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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 15:57:26 GMT
Good point, who knows if there were Raps on that ship? But obviously those cocoons were important to them (so they'll be p.o.'d), and also, such a spectacular explosion in the skies of LA for all to see does deliver a blow to their perceived invincibility. So, I'd expect major military retaliation with drone attacks all over LA, and of course we might still see the reaction in the next episode but I thought that there was surprisingly little and people were a bit nonchalant about it. Given that the sabotage came from the labor camp I'd expect the camp to be blown to smithereens shortly after the ship being brought down.
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Post by chrisjdel on Feb 26, 2017 1:37:25 GMT
Good point, who knows if there were Raps on that ship? But obviously those cocoons were important to them (so they'll be p.o.'d), and also, such a spectacular explosion in the skies of LA for all to see does deliver a blow to their perceived invincibility. So, I'd expect major military retaliation with drone attacks all over LA, and of course we might still see the reaction in the next episode but I thought that there was surprisingly little and people were a bit nonchalant about it. Given that the sabotage came from the labor camp I'd expect the camp to be blown to smithereens shortly after the ship being brought down. The Raps are going to want to know how this happened, so they can adjust their security procedures to keep it from happening again. Obliterating a crime scene usually isn't the best way to go about investigating the crime. If none of them were killed then this falls under the heading of a slight setback. Yes, they'll have to do something to show the people of LA they're not losing control. Random attacks on the population tend to suggest exactly the opposite though. We'll probably see an even tougher crackdown on the resistance, with perhaps some Rap tech coming into play. They may reinstate nighttime curfews (which will further limit Broussard's ability to move around the city). Stuff like that. And they'll keep digging until they get to the bottom of what happened, and who's responsible. That's why I think Snyder will throw Nolan to the wolves. He made a visit that's going to look mighty suspicious in retrospect, demanding access to the very same facility the terrorist got into to smuggle herself on board. Now Snyder's key card is missing. Who could've taken it? More likely someone who was invited into his office than an inmate in the camp. Right? Then you have that incident where Homeland's security routines detected illegal copying of files in Nolan's home. They were copied to an external device which Nolan will (conveniently) not be able to produce. And he's such a sleazeball, you know he's got other stuff on the side like his ex-wife did that could get him in trouble. Put it all together and he starts to look like a resistance mole, feeding intelligence to them and helping their operatives infiltrate secure facilities. I wouldn't buy a used car from a guy like Nolan. Somehow I doubt Will's partner is going to believe anything he says.
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Post by chrisjdel on Feb 26, 2017 2:01:33 GMT
Good point, who knows if there were Raps on that ship? But obviously those cocoons were important to them (so they'll be p.o.'d), and also, such a spectacular explosion in the skies of LA for all to see does deliver a blow to their perceived invincibility. So, I'd expect major military retaliation with drone attacks all over LA, and of course we might still see the reaction in the next episode but I thought that there was surprisingly little and people were a bit nonchalant about it. Given that the sabotage came from the labor camp I'd expect the camp to be blown to smithereens shortly after the ship being brought down. The Raps are going to want to know how this happened, so they can adjust their security procedures to keep it from happening again. Obliterating a crime scene usually isn't the best way to go about investigating the crime. If none of them were killed then this falls under the heading of a slight setback. Yes, they'll have to do something to show the people of LA they're not losing control. Random attacks on the population tend to suggest exactly the opposite though. We'll probably see an even tougher crackdown on the resistance, with perhaps some Rap tech coming into play. They may reinstate nighttime curfews (which will further limit Broussard's ability to move around the city). Stuff like that. And they'll keep digging until they get to the bottom of what happened, and who's responsible. That's why I think Snyder will throw Nolan to the wolves. He made a visit that's going to look mighty suspicious in retrospect, demanding access to the very same facility the terrorist got into to smuggle herself on board. Now Snyder's key card is missing. Who could've taken it? More likely someone who was invited into his office than an inmate in the camp. Right? Then you have that incident where Homeland's security routines detected illegal copying of files in Nolan's home. They were copied to an external device which Nolan will (conveniently) not be able to produce. And he's such a sleazeball, you know he's got other stuff on the side like his ex-wife did that could get him in trouble. Put it all together and he starts to look like a resistance mole, feeding intelligence to them and helping their operatives infiltrate secure facilities. I wouldn't buy a used car from a guy like Nolan. Somehow I doubt Will's partner is going to believe anything he says. And push comes to shove, I can see Maddy turning on him to protect herself and her family (I think she knows damn well Katie stole the files).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 3:24:15 GMT
Your first paragraph: Chrisjdel, you are a better military strategist than I am, hehe. I didn't think of it the way you did and you are right!
