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Post by kolchak92 on Jun 4, 2021 18:26:51 GMT
Are any of them worth watching? I really love the 1960 film and I'm expecting any of them to come close to it, but they still might be fun to watch.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 4, 2021 18:41:01 GMT
I have seen the second one. It was ok.
Claude Akins had a good role I remember.
I haven't caught up with the other two--Lee Van Cleef takes over the Brynner role and I think George Kennedy does the last one or vice versa.
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Post by ant-mac on Jun 4, 2021 18:47:14 GMT
Are any of them worth watching? I really love the 1960 film and I'm expecting any of them to come close to it, but they still might be fun to watch. They're lesser films, obviously, but I still enjoyed them. However, the further you get from the original, the more the quality suffers... Especially once none of the original cast are present.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 4, 2021 18:52:05 GMT
Wasn't there a remake with Denzel Washington?
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Post by kolchak92 on Jun 4, 2021 18:59:18 GMT
Wasn't there a remake with Denzel Washington? Yes.
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Post by teleadm on Jun 4, 2021 19:00:28 GMT
All sequels felt like B-movies, even with Yul in first.
The third sequel surpriced me to actually have a good story and action sequenzes, after a slow start.
The first movie had an established director
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Post by Hurdy Gurdy Man on Jun 5, 2021 11:15:38 GMT
I did not think much of The Magnificent Seven. It doesn't hold a candle to its original. The only thing I appreciated was the cowboys deserting the villagers when the heat got too much for them. That was never an option in the original due to Bushido and all. This being the wild west, it worked in that context. Otherwise everything else was a poor man's version of characters and events done perfectly the first time.
Since I did not have such a high opening of part 1, I found part 2 to be alright - meaning about the same level as the first. The villain in it had got an interesting back story, with a surprise twist to it.
Part 3 is the worst of the sequels. They forgot what kind of a movie they were making. Seven Samurai, The Magnificent Seven and Return of the Magnificent Seven all followed the same method. Stay put in your stronghold, make it secure and let your opponents come at you so that you can pick them off in ground familiar to you. But in part 3 it's the exact reverse. It's as if they were told by mistake that they were making a Dirty Dozen sequel. Meaning the crew have to travel to an enemy stronghold and infiltrate and destroy it.
Part 4 might be the best sequel. It has a great setup and is more Spaghetti western in tone.
I might be the only one to think that the remake blew the original out of the water. It was not high on characterization or logic but it entertained the socks off of me, particularly hat epic gatling gun in the climax.
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Post by theravenking on Jun 5, 2021 12:36:34 GMT
There was also a TV series with Michael Biehn and Ron Perlman, The Magnificent Seven (1998-2000).
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Post by kolchak92 on Jun 5, 2021 15:42:09 GMT
I did not think much of The Magnificent Seven. It doesn't hold a candle to its original. The only thing I appreciated was the cowboys deserting the villagers when the heat got too much for them. That was never an option in the original due to Bushido and all. This being the wild west, it worked in that context. Otherwise everything else was a poor man's version of characters and events done perfectly the first time.
Since I did not have such a high opening of part 1, I found part 2 to be alright - meaning about the same level as the first. The villain in it had got an interesting back story, with a surprise twist to it.
Part 3 is the worst of the sequels. They forgot what kind of a movie they were making. Seven Samurai, The Magnificent Seven and Return of the Magnificent Seven all followed the same method. Stay put in your stronghold, make it secure and let your opponents come at you so that you can pick them off in ground familiar to you. But in part 3 it's the exact reverse. It's as if they were told by mistake that they were making a Dirty Dozen sequel. Meaning the crew have to travel to an enemy stronghold and infiltrate and destroy it.
Part 4 might be the best sequel. It has a great setup and is more Spaghetti western in tone.
I might be the only one to think that the remake blew the original out of the water. It was not high on characterization or logic but it entertained the socks off of me, particularly hat epic gatling gun in the climax.
I really enjoyed the remake as well. I don't think it was as good as the original, but I thought it was perfectly fine.
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