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Post by janntosh on May 12, 2021 14:26:38 GMT
the 3rd Mission Impossible movie which came out 6 years after the second movie and went through several directors (including David Fincher who was actually flat out attached to the movie at one point). They eventually settled on JJ Abrams who made his feature film directorial debut after shepherding TV shows like Lost and Alias. The film is entertaining and better than the second movie overall but kind of suffers from a TV movie look (no doubt due to the director's origins) and a weak climax. Still there are some great action scenes and Philip Seymour Hoffman makes for a great villain and the scene where he is counting down to potentially kill Ethan's girlfriend is genuinely intense. The film actually wasn't successful at the box office and this was blamed on Tom Cruise's recent antics on the Oprah Show and other media appearances turning people off him. It looked like the end of the franchise but 5 years later Cruise used a fourth Mission Impossible as a "comeback" vehicle which was a critical and commercial success and the rest is history  |
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Post by politicidal on May 12, 2021 14:36:48 GMT
7/10. I like it better than the first two and it kind of helped set the style for the next three films which were all awesome. Reading up on what Joe Carnahan had in mind when he was attached to it, I will admit that does sound a little edgier:
"According to Carnahan in an interview on joblo.com:Danny [Gilroy] and I wrote a script about private military and going into Africa and assassinating this West African premier and throwing this country into chaos. Ken Branagh was gonna play this guy based on Timothy Spicer, who was an SAS colonel, British army. And he retires and he's a billionaire two years later, because he puts his private military together and they go into Sierra Leone and they go, "You got a problem with this rebel uprising? Will crush 'em.' 15% of the copper mines, 10% of the diamond trade, etc."
We were so far ahead of the curve, with private military. [...] But we had it where it was geopolitical and really sharp. It would have been something else, dude."
Sidenote, apparently Branagh's character was supposed to be based off Timothy McVeigh. Not sure where they got Spicer from.
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Post by mikef6 on May 12, 2021 14:51:32 GMT
2021 is also the 55th anniversary of the REAL Mission: Impossible: the classic TV series premiered on September 17, 1966.  |
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Post by kolchak92 on May 12, 2021 15:23:44 GMT
Enjoyed III a lot, it felt the closest to the television series, on which the movies are ostensibly based.
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 13, 2021 2:00:48 GMT
Pretty decent. Probably my favorite Abrams movie, though I’m not the biggest fan of him as many of you know.
The last three installments are all better, though.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 13, 2021 2:20:14 GMT
It doesn't feel like 15 years-I plan to watch it again sometime soon.
I remember finding it entertaining but dumb-watching it again I saw it was really dumb.
I like the way he breaks into the Chinese lab and comes out from a high window-I dont mind that kind of thing.
But it has two really stupid pieces of dialogue that makes me want to throw something at Tom Cruise and his wife.
First, he knows he has a very very short window to zap the device in his head and yet he has her pause so he can say "I love you." It feels like a comedy skit moment.
Secondly, his wife asks him at the end who he works for and he says: IMF-the Impossible Mission Force.
She says
"Oh shut up."
She doesn't believe him?
After all they went through--and standing in a remote village of China, she is skeptical about the name?
**I have yet to see an episode of the original.
I wanted to check it out sometime too.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on May 13, 2021 5:43:05 GMT
My favorite of the series.
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Post by Downey on May 13, 2021 6:37:58 GMT
7/10. I like it better than the first two and it kind of helped set the style for the next three films which were all awesome. Reading up on what Joe Carnahan had in mind when he was attached to it, I will admit that does sound a little edgier: "According to Carnahan in an interview on joblo.com:Danny [Gilroy] and I wrote a script about private military and going into Africa and assassinating this West African premier and throwing this country into chaos. Ken Branagh was gonna play this guy based on Timothy Spicer, who was an SAS colonel, British army. And he retires and he's a billionaire two years later, because he puts his private military together and they go into Sierra Leone and they go, "You got a problem with this rebel uprising? Will crush 'em.' 15% of the copper mines, 10% of the diamond trade, etc." We were so far ahead of the curve, with private military. [...] But we had it where it was geopolitical and really sharp. It would have been something else, dude." Sidenote, apparently Branagh's character was supposed to be based off Timothy McVeigh. Not sure where they got Spicer from. I'm confused by what you've posted? What has that admittedly exciting story got to do with Mission Impossible 3? It's like an uncle going on about an exciting spaceship he's building in his head when talking about buying essentials for a party that's a couple of hours before it starts, it's a cool idea but what is the relevance? we need to buy stuff now... |
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Post by Winter_King on May 13, 2021 11:26:04 GMT
I also think it's better than the first two but clearly overshadowed by the following entries of the franchise.
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Post by janntosh on May 14, 2021 15:02:05 GMT
I also think it's better than the first two but clearly overshadowed by the following entries of the franchise. Will not allow this slander of Mission Impossible 1 |
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Post by vegalyra on May 14, 2021 17:21:23 GMT
7/10. I like it better than the first two and it kind of helped set the style for the next three films which were all awesome. Reading up on what Joe Carnahan had in mind when he was attached to it, I will admit that does sound a little edgier: "According to Carnahan in an interview on joblo.com:Danny [Gilroy] and I wrote a script about private military and going into Africa and assassinating this West African premier and throwing this country into chaos. Ken Branagh was gonna play this guy based on Timothy Spicer, who was an SAS colonel, British army. And he retires and he's a billionaire two years later, because he puts his private military together and they go into Sierra Leone and they go, "You got a problem with this rebel uprising? Will crush 'em.' 15% of the copper mines, 10% of the diamond trade, etc." We were so far ahead of the curve, with private military. [...] But we had it where it was geopolitical and really sharp. It would have been something else, dude." Sidenote, apparently Branagh's character was supposed to be based off Timothy McVeigh. Not sure where they got Spicer from. I'd be interested in that proposed script. Almost reminds me of some of the old mercenary films of the 1960's thru 1980's like Dark of the Sun and Wild Geese. Sounds like it's a film that would still be relevant today in all honesty.
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Post by mikef6 on May 14, 2021 17:28:55 GMT
It doesn't feel like 15 years-I plan to watch it again sometime soon. I remember finding it entertaining but dumb-watching it again I saw it was really dumb. I like the way he breaks into the Chinese lab and comes out from a high window-I dont mind that kind of thing. But it has two really stupid pieces of dialogue that makes me want to throw something at Tom Cruise and his wife. First, he knows he has a very very short window to zap the device in his head and yet he has her pause so he can say "I love you." It feels like a comedy skit moment. Secondly, his wife asks him at the end who he works for and he says: IMF-the Impossible Mission Force. She says "Oh shut up." She doesn't believe him? After all they went through--and standing in a remote village of China, she is skeptical about the name? **I have yet to see an episode of the original. I wanted to check it out sometime too. The original TV series stories are more like con man/caper adventures than frantic action. Jim Phelps gets his assignment from the famous self-destructive tape. Then, with his crew, they drop some hints about their plan but we who are watching have to learn what the plan is as it goes along. I recently watched an episode of the late 1980s reboot that brought back Peter Graves as Jim Phelps. In that episode, they had Phelps, in the middle of their mission, say things like, "This next part is where we replace the contents of the boxes." In the '60s-'70s series, that would not have been said. We would have just seen them go through the replacement and learn for ourselves. The second and third seasons are usually reckoned the best but there are excellent stories throughout the 7-season run.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 14, 2021 17:35:15 GMT
The original TV series stories are more like con man/caper adventures than frantic action. Jim Phelps gets his assignment from the famous self-destructive tape. Then, with his crew, they drop some hints about their plan but we who are watching have to learn what the plan is as it goes along. I recently watched an episode of the late 1980s reboot that brought back Peter Graves as Jim Phelps. In that episode, they had Phelps, in the middle of their mission, say things like, "This next part is where we replace the contents of the boxes." In the '60s-'70s series, that would not have been said. We would have just seen them go through the replacement and learn for ourselves. The second and third seasons are usually reckoned the best but there are excellent stories throughout the 7-season run. I didnt even know they did a new series in the 80s. 7 seasons is a long time for a show. I don't know how I never saw it but I guess it wasn't kid-friendly enough. No sci-fi or monsters. I watched Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea...
