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Post by ck100 on May 22, 2021 20:56:35 GMT
For the sequels, Ethan Hunt is turned into a superhuman James Bond type of guy immune to injury and doesn't get a hair out of place.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 22, 2021 21:03:49 GMT
For the sequels, Ethan Hunt is turned into a superhuman James Bond type a guy immune to injury and doesn't get a hair out of place. They just become spoofs of themselves. Hunt is superhuman, the villains' plots never make any sense. Simon Pegg plays the human Jar Jar Binks. There's a scene where all he does is bump into a bunch of secret tech on a boat and make goofy faces. After that first flick they could never decide on a tone. "Do we want to take ourselves seriously or make it more like a wacky Roger Moore Bond flick? Let's do both."
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Post by Lux on May 22, 2021 21:07:59 GMT
For the sequels, Ethan Hunt is turned into a superhuman James Bond type a guy immune to injury and doesn't get a hair out of place. They just become spoofs of themselves. Hunt is superhuman, the villains' plots never make any sense. Simon Pegg plays the human Jar Jar Binks. There's a scene where all he does is bump into a bunch of secret tech on a boat and make goofy faces. After that first flick they could never decide on a tone. "Do we want to take ourselves seriously or make it more like a wacky Roger Moore Bond flick? Let's do both." Moore's Bond still had serious moments. Maybe you should stick to Jason Bourne not that I think it's serious but because it seems to fit with your "gritty" need for gritty.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 22, 2021 21:14:21 GMT
They just become spoofs of themselves. Hunt is superhuman, the villains' plots never make any sense. Simon Pegg plays the human Jar Jar Binks. There's a scene where all he does is bump into a bunch of secret tech on a boat and make goofy faces. After that first flick they could never decide on a tone. "Do we want to take ourselves seriously or make it more like a wacky Roger Moore Bond flick? Let's do both." Moore's Bond still had serious moments. Maybe you should stick to Jason Bourne not that I think it's serious but because it seems to fit with your "gritty" need for gritty. Maybe you should worry less about what movies I watch.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 22, 2021 21:21:56 GMT
It's fine. Tom Cruise is solid but Jon Voight wasn't an interesting villain. I wish they were able to get the original actor for Jim Phelps, Peter Graves, but they turned it down because they hated the idea that the character would turn rogue and act as a foil to the new face of the franchise rather than it be a passing of the torch sort of narrative. Graves didn't like the idea either of the film originally having the cast from the series be featured only to be killed on screen, which is why Martin Landau turned down an appearance. It's interesting looking back and wondering what the buzz would've been like if the internet were as complex then as it is now.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 22, 2021 21:22:16 GMT
For the sequels, Ethan Hunt is turned into a superhuman James Bond type of guy immune to injury and doesn't get a hair out of place. Especially true for the second.
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Post by Downey on May 22, 2021 21:32:10 GMT
It's fine. Tom Cruise is solid but Jon Voight wasn't an interesting villain. I wish they were able to get the original actor for Jim Phelps, Peter Graves, but they turned it down because they hated the idea that the character would turn rogue and act as a foil to the new face of the franchise rather than it be a passing of the torch sort of narrative. Graves didn't like the idea either of the film originally having the cast from the series be featured only to be killed on screen, which is why Martin Landau turned down an appearance. It's interesting looking back and wondering what the buzz would've been like if the internet were as complex then as it is now. Yes, the decision to turn the original Mission Impossible spy from the 60s into a villain was a stupid idea. I think Tom just did a quick search of the original series cast and saw a name from it and fell for the rogue spy played by Jon Voight in his own movie idea. I think Tom Cruise was a Voight fanboy gone wrong.
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Post by ck100 on May 22, 2021 21:52:59 GMT
This franchise should have a "change of pace" entry like James Bond had with movies like For Your Eyes Only and Licence to Kill.
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Post by ck100 on May 22, 2021 21:56:16 GMT
For the sequels, Ethan Hunt is turned into a superhuman James Bond type of guy immune to injury and doesn't get a hair out of place. Especially true for the second. I think in the second film, as well as in one of the recent sequels, he gets into some motorcycle crashes that would put a normal person in Intensive Care, but he gets up without any scratches or broken bones.
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Post by theravenking on May 23, 2021 12:01:39 GMT
This is still my favourite film of the franchise. I like how it subverts action movie tropes. There are no shoot-outs, almost no fights, and instead of a car chase we get a helicopter - train chase. It has a nice conspiracy thriller feel or even Hitchcockian quality to it (you can tell it's a De Palma film). I like that the plot has some twists and turns, it takes some time for Hunt to figure out what's going on and it isn't just your straight forward "bad guy wants to destroy the entire world" type of story. The character of Ethan Hunt has a pleasing everyman quality to him, something that would be completely altered for the sequel where he became this arrogant super-agent.
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