Your second paragraph: yes, it seems like Nolan is on his way down. Also, Maddy exposed herself when she went to Katie's house and mentioned out loud that she had shown her the file, which is already bad. With the house being monitored, Maddie now is not looking good.
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Post by chrisjdel on Feb 26, 2017 4:44:03 GMT
Your first paragraph: Chrisjdel, you are a better military strategist than I am, hehe. I didn't think of it the way you did and you are right! Your second paragraph: yes, it seems like Nolan is on his way down. Also, Maddy exposed herself when she went to Katie's house and mentioned out loud that she had shown her the file, which is already bad. With the house being monitored, Maddie now is not looking good. They had authorization to access the files. Copying them may have been okay too, if they had a legitimate reason. It sounds like Homeland's security check was something like what your bank does when an unusually large amount of money is charged to your card. They call you on your cell to confirm it was indeed you making those charges. When Nolan and his staff had no clue about the files being copied, that was a red flag and they looked into it. Now they're going to be scrutinizing things even more closely. The aliens' master plan isn't in those files. Broussard's tech people made an extrapolation based on the figures to date. So the information itself won't be considered a high priority. From Homeland's point of view the resistance wouldn't know it had limited value until they actually got a look (and the encryption was there to prevent that) but if Nolan was the conduit who supplied it to them, that's a problem. What Maddie has to do now is play the loyal assistant, provide a few little details that would believably mean nothing to her but would raise even more red flags to the investigators. Maddy's the one who has been doing most of the work for the Greatest Day, arranging its public debut and "missionary work" for lack of a better term. Crazy loyal people like Lindsey know her well and will probably vouch for her. The fact that she, unlike her sister, actually hasn't been sneaking around and working with the resistance, means that any comprehensive review of her activities will reveal nothing but a loyal citizen of the Authority. She doesn't look guilty. Once they get the idea in their heads that Nolan is dirty, like any crooked politician type, evidence to reinforce that belief will turn up everywhere they look. I think he's going to emerge as the only logical explanation for how the Red Hand managed to get one of their people onto the Rap ship. Snyder was scapegoated for the incident at the end of last season but no one believes for a second he's disloyal. Turning rebel would be totally out of character for him. That conversation we see between Snyder and Bram on the preview is probably him letting the kid know he's busted; but in the interest of not having the whole camp population exterminated, he needs to say that he was on shift and saw Nolan escort a woman inside that building right before he left the camp. He didn't think anything of it at the time of course, but after the fact ...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 12:04:53 GMT
Oh wow, you could be writing the show, what you say makes a lot of sense. I look forward to the next episode to see if the writers will take the same path, which would be neat. Snyder is a much more interesting character than Nolan so it would be nice to see him appear to save the day, sink Nolan, and get out of that non-prestigious position and back into the core of things.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 4:09:03 GMT
Spectacular episode tonight, wow! This show is really, really good.
Our friend here was right that the spaceship that got blown up was just a transport drone with no Raps inside. And yes, they did wipe out the camp. He wasn't right on the Nolan angle, though.
Extremely tense, dark, suspenseful episode.
