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Post by Skaathar on May 5, 2021 20:39:59 GMT
Apparently, Dr. Strange was set to appear in the final episode of Wandavision. This was confirmed by Feige himself. Rumor has it that the plan was for Wanda to go into full villain mode towards the end, at which point Dr. Strange steps in and has a showdown with her. This would have been a direct lead-in to the multiverse of madness movie where Wanda is the villain of the movie. The weird commercials that were being shown throughout the series were supposedly cries for help being sent by Wanda to Dr. Strange and vice versa. Here's the quote from Feige on why they eventually decided to remove Dr. Strange from Wandavision: "Some people might say, ‘Oh, it would’ve been so cool to see Dr. Strange,’ - But it would have taken away from Wanda, which is what we didn’t want to do. We didn’t want the end of the show to be commoditized to go to the next movie — here’s the white guy, ‘Let me show you how power works.’””So instead of having the white guy explain to Wanda how her powers worked, they had Agatha be the one to explain it instead. Then they changed it up so that Wanda has a change of heart at the end instead of going full villain. Apparently this meant massive rewrites on both Wandavision and the Multiverse of Madness. This might explain why that final episode seemed so underwhelming and inconsistent with the rest of the show. Here's a few of the articles that talk about this: www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/kevin-feige-reveal-dr-strange-written-out-wandavision-1164455/www.cnn.com/2021/05/04/entertainment/dr-strange-wandavision-trnd/index.htmlwww.cnet.com/news/doctor-strange-cameo-cut-from-wandavision-to-avoid-white-guy-saving-the-day/I'm not sure how exactly that finale would have played out with Dr. Strange in the mix. My theory is that Dr. Strange would have lost the fight to Wanda, further solidifying the fact that Wanda is more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme, but that Dr. Strange would have been able to do enough to break through to Wanda for her to relinquish her hold on the town and then just leave. So Dr. Strange saves the town without being able to take down Wanda, which leaves room for what happens in Multiverse of Madness.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 5, 2021 20:45:02 GMT
I am personally glad that they did not put him in the final.
But if the reason they did not put him in the final is because he is white, well that is just stupid.
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Post by Skaathar on May 5, 2021 20:46:27 GMT
I am personally glad that they did not put him in the final. But if the reason they did not put him in the final is because he is white, well that is just stupid. Well, not just white but white GUY, since Agatha is also white.
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Post by Power Ranger on May 6, 2021 12:28:38 GMT
They could have used Tulsa Swinton (The Ancient One).
But if this is true, then Marvel has indeed gone woke and I wonder what their rabid fans think about the brand now that it is misandrist and racist?
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Post by Jason143 on May 6, 2021 15:27:50 GMT
I saw this pop up in my feed too and thought it was usual click bait, but then read the actual quote from Feige himself and it did leave me pretty shocked. Imagine the backlash if he had flippantly said, oh and here comes the black guy to save the day. If its not ok to bring up the race of one group then why is it acceptable to bring up the one he did?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 17:15:45 GMT
I wonder if they’ll have the same problem with Captain Marvel showing up in the end of Ms Marvel.
But honestly these shows are basically just prequels/prologues for upcoming movies. The endings are predetermined by how they need to tie into the movie they set up.
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Post by Archelaus on May 6, 2021 17:30:19 GMT
I knew WandaVision was going to have some sort of tie-in with Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. By episode 4, it sure felt like Wanda was being established as a new antagonist. I also read some theories that this series would help to introduce the Mutants. In the end, I'm glad they kept the focus on Wanda grieving from the aftermath of Thanos's Snap.
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Post by Skaathar on May 6, 2021 17:30:32 GMT
They could have used Tulsa Swinton (The Ancient One). But if this is true, then Marvel has indeed gone woke and I wonder what their rabid fans think about the brand now that it is misandrist and racist? I'm a pretty hardcore MCU fan (though I don't consider myself rabid) but I admit even I get turned off by this stuff. And I'm not even right-leaning.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on May 6, 2021 17:36:25 GMT
They could have used Tulsa Swinton (The Ancient One). But if this is true, then Marvel has indeed gone woke and I wonder what their rabid fans think about the brand now that it is misandrist and racist? Are the the same "rabid fans" who review bombed Captain Marvel because they thought Marvel was "catering to feminists" by making one female-led movie after nearly a decade of male-led movies?
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Post by Skaathar on May 6, 2021 17:39:38 GMT
They could have used Tulsa Swinton (The Ancient One). But if this is true, then Marvel has indeed gone woke and I wonder what their rabid fans think about the brand now that it is misandrist and racist? Are the the same "rabid fans" who review bombed Captain Marvel because they thought Marvel was "catering to feminists" by making one female-led movie after nearly a decade of male-led movies? Let's not exaggerate here. We all know that the reason those rabid fans targeted Captain Marvel wasn't because it was Marvel making "one female-led movie after nearly a decade of male-led movies".
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Post by Downey on May 7, 2021 10:07:37 GMT
They could have used Tulsa Swinton (The Ancient One). But if this is true, then Marvel has indeed gone woke and I wonder what their rabid fans think about the brand now that it is misandrist and racist? Tilda Swinton is dead in Doctor Strange.
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Post by Power Ranger on May 7, 2021 10:31:49 GMT
They could have used Tulsa Swinton (The Ancient One). But if this is true, then Marvel has indeed gone woke and I wonder what their rabid fans think about the brand now that it is misandrist and racist? Tilda Swinton is dead in Doctor Strange. Oh, right.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 7, 2021 11:54:55 GMT
Interesting that they decided to avoid her going full villain; or at least postpone it to her next appearance. Would've been cool to see Strange, but I get why they did it.
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 7, 2021 15:03:03 GMT
Ha take that, stupid white men.
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Post by Skaathar on May 7, 2021 15:25:12 GMT
Interesting that they decided to avoid her going full villain; or at least postpone it to her next appearance. Would've been cool to see Strange, but I get why they did it. Considering how disappointing that final episode was, I'd say they might not have made the right move.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 23:15:16 GMT
Copy and pasted my reply from a similar thread:
I will add this because of that new info regarding that rumor:
That makes it even more woke as it would fit the story organically
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Post by Power Ranger on May 9, 2021 5:22:44 GMT
Interesting that they decided to avoid her going full villain; or at least postpone it to her next appearance. Would've been cool to see Strange, but I get why they did it. They prioritised political correctness over plot. It’s disgraceful.
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Post by Power Ranger on May 9, 2021 5:26:53 GMT
They could have used Tulsa Swinton (The Ancient One). But if this is true, then Marvel has indeed gone woke and I wonder what their rabid fans think about the brand now that it is misandrist and racist? Probably nothing, because they're not all butthurt whiteys who get upset if a white man is not the hero of the piece. I’m not someone who will ‘get upset if a white man is not the hero of the piece’, I simply don’t want plot to be compromised by radical politics.
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Post by Power Ranger on May 9, 2021 5:40:04 GMT
I’m not someone who will ‘get upset if a white man is not the hero of the piece’, I simply don’t want plot to be compromised by radical politics. Would you be upset if the only white man in the movie is the villain? Not necessarily. I’m not as race obsessed as you are apparently. I’d prefer to see Dr Strange instead of Agatha fucking Harkness and it’s because I’m a misogynist and a racist? WandaVision sucked and could do with all the help it could get. Changes to the original script were apparently made due to radical politics and you support this why?
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 9, 2021 6:16:56 GMT
I hated the way they pussed out in the last episode on Wanda's villainy, especially when they had Agent Stalleaune handwave what was pretty unforgivable stuff. This explains a lot and confirms what I kind of suspected were the motives. `Meh.
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