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Post by ck100 on Jul 15, 2021 16:03:26 GMT
Doesn't seem like the critics are digging it from the RT score so far. I guess making unnecessary, nostalgia-driven, late-arriving sequels like this and Coming 2 America aren't always a good thing to do.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 15, 2021 16:56:36 GMT
I dunno why they went with the new animation style, it looks so bad. They should have brought back Danny Devito, one of the few good things about the original
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 15, 2021 17:05:02 GMT
Kath Soucie had been set to reprise her role as Lola Bunny, and had all of her dialogue recorded. But for unknown reasons, she was replaced by Zendaya during late post-production.
Jeff Bergman Jeff Bergman ... Bugs Bunny / Sylvester / Yosemite Sam / Fred Flintstone / Yogi Bear (voice) Zendaya Zendaya ... Lola Bunny (voice) Gabriel Iglesias Gabriel Iglesias ... Speedy Gonzales (voice) Eric Bauza Eric Bauza ... Daffy Duck / Porky Pig / Foghorn Leghorn / Elmer Fudd / Marvin the Martian (voice)
*I notice Speedy Gonzales now has a satisfactory voice actor for it--no unPC element to it I guess.
It's interesting how they divide up the voices though. Joe Alaskey had done Yosemite Sam in Who Framed Roger Rabbit and did Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck in Looney Toons Back in Action--I didn't know Jeff Bergman did Elmer Fudd. I know Billy West did him.
It's weird to see the same guy who does Bugs Bunny also can do Fred Flintstone or Yogi Bear--is the voice impression that good or do they now use software to enhance the voices?
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Post by Archelaus on Jul 15, 2021 17:06:30 GMT
Honestly, I wasn't expecting much. As evident from the trailers, several reviews are stating this movie is an exercise of Warner Bros. showing off its intellectual properties.
Still, Richard Roeper's review makes for a fun read:
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 15, 2021 17:14:48 GMT
In a related matter, Mel Blanc might be the best voice actor off all time, for a while I thought he just did the main Looney Tunes characters (Bugs, Daffy, Porky, Fudd), I didn't realize he did LITERALLY nearly every character (Foghorn, Sylvester, Marvin the Martian, Speedy, Pepe LePew). I think the only characters he didn't voice were the female ones (I think June Foray typically did those). I can't think of any other voice actor that has done such a wide range of characters (Maybe Dan Castelenata?)
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 15, 2021 19:47:32 GMT
Not surprising...Like, at all. The original movie isn't exactly a masterpiece, Malcolm D. Lee's resume is pretty mixed with strike out and slam dunks of very opposite directions in terms of quality, the rumored plots from over the years were none impressive and screamed direct-to-video, LeBron James is no actor(neither was Michael Jordan for that matter but in general he is more charismatic a personality than James), and Looney Tunes as a brand is not as popular as it used to be and basketball isn't as hot either - aren't mixed martial arts and football more popular now? I see them trending much higher online than basketball on the regular.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 15, 2021 21:13:38 GMT
In a related matter, Mel Blanc might be the best voice actor off all time, for a while I thought he just did the main Looney Tunes characters (Bugs, Daffy, Porky, Fudd), I didn't realize he did LITERALLY nearly every character (Foghorn, Sylvester, Marvin the Martian, Speedy, Pepe LePew). I think the only characters he didn't voice were the female ones (I think June Foray typically did those). I can't think of any other voice actor that has done such a wide range of characters (Maybe Dan Castelenata?) I only found out recently that he does the voice of the genie in Return of Jafar.
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Post by kolchak92 on Jul 15, 2021 21:19:43 GMT
In a related matter, Mel Blanc might be the best voice actor off all time, for a while I thought he just did the main Looney Tunes characters (Bugs, Daffy, Porky, Fudd), I didn't realize he did LITERALLY nearly every character (Foghorn, Sylvester, Marvin the Martian, Speedy, Pepe LePew). I think the only characters he didn't voice were the female ones (I think June Foray typically did those). I can't think of any other voice actor that has done such a wide range of characters (Maybe Dan Castelenata?) Actually Blanc didn't do Fudd, at least not regularly. Fudd's voice was done by Arthur Q. Bryan, Blanc did it sporadically after Bryan's passing.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 15, 2021 21:28:47 GMT
In a related matter, Mel Blanc might be the best voice actor off all time, for a while I thought he just did the main Looney Tunes characters (Bugs, Daffy, Porky, Fudd), I didn't realize he did LITERALLY nearly every character (Foghorn, Sylvester, Marvin the Martian, Speedy, Pepe LePew). I think the only characters he didn't voice were the female ones (I think June Foray typically did those). I can't think of any other voice actor that has done such a wide range of characters (Maybe Dan Castelenata?) I only found out recently that he does the voice of the genie in Return of Jafar. Are you a fan of "Married With Children"? He had a pretty funny guest appearance:
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 15, 2021 21:31:05 GMT
I only found out recently that he does the voice of the genie in Return of Jafar. