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Post by Popeye Doyle on May 17, 2021 11:53:19 GMT
Released 20 years ago this month. Yeah, it’s not very good. The dynamic duo of Bay and Bruckheimer were not the right team for a historical drama. It at least looks and sounds great. A director’s cut was released with some more explicit violence.
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Post by vegalyra on May 17, 2021 13:33:01 GMT
I always liked it even though it was pretty cheesy. Especially the fact that Ben Afflecks character would go from Eagle Squadron to Pearl Harbor to Doolittles Raiders. Yeah he was a hot shot pilot in a P40 fighter but I doubt they’d put him on a B25 bomber in which he had zero flight time in. The actual attack sequence was well done on Pearl, it almost was like being there. I remember in the early days of bluray it was one of the reference quality discs to show off the new tech. Tora Tora Tora is still the definitive Pearl Harbor film.
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Post by politicidal on May 17, 2021 14:05:30 GMT
It's not a good film but I don't hate it as much as I used to. I get that it was made as a Titanic cash-in but there was no need for it to be three hours long. The three leads are kind of annoying. The key attack sequence is very well done with exceptional visual effects. And some of the supporting cast I did like, particularly Cuba Gooding Jr. Why wasn't he the main character?
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 17, 2021 14:14:02 GMT
I re-watched it last year, for the first time since seeing it on the big screen when it came out.
Other than the spectacular sequence of the Japanese attack, it is not a very good movie.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 17, 2021 14:38:52 GMT
Awful movie
Filled with historical inaccuracies.
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Post by mattgarth on May 17, 2021 15:07:21 GMT
It lost me when hotshot pilot Affleck proclaims:
"Just get me up in a plane!"
(yep -- then the attack will soon be over)
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Post by bravomailer on May 17, 2021 15:31:36 GMT
It lost me when hotshot pilot Affleck proclaims: "Just get me up in a plane!" (yep -- then the attack will soon be over) Remember I mentioned a guy I knew who was at Pork Chop Hill? He was fishing in Pearl Harbor the day of the attack.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 17, 2021 16:56:09 GMT
I've always felt there was a much better film in there if you rearranged some scenes, cut out a few, and reworked it into a straight up war movie.
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Post by politicidal on May 17, 2021 16:58:01 GMT
I've always felt there was a much better film in there if you rearranged some scenes, cut out a few, and reworked it into a straight up war movie. Yeah, it's weird they tried to model it after Titanic instead of something else like Saving Private Ryan.
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Post by bravomailer on May 17, 2021 17:07:24 GMT
One of the goofs is the use of "Army Air Corps," though that name was dropped several months before the attack and "United States Army Air Forces" was adopted"
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Post by Vits on May 17, 2021 21:58:26 GMT
3/10
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Post by ck100 on May 17, 2021 22:19:59 GMT
Never seen it, but I know it was trying to duplicate the success of Titanic with its love story, length, etc.
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Post by Downey on May 17, 2021 22:25:31 GMT
It's not a good film but I don't hate it as much as I used to. I get that it was made as a Titanic cash-in but there was no need for it to be three hours long. The three leads are kind of annoying. The key attack sequence is very well done with exceptional visual effects. And some of the supporting cast I did like, particularly Cuba Gooding Jr. Why wasn't he the main character? Why wasn't Cuba Gooding Jr made the lead over Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett??? Seriously you have to ask that? |
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Post by vegalyra on May 17, 2021 23:34:27 GMT
I miss you more then Michael Bay missed the mark
When he made Pearl Harbor
I miss you more than that movie missed the point
And that’s an awful lot girl
And now, now you’ve gone away
And all I’m trying to say is
Pearl Harbor sucked, and I miss you
I need u like Ben Affleck needs acting school
He was terrible in that film
I need u like Cuba Gooding needed a bigger part
He’s way better than Ben Affleck
And now all I can think about is your smile
and that sh*tty movie too
Pearl Harbor sucked and I miss you
Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies?
I guess Pearl Harbor sucked
Just a little bit more than I miss you
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 18, 2021 0:35:12 GMT
It wanted so badly to be Saving Private Ryan has sex with Titanic.
Needless to say, it's serviceable enough yet also forgettable enough.
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Post by politicidal on May 18, 2021 0:36:23 GMT
It's not a good film but I don't hate it as much as I used to. I get that it was made as a Titanic cash-in but there was no need for it to be three hours long. The three leads are kind of annoying. The key attack sequence is very well done with exceptional visual effects. And some of the supporting cast I did like, particularly Cuba Gooding Jr. Why wasn't he the main character? Why wasn't Cuba Gooding Jr made the lead over Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett??? Seriously you have to ask that? They could had trimmed down the bloat by cutting both Hartnett and Affleck from the movie and make it from Gooding’s perspective. He already did a Naval drama the year prior with Men of Honor. |
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Post by Downey on May 18, 2021 1:43:58 GMT
Why wasn't Cuba Gooding Jr made the lead over Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett??? Seriously you have to ask that? They could had trimmed down the bloat by cutting both Hartnett and Affleck from the movie and make it from Gooding’s perspective. He already did a Naval drama the year prior with Men of Honor. How about, no. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 18, 2021 6:52:46 GMT
I've always felt there was a much better film in there if you rearranged some scenes, cut out a few, and reworked it into a straight up war movie. Yeah, it's weird they tried to model it after Titanic instead of something else like Saving Private Ryan. I would say it is because of Shakespeare in Love winning Best Picture over Saving Private Ryan. Harvey Weinstein pulled every trick in the book to get Academy voters to choose Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan for the award, going as far as to talk about how brutal various sequences were for Saving Private Ryan, that Best Picture should probably go with the more universally appealing film, etc. And in the end those efforts worked and Shakespeare In Love took home the gold that night. It comes as no surprise that Disney, which owned Miramax as well as Dimension Films at that point, wanted to see if they could combine the impact of both stories into one package and offered the female lead to Gwyneth Paltrow, who in turn got her then boyfriend Ben Affleck to sign on opposite of her. I would be curious what Ben Affleck would have done if he were directing such a film these days himself, and what Michael Bay would've approached it like if the romantic angle wasn't so set either, maybe like a 13 Hours? Not considered a great and outstanding movie either, but took its subject matter more seriously and didn't hold back on content.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 18, 2021 6:55:35 GMT
It's not a good film but I don't hate it as much as I used to. I get that it was made as a Titanic cash-in but there was no need for it to be three hours long. The three leads are kind of annoying. The key attack sequence is very well done with exceptional visual effects. And some of the supporting cast I did like, particularly Cuba Gooding Jr. Why wasn't he the main character? Why wasn't Cuba Gooding Jr made the lead over Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett??? Seriously you have to ask that? I mean...Gooding, Jr. was also pretty big at the time.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 18, 2021 7:00:25 GMT
I miss you more then Michael Bay missed the mark When he made Pearl Harbor I miss you more than that movie missed the point And that’s an awful lot girl And now, now you’ve gone away And all I’m trying to say is Pearl Harbor sucked, and I miss you I need u like Ben Affleck needs acting school
He was terrible in that film
I need u like Cuba Gooding needed a bigger part
He’s way better than Ben AffleckAnd now all I can think about is your smile and that sh*tty movie too Pearl Harbor sucked and I miss you Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies? I guess Pearl Harbor sucked Just a little bit more than I miss you The funny thing is even you don't agree about the movie's quality the song still works effectively on other levels, Parker and Stone are able to slam dunk so much commentary into what are the on the surface so juvenile but have such complexity. Even the worst South Park gag has layers upon layers.
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