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Post by anthonyrocks on Feb 21, 2017 5:49:38 GMT
Do you think Tom Brady is the Greatest NFL Quarterback of All-Time.....YES or NO ?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 18, 2024 1:02:31 GMT
He played in three more Super Bowls and won two of them after this poll was created.
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Post by movielover on Jan 18, 2024 4:24:54 GMT
Yes
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 18, 2024 7:54:11 GMT
Who voted no? Jimanchower?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jan 18, 2024 12:20:15 GMT
Every time someone responds to this thread, AH Fan gets painful diarrhea.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 18, 2024 13:42:56 GMT
Who voted no? Jimanchower? Just to jokingly play it out, if not TB then who is? I think I’d have to go with Peyton if not TB but I’d listen to arguments for Elway or Montana.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 18, 2024 15:16:43 GMT
Who voted no? Jimanchower? Just to jokingly play it out, if not TB then who is? I think I’d have to go with Peyton if not TB but I’d listen to arguments for Elway or Montana. I'd put Elway and Montana both ahead of Peyton.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 18, 2024 15:28:10 GMT
Who voted no? Jimanchower? Just to jokingly play it out, if not TB then who is? I think I’d have to go with Peyton if not TB but I’d listen to arguments for Elway or Montana. Jay Cutler
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Post by Tim05 on Jan 19, 2024 14:18:09 GMT
Who voted no? Jimanchower? Just to jokingly play it out, if not TB then who is? I think I’d have to go with Peyton if not TB but I’d listen to arguments for Elway or Montana. I think you can't even argue at this point. Maybe in 2017 when the poll was made - I still wouldn't - but I might listen to an argument at that point? What he went on and did with Tampa really took away sliver of doubt anybody possibly could have had. The man had back-to-back 40 touchdown seasons at age 43 and 44, one of those seasons also throwing 5,300 yards. There are no crazier stats than Brady stats.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 19, 2024 14:40:53 GMT
Just to jokingly play it out, if not TB then who is? I think I’d have to go with Peyton if not TB but I’d listen to arguments for Elway or Montana. I think you can't even argue at this point. Maybe in 2017 when the poll was made - I still wouldn't - but I might listen to an argument at that point? What he went on and did with Tampa really took away sliver of doubt anybody possibly could have had. The man had back-to-back 40 touchdown seasons at age 43 and 44, one of those seasons also throwing 5,300 yards. There are no crazier stats than Brady stats. Just to be the obvious guy... He also played in a different era when you couldn't hit the quarterback, touch receivers, or run your offense through the running back, and the one time he got hurt the league made a rule against that ever happening to him again. You can't compare because you don't know what would have happened to a Johnny Unitas or an Otto Graham or a Joe Montana if they played in another era. Joe Montana was the league MVP (AFL) in 1968 with 15 touchdowns and 17 interceptions and a completion percentage below 50%. And the hit that effectively ended Joe Montana's career would likely have been a penalty these days.. and so many other hits they guys took would be outlawed. The likelihood of any player playing as long as Brady did in any other era would have been nearly impossible and there's no chance that Brady could have put up the numbers or the longevity in previous eras. But still yeah, you're right.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 19, 2024 15:38:46 GMT
I think you can't even argue at this point. Maybe in 2017 when the poll was made - I still wouldn't - but I might listen to an argument at that point? What he went on and did with Tampa really took away sliver of doubt anybody possibly could have had. The man had back-to-back 40 touchdown seasons at age 43 and 44, one of those seasons also throwing 5,300 yards. There are no crazier stats than Brady stats. Just to be the obvious guy... He also played in a different era when you couldn't hit the quarterback, touch receivers, or run your offense through the running back, and the one time he got hurt the league made a rule against that ever happening to him again. You can't compare because you don't know what would have happened to a Johnny Unitas or an Otto Graham or a Joe Montana if they played in another era. Joe Montana was the league MVP (AFL) in 1968 with 15 touchdowns and 17 interceptions and a completion percentage below 50%. And the hit that effectively ended Joe Montana's career would likely have been a penalty these days.. and so many other hits they guys took would be outlawed. The likelihood of any player playing as long as Brady did in any other era would have been nearly impossible and there's no chance that Brady could have put up the numbers or the longevity in previous eras. But still yeah, you're right. I could be wrong but I think there have been a lot more hits on the QB not called this year compared to the last few. No more yelling about it being flag football or the QB should have a red vest.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 19, 2024 15:47:53 GMT
Just to be the obvious guy... He also played in a different era when you couldn't hit the quarterback, touch receivers, or run your offense through the running back, and the one time he got hurt the league made a rule against that ever happening to him again. You can't compare because you don't know what would have happened to a Johnny Unitas or an Otto Graham or a Joe Montana if they played in another era. Joe Montana was the league MVP (AFL) in 1968 with 15 touchdowns and 17 interceptions and a completion percentage below 50%. And the hit that effectively ended Joe Montana's career would likely have been a penalty these days.. and so many other hits they guys took would be outlawed. The likelihood of any player playing as long as Brady did in any other era would have been nearly impossible and there's no chance that Brady could have put up the numbers or the longevity in previous eras. But still yeah, you're right. I could be wrong but I think there have been a lot more hits on the QB not called this year compared to the last few. No more yelling about it being flag football or the QB should have a red vest. I don't know the numbers on that, but that would be interesting. It still certainly feels like every roughing call I see is a whole bunch of bullshit, but maybe I've just been conditioned to think that for the last 10 years or so as they league has been trying to systematically outlaw defense.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 19, 2024 16:28:15 GMT
