Post by drystyx on Jul 14, 2021 17:44:27 GMT
The twelve tribes leaving Egypt were led mostly Eastward, and there really isn't a definitive reason for this.
Moses did live in the East, and it's reasonable he felt the kinship for the Arabs there, the Jews being Arabic, but why was this so different from lands West through Libya and into Algeria?
The barrier of the Mediterranean Sea made North a ridiculous notion, of course.
One wonders if all twelve tribes really were so closely related to each other. If the Arabic people from the East left Egypt, it stands to reason that other people would travel would make similar Exoduses towards their origins South or West.
Moses would not be concerned over those going South or West, because when you're struggling to survive, you have enough to worry about your own life raft. But one would think there would be other stories of people going in those directions.
Did Moses pretty much intimidate all the tribes to go with him? The story of Exodus itself indicates he probably did this. I always thought Moses was brutal in dealing with the "people" and always wondered if some of those twelve tribes were a bit subordinate.
I could see how other tribes who originated West and South might have felt the need to go East. They would have had a lot of Egypt to travel through to go South or West. They didn't have boats to go North over the big sea. They were already near the Eastern border.
I'm not convinced that the twelve tribes were from twelve brothers. That would be a miraculous story, and God does miracles, so it's a possibility. From a mortal perspective, I see the twelve tribes as being twelve factions that were hard pressed. Levites were probably the scholars who cold read and write. Why did they take "third place" behind Reuben and Simeon? Were Reuben and Simeon higher ranked factions? And what of Judah? That tribe was "super tribe" in fourth position. And the two half tribes from Joseph? With Joseph's position, one would think they were up the ladder more.
From a mortal view, the two half tribes of Joseph seem to be royalty from other lands sent into slavery. Simeon was the most violent of the brothers, leading one to think his faction was that of a soldier or mercenary group, and since they acted violently with Levi in mass murder in the records, they were certainly helpful in enforcing the rules that Moses forced upon the others. Still, if some of the people who wanted to make the Exodus had originated in Libya or Algeria West or in Sudan South, could they have felt comfortable going through Egypt in groups of five, fifteen, fifty, towards their native land? Or would that have been too dangerous? Were wild animals an insurmountable hazard? I'm guessing mosquitos were a big issue. And climate.
Moses did live in the East, and it's reasonable he felt the kinship for the Arabs there, the Jews being Arabic, but why was this so different from lands West through Libya and into Algeria?
The barrier of the Mediterranean Sea made North a ridiculous notion, of course.
One wonders if all twelve tribes really were so closely related to each other. If the Arabic people from the East left Egypt, it stands to reason that other people would travel would make similar Exoduses towards their origins South or West.
Moses would not be concerned over those going South or West, because when you're struggling to survive, you have enough to worry about your own life raft. But one would think there would be other stories of people going in those directions.
Did Moses pretty much intimidate all the tribes to go with him? The story of Exodus itself indicates he probably did this. I always thought Moses was brutal in dealing with the "people" and always wondered if some of those twelve tribes were a bit subordinate.
I could see how other tribes who originated West and South might have felt the need to go East. They would have had a lot of Egypt to travel through to go South or West. They didn't have boats to go North over the big sea. They were already near the Eastern border.
I'm not convinced that the twelve tribes were from twelve brothers. That would be a miraculous story, and God does miracles, so it's a possibility. From a mortal perspective, I see the twelve tribes as being twelve factions that were hard pressed. Levites were probably the scholars who cold read and write. Why did they take "third place" behind Reuben and Simeon? Were Reuben and Simeon higher ranked factions? And what of Judah? That tribe was "super tribe" in fourth position. And the two half tribes from Joseph? With Joseph's position, one would think they were up the ladder more.
From a mortal view, the two half tribes of Joseph seem to be royalty from other lands sent into slavery. Simeon was the most violent of the brothers, leading one to think his faction was that of a soldier or mercenary group, and since they acted violently with Levi in mass murder in the records, they were certainly helpful in enforcing the rules that Moses forced upon the others. Still, if some of the people who wanted to make the Exodus had originated in Libya or Algeria West or in Sudan South, could they have felt comfortable going through Egypt in groups of five, fifteen, fifty, towards their native land? Or would that have been too dangerous? Were wild animals an insurmountable hazard? I'm guessing mosquitos were a big issue. And climate.
