in a good neighborhood. Who says she can stay with them in her own bedroom. But she rather live in her old beat up van pooing in a bucket. She's got a boyfriend who's living with his son, who's apparently well off. He's got a big house, they said they could stay with them. She had her own corner bedroom with windows on two walls. And a guest house they said she could stay in. But no, she rather live in her van pooing in a bucket. The movie never tries to convince the viewer that this is the right lifestyle, though. This movie is extremely slow. Large portions of time with nobody talking. Well, yes. They employ visual language. The cinematography might be good. But the scenery is ugly. Desolate, barren, grey desert. Cinematography is good when it makes an ugly scenery look pretty. Besides, it's not all grey. There are other earth tones.
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Post by movieliker on Jun 1, 2021 21:49:38 GMT
Lady seemed kinda crazy to me. She's got a sister who lives in a good neighborhood. Who says she can stay with them in her own bedroom. But she rather live in her old beat up van pooing in a bucket. She's got a boyfriend who's living with his son, who's apparently well off. He's got a big house, they said they could stay with them. She had her own corner bedroom with windows on two walls. And a guest house they said she could stay in. But no, she rather live in her van pooing in a bucket. The movie never tries to convince the viewer that this is the right lifestyle, though. This movie is extremely slow. Large portions of time with nobody talking. Well, yes. They employ visual language. The cinematography might be good. But the scenery is ugly. Desolate, barren, grey desert. Cinematography is good when it makes an ugly scenery look pretty. Besides, it's not all grey. There are other earth tones. I thought it was boring and slow. I get it. She likes being independent. She likes working (off and on part time jobs). She likes the camaraderie of the nomad population. And she had to deal with coming to grips with the death of her husband. But who wants to watch Francis McDormand walking, driving, and staring off into the distance alone for hours on end? |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jun 2, 2021 21:45:49 GMT
Large portions of time with nobody talking. 3/10 for me. That's a good thing, most films have way too much dialogue, at least for my tastes.
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Post by movieliker on Jun 2, 2021 21:59:44 GMT
Large portions of time with nobody talking. 3/10 for me. That's a good thing, most films have way too much dialogue, at least for my tastes. Then you'll like this movie. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 0:09:51 GMT
I’ve been meaning to see it, but I am so sick of modern Hollywood movies that look and feel like indie films. Not sure if that applies to this one, but it sure looks like it based on the trailers.
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Post by Nora on Jun 18, 2021 20:46:49 GMT
I’ve been meaning to see it, but I am so sick of modern Hollywood movies that look and feel like indie films. Not sure if that applies to this one, but it sure looks like it based on the trailers. I walked out after about 45 minutes. Couldnt take it anymore. The movie is about living life the way one wants to - so I took its advice and walked out to spend my time better. Extremelly slow with not enough emotional connecticity from what I saw. And I dont mind slow meditative movie. I LOVED a Ghost Story for example. But this was just such a downer that it made it insufferable for me. didnt feel that special, made me think very few people will watch twice. Plus the amount of non actors (most people there I think) bugged me. Felt like a boring documentary. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 21:42:57 GMT
I’ve been meaning to see it, but I am so sick of modern Hollywood movies that look and feel like indie films. Not sure if that applies to this one, but it sure looks like it based on the trailers. I walked out after about 45 minutes. Couldnt take it anymore. The movie is about living life the way one wants to - so I took its advice and walked out to spend my time better. Extremelly slow with not enough emotional connecticity from what I saw. And I dont mind slow meditative movie. I LOVED a Ghost Story for example. But this was just such a downer that it made it insufferable for me. didnt feel that special, made me think very few people will watch twice. Plus the amount of non actors (most people there I think) bugged me. Felt like a boring documentary. I can’t comment specifically on this movie, but this is how I feel about so many modern movies that get high praise. Pretentious is the word that describes most of them. I can appreciate “artsy” dramas. I love character studies and slow burns, but so many Oscar winners just lack substance in my opinion. Shape of Water and The Revenant come to mind.
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Post by Nora on Jun 18, 2021 23:27:51 GMT
I walked out after about 45 minutes. Couldnt take it anymore. The movie is about living life the way one wants to - so I took its advice and walked out to spend my time better. Extremelly slow with not enough emotional connecticity from what I saw. And I dont mind slow meditative movie. I LOVED a Ghost Story for example. But this was just such a downer that it made it insufferable for me. didnt feel that special, made me think very few people will watch twice. Plus the amount of non actors (most people there I think) bugged me. Felt like a boring documentary. I can’t comment specifically on this movie, but this is how I feel about so many modern movies that get high praise. Pretentious is the word that describes most of them. I can appreciate “artsy” dramas. I love character studies and slow burns, but so many Oscar winners just lack substance in my opinion. Shape of Water and The Revenant come to mind. oh heah I walked out of shape of water too but this is Much Much slower and less interesting. it felt too “made for the critics/oscars”. |
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Post by movieliker on Jun 19, 2021 15:03:11 GMT
I can’t comment specifically on this movie, but this is how I feel about so many modern movies that get high praise. Pretentious is the word that describes most of them. I can appreciate “artsy” dramas. I love character studies and slow burns, but so many Oscar winners just lack substance in my opinion. Shape of Water and The Revenant come to mind. oh heah I walked out of shape of water too but this is Much Much slower and less interesting. it felt too “made for the critics/oscars”. It seemed like the movie spent a lot of time filming her doing nothing, walking around and sitting around. No talking. No music. No attractive scenery. Even spending time with other people where nobody talks or does anything. |
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Post by movieliker on Jun 19, 2021 15:06:43 GMT
I walked out after about 45 minutes. Couldnt take it anymore. The movie is about living life the way one wants to - so I took its advice and walked out to spend my time better. Extremelly slow with not enough emotional connecticity from what I saw. And I dont mind slow meditative movie. I LOVED a Ghost Story for example. But this was just such a downer that it made it insufferable for me. didnt feel that special, made me think very few people will watch twice. Plus the amount of non actors (most people there I think) bugged me. Felt like a boring documentary. I can’t comment specifically on this movie, but this is how I feel about so many modern movies that get high praise. Pretentious is the word that describes most of them. I can appreciate “artsy” dramas. I love character studies and slow burns, but so many Oscar winners just lack substance in my opinion. Shape of Water and The Revenant come to mind. Whether you liked them or not, Shape of Water and The Revenant were about something. And stuff happened. This movie just watches a woman doing nothing, forever. |
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