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Post by janntosh on May 23, 2021 20:46:46 GMT
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Post by mgmarshall on May 23, 2021 21:04:20 GMT
I'm more impressed by the fact that Franco Nero is still booking work, honestly.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 23, 2021 21:20:34 GMT
Well congratulations to Nero, the controversy surrounding Spacey's brief appearance will be more talked about than the movie itself by the press. It could be their best work, but the presence of Spacey will hover over it like a pitch black cloud for the press, the critics, and most cinema goers.
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Post by Downey on May 23, 2021 22:19:59 GMT
Spacey while also a deadpan unlike Bill Murray and Grodin does it with style and personality and I look forward to seeing him return to acting. I separate his work from his private life.
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Post by spooner5020 on May 23, 2021 23:32:30 GMT
Spacey while also a deadpan unlike Bill Murray and Grodin does it with style and personality and I look forward to seeing him return to acting. I separate his work from his private life. AS SHOULD EVERYONE ELSE!!!! |
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Post by Vits on May 24, 2021 10:27:24 GMT
Spacey while also a deadpan unlike Bill Murray and Grodin does it with style and personality and I look forward to seeing him return to acting. I separate his work from his private life. I don't think public crimes are very private.
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Post by Downey on May 24, 2021 11:46:49 GMT
Spacey while also a deadpan unlike Bill Murray and Grodin does it with style and personality and I look forward to seeing him return to acting. I separate his work from his private life. I don't think public crimes are very private. Off screen public life then. Happy now? |
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Post by Vits on May 24, 2021 12:30:17 GMT
Off screen public life then. Happy now? Well... No. The purpose behind my reply was to make you see that crimes aren't something personal (quite the opposite, since you do something bad to someone else) that should be ignored. If he had done something to redeem himself, maybe the subject would be different. Not only he hasn't; he has made a video a year acting like his HOUSE OF CARDS character talking as if he somehow was the victim in all of this.
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Post by Downey on May 24, 2021 12:54:56 GMT
Off screen public life then. Happy now? Well... No. The purpose behind my reply was to make you see that crimes aren't something personal (quite the opposite, since you do something bad to someone else) that should be ignored. If he had done something to redeem himself, maybe the subject would be different. Not only he hasn't; he has made a video a year acting like his HOUSE OF CARDS character talking as if he somehow was the victim in all of this. Vits, how long have you known me on here? Do you really think you're going to change my opinion on Kevin Spacey's decades of acting because you've watched one too many Law and Order episodes? Really? Whether he has repented or not is up to him. |
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Post by janntosh on May 24, 2021 12:56:36 GMT
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Post by Popeye Doyle on May 24, 2021 12:58:03 GMT
Is Victor Salva directing as well? |
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Post by Vits on May 24, 2021 13:25:20 GMT
Do you really think you're going to change my opinion on Kevin Spacey's decades of acting because you've watched one too many Law and Order episodes? Huh? No one is talking about his acting skills. Also, we know he's guilty. He admitted it. Whether he has repented or not is up to him. Yes, it's his decision... but if he doesn't do it, it doesn't mean the world has to continue like nothing has happened.
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Post by Downey on May 24, 2021 13:32:59 GMT
Do you really think you're going to change my opinion on Kevin Spacey's decades of acting because you've watched one too many Law and Order episodes? Huh? No one is talking about his acting skills. Also, we know he's guilty. He admitted it. Whether he has repented or not is up to him. Yes, it's his decision... but if he doesn't do it, it doesn't mean the world has to continue like nothing has happened. No, the world can do what they like but you don't have to forgive him. |
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Post by Vits on May 24, 2021 17:02:59 GMT
No, the world can do what they like but you don't have to forgive him. Well, that's a moot point, since he hasn't done anything to make the world debate on whether he deserves forgiveness... but yeah, since he hasn't been forgiven, there's no reason to hire him anymore (for any kind of job, not just acting).
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Post by Downey on May 24, 2021 17:22:39 GMT
No, the world can do what they like but you don't have to forgive him. Well, that's a moot point, since he hasn't done anything to make the world debate on whether he deserves forgiveness... but yeah, since he hasn't been forgiven, there's no reason to hire him anymore (for any kind of job, not just acting). I don't care. |
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Post by Vits on May 24, 2021 18:02:31 GMT
Clearly, you do care, or you otherwise wouldn't reply to me. Actually, you otherwise wouldn't have posted on this thread in the first place.
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Post by Downey on May 24, 2021 18:23:11 GMT
Clearly, you do care, or you otherwise wouldn't reply to me. Actually, you otherwise wouldn't have posted on this thread in the first place. No, I care about the thread and the possibility of whether Kevin returns to acting or not what you're trying to do is guilt bullshit. If he's found guilty then he's guilty if he isn't then it's up to the courts not me. I'm on a film forum discussing Kevin's movie career I'm not a judge or a juror. If you want to talk justice and law then start another forum or thread about America's legal system. |
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Post by Vits on May 24, 2021 18:40:26 GMT
No, I care about the thread and the possibility of whether Kevin returns to acting or not what you're trying to do is guilt bullshit. If he's found guilty then he's guilty if he isn't then it's up to the courts not me. I'm on a film forum discussing Kevin's movie career I'm not a judge or a juror. If you want to talk justice and law then start another forum or thread about America's legal system. Literally one of the first things you said was "I separate his work from his private life." You brought that subject up. Also, it's precisely because of the legal system that he won't go to jail despite admitting what he did. You don't need to be on trial to be a guilty person. Would you be saying the same things if it was any other profession?
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Post by Downey on May 24, 2021 18:52:29 GMT
No, I care about the thread and the possibility of whether Kevin returns to acting or not what you're trying to do is guilt bullshit. If he's found guilty then he's guilty if he isn't then it's up to the courts not me. I'm on a film forum discussing Kevin's movie career I'm not a judge or a juror. If you want to talk justice and law then start another forum or thread about America's legal system. Literally one of the first things you said was "I separate his work from his private life." You brought that subject up. Also, it's precisely because of the legal system that he won't go to jail despite admitting what he did. You don't need to be on trial to be a guilty person. Would you be saying the same things if it was any other profession? His private life was mentioned by me very briefly which you jumped on immediately. Truth is I separate the private lives or off screen scandals from my judgement of an actor's work. If you can't understand that then that's on you. |
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Post by Vits on May 24, 2021 19:02:46 GMT
His private life was mentioned by me very briefly which you jumped on immediately. Truth is I separate the private lives or off screen scandals from my judgement of an actor's work. If you can't understand that then that's on you. Calling it a "scandal" seems very insensitive on your part. It wasn't a fight on a reality show or something like that. He committed a crime. Multiple times, actually. And yes, I can objectively judge a performance regardless of who the actor is in real life. However, that conversation occurs once the movie is done. We're now discussing pre-production of this particular project. The job opportunity shouldn't exist in the first place. We should all do our part to avoid it when possible.
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