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Post by politicidal on May 14, 2021 18:31:35 GMT
7/10. I like it better than the first two and it kind of helped set the style for the next three films which were all awesome. Reading up on what Joe Carnahan had in mind when he was attached to it, I will admit that does sound a little edgier: "According to Carnahan in an interview on joblo.com:Danny [Gilroy] and I wrote a script about private military and going into Africa and assassinating this West African premier and throwing this country into chaos. Ken Branagh was gonna play this guy based on Timothy Spicer, who was an SAS colonel, British army. And he retires and he's a billionaire two years later, because he puts his private military together and they go into Sierra Leone and they go, "You got a problem with this rebel uprising? Will crush 'em.' 15% of the copper mines, 10% of the diamond trade, etc." We were so far ahead of the curve, with private military. [...] But we had it where it was geopolitical and really sharp. It would have been something else, dude." Sidenote, apparently Branagh's character was supposed to be based off Timothy McVeigh. Not sure where they got Spicer from. I'd be interested in that proposed script. Almost reminds me of some of the old mercenary films of the 1960's thru 1980's like Dark of the Sun and Wild Geese. Sounds like it's a film that would still be relevant today in all honesty. Eh they'll probably remake The Wild Geese soon enough anyway.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 14, 2021 18:51:06 GMT
The first installment I saw in the theater.
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Post by Downey on May 14, 2021 19:27:40 GMT
I'd be interested in that proposed script. Almost reminds me of some of the old mercenary films of the 1960's thru 1980's like Dark of the Sun and Wild Geese. Sounds like it's a film that would still be relevant today in all honesty. Eh they'll probably remake The Wild Geese soon enough anyway. Hi Politicidal, you still haven't answered my question to you earlier on this thread. What has the Kenneth Branagh storyline got to do with mission Impossible 3? |
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Post by politicidal on May 14, 2021 19:38:51 GMT
Eh they'll probably remake The Wild Geese soon enough anyway. Hi Politicidal, you still haven't answered my question to you earlier on this thread. What has the Kenneth Branagh storyline got to do with mission Impossible 3? It was a piece of trivia related to the film's development. I found it interesting and felt like sharing it. It's what people on this site aside from you typically do.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 15, 2021 5:56:32 GMT
I watched it again just now.
The villain is good--creepy guy--and Simon Pegg is funny. I have only seen him in this--he's good. You can tell he's got a lot going on upstairs. He'd fit into 50s-70s UK comedy easily.
It is definitely exciting but it is a new level of dumb. I forgot about the wife being told to use the gun--that's just ridiculous. Comical.
Cruise is way too much of a superman--he never stops for a pause.
The very last shot shows a little Chinese kid with a dog. What a coincidence.
Also it seemed like a strategic use of hair rinse was practiced in that rural section of Shanghai.
They had a tone of red that would appear mid shot in the crowd scenes.
I think the dialogue got too cute at times.
Why did the "secret villain" ask about that stupid message from Keri Russell? At that point it didn't matter.
I haven't seen 4---onward.
I hated the second one.
I think the first is the best of the 3. As a movie.
I want to check the forth out though. Even though I am not a Cruise fan.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 15, 2021 15:58:28 GMT
Another stupid scene.
When they kidnap the guy in the Vatican washroom (that is a nice-looking washroom btw) and the bodyguard comes in.
All he had to do was give him a look and way "what you want?" his voice doesn't have to be perfect---unlikely the guy is going to question his voice especially if he mumbles. Or he could have waved him away.
Or they could have knocked him out too. What difference would it make? Let's say Cruise goes back to the interpreter without the bodyguard--who is going to care?
He meets the agent-they go out to her car--and same thing happens.
Much ado about nothing.
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