This show is rapidly evolving into a masterpiece.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 23:16:51 GMT
Episode 9 was a bit disappointing. Not as good as episode 8. It did make the story advance. The whole family is now clandestine and we know that there will be "the real war coming." Season 3 should be fabulous although I hope it is not too focused on getting the alien piece of tech from the Red Hand, but rather gets this step done sooner rather than later and moves on. But in terms of the episode 9 itself, it never felt very tense, I don't know why.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 15, 2017 14:14:22 GMT
There is a lot of heat building up between them very quickly. I can see will disposing of him rather violently– like strangling him or something. Or else there will be some twist and he will be an asset to the resistance. No way. Burke is a grade a asshole - been completely loyal to those in power. I think I did a fist pump when will stabbed him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:27:43 GMT
Or else there will be some twist and he will be an asset to the resistance. No way. Burke is a grade a asshole - been completely loyal to those in power. I think I did a fist pump when will stabbed him. Yes, I had that idea a bit earlier, then I dropped it in my mind as I saw where this character was going. I wonder when the female resistance fighter from beyond the wall says "that's why he was still talking" if it means she then put a mercy bullet through him. It wasn't shown if he survived the stabbing and her follow-up. I hope he is gone. But probably he isn't, the show will want him as an antagonist trying to chase the good guys down.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 15, 2017 19:48:35 GMT
No way. Burke is a grade a asshole - been completely loyal to those in power. I think I did a fist pump when will stabbed him. Yes, I had that idea a bit earlier, then I dropped it in my mind as I saw where this character was going. I wonder when the female resistance fighter from beyond the wall says "that's why he was still talking" if it means she then put a mercy bullet through him. It wasn't shown if he survived the stabbing and her follow-up. I hope he is gone. But probably he isn't, the show will want him as an antagonist trying to chase the good guys down. I would be surprised if they killed him off like that. I think if he is going to die, we are going to see it on screen and like you said it wasn't shown if he survived. They have done a really good job of making him extremely unlikable, so I think he's gonna get a definitive death when it happens. Glad to see Lindsay die by the way. This show is so intense and well-made. I know that I am repeating myself, but I just can't say it enough. I can't wait to see what happens to Madeleine, as well as wheel and his family.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 0:13:11 GMT
Yes, I had that idea a bit earlier, then I dropped it in my mind as I saw where this character was going. I wonder when the female resistance fighter from beyond the wall says "that's why he was still talking" if it means she then put a mercy bullet through him. It wasn't shown if he survived the stabbing and her follow-up. I hope he is gone. But probably he isn't, the show will want him as an antagonist trying to chase the good guys down. I would be surprised if they killed him off like that. I think if he is going to die, we are going to see it on screen and like you said it wasn't shown if he survived. They have done a really good job of making him extremely unlikable, so I think he's gonna get a definitive death when it happens. Glad to see Lindsay die by the way. This show is so intense and well-made. I know that I am repeating myself, but I just can't say it enough. I can't wait to see what happens to Madeleine, as well as wheel and his family. Interesting that we didn't see Burke at all in yesterday's episode. Of course he must be in a hospital, but still...
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 20, 2017 14:08:43 GMT
I would be surprised if they killed him off like that. I think if he is going to die, we are going to see it on screen and like you said it wasn't shown if he survived. They have done a really good job of making him extremely unlikable, so I think he's gonna get a definitive death when it happens. Glad to see Lindsay die by the way. This show is so intense and well-made. I know that I am repeating myself, but I just can't say it enough. I can't wait to see what happens to Madeleine, as well as wheel and his family. Interesting that we didn't see Burke at all in yesterday's episode. Of course he must be in a hospital, but still... I think it's still soon enough – if the episode was a couple weeks later and he wasn't even mentioned – that it's okay we didn't see him. I think at the very least he should be mentioned by next week though. Bram needs to be slapped, although I do think it is a very realistic portrayal of someone that age. He is stupid, but so are teenagers. Good tense stuff with Madison and Nolan this past week.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 27, 2017 5:27:15 GMT
Screw Bram actually.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 31, 2017 21:58:14 GMT
Haven't seen the latest episode yet, 10 is too late for this old man, but still living this show.
Bram going to his aunt's was kind of scummy. I am not a huge fan of Maddie, but no need to put her and her kid in harm's way.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 31, 2017 22:13:36 GMT
anyone have death predictions at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 23:54:50 GMT
Death predictions? Will and his family will survive. Snyder. Broussard; both will survive. The others, I don't know. The cute chick who has been fighting alongside the Resistance looks like cannon fodder.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 4, 2017 1:39:39 GMT
As long as Snyder and Broussard stay I'll watch, the two most fascinating characters here.
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 4, 2017 17:50:50 GMT
Death predictions? Will and his family will survive. Snyder. Broussard; both will survive. The others, I don't know. The cute chick who has been fighting alongside the Resistance looks like cannon fodder.Which one? The one who was a part of Broussard's team for the one who came in from outside the colony?
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Post by hi224 on Apr 4, 2017 18:38:09 GMT
i see it being canceled soon.
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