I think you can't even argue at this point. Maybe in 2017 when the poll was made - I still wouldn't - but I might listen to an argument at that point? What he went on and did with Tampa really took away sliver of doubt anybody possibly could have had. The man had back-to-back 40 touchdown seasons at age 43 and 44, one of those seasons also throwing 5,300 yards. There are no crazier stats than Brady stats. Just to be the obvious guy... He also played in a different era when you couldn't hit the quarterback, touch receivers, or run your offense through the running back, and the one time he got hurt the league made a rule against that ever happening to him again. You can't compare because you don't know what would have happened to a Johnny Unitas or an Otto Graham or a Joe Montana if they played in another era. Joe Montana* was the league MVP (AFL) in 1968 with 15 touchdowns and 17 interceptions and a completion percentage below 50%. And the hit that effectively ended Joe Montana's career would likely have been a penalty these days.. and so many other hits they guys took would be outlawed. The likelihood of any player playing as long as Brady did in any other era would have been nearly impossible and there's no chance that Brady could have put up the numbers or the longevity in previous eras. But still yeah, you're right. * Namath
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 19, 2024 16:32:08 GMT
Just to be the obvious guy... He also played in a different era when you couldn't hit the quarterback, touch receivers, or run your offense through the running back, and the one time he got hurt the league made a rule against that ever happening to him again. You can't compare because you don't know what would have happened to a Johnny Unitas or an Otto Graham or a Joe Montana if they played in another era. Joe Montana* was the league MVP (AFL) in 1968 with 15 touchdowns and 17 interceptions and a completion percentage below 50%. And the hit that effectively ended Joe Montana's career would likely have been a penalty these days.. and so many other hits they guys took would be outlawed. The likelihood of any player playing as long as Brady did in any other era would have been nearly impossible and there's no chance that Brady could have put up the numbers or the longevity in previous eras. But still yeah, you're right. * Namath Thanks. Couldn't keep my Joes straight.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 19, 2024 16:46:39 GMT
Thanks. Couldn't keep my Joes straight. Just some helpful editing for the readers. At least it wasn't the response I bet you feared it was, when you saw I replied to you in a conversation about Brady. "F$&k Rey, I said Brady was the best, leave it alone!"
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 19, 2024 17:28:39 GMT
Thanks. Couldn't keep my Joes straight. Just some helpful editing for the readers. At least it wasn't the response I bet you feared it was, when you saw I replied to you in a conversation about Brady. "F$&k Rey, I said Brady was the best, leave it alone!" I actually feared that you'd somehow find a way of accusing me of being the president of the Bill Belichick fan club again.
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Post by Tim05 on Jan 19, 2024 21:52:19 GMT
I think you can't even argue at this point. Maybe in 2017 when the poll was made - I still wouldn't - but I might listen to an argument at that point? What he went on and did with Tampa really took away sliver of doubt anybody possibly could have had. The man had back-to-back 40 touchdown seasons at age 43 and 44, one of those seasons also throwing 5,300 yards. There are no crazier stats than Brady stats. Just to be the obvious guy... He also played in a different era when you couldn't hit the quarterback, touch receivers, or run your offense through the running back, and the one time he got hurt the league made a rule against that ever happening to him again. You can't compare because you don't know what would have happened to a Johnny Unitas or an Otto Graham or a Joe Montana if they played in another era. Joe Montana was the league MVP (AFL) in 1968 with 15 touchdowns and 17 interceptions and a completion percentage below 50%. And the hit that effectively ended Joe Montana's career would likely have been a penalty these days.. and so many other hits they guys took would be outlawed. The likelihood of any player playing as long as Brady did in any other era would have been nearly impossible and there's no chance that Brady could have put up the numbers or the longevity in previous eras. But still yeah, you're right. It is difficult to compare people in completely different eras, the only fair way to compare across eras is to look at their accomplishments and stats compared to players of the same era. Unitas is still widely considered in the conversation of all-time great quarterbacks, despite Pro Football Reference telling me he is a very mediocre to below average quarterback if you look at his stats - because he was that much better than the rest of the guys of his era. Brady's numbers AND championships compared to everyone else who played in the same era he did are astounding.
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Post by Tim05 on Jan 19, 2024 21:54:08 GMT
Hah, someone changed from yes to no. It was 13-3 earlier, now 12-4. Who is the pot stirrer?
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 19, 2024 22:10:26 GMT
Hah, someone changed from yes to no. It was 13-3 earlier, now 12-4. Who is the pot stirrer? Me, thought it would be amusing. And I’m starting to have second thoughts about that Brady guy, he couldn’t even go an entire career without having a losing season - pfft.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 19, 2024 22:52:45 GMT
Hah, someone changed from yes to no. It was 13-3 earlier, now 12-4. Who is the pot stirrer? Me, thought it would be amusing. And I’m starting to have second thoughts about that Brady guy, he couldn’t even go an entire career without having a losing season - pfft. I hate when they bring that stat out when they talk about Mike Tomlin. I don't care either way about the Steelers and Tomlin seems like a good guy but I'd probably feel frustrated if I was a fan. He gives me Eagles-era Andy Reid vibes. I know Tomlin has a ring but Cowher should probably at least get an assist with that one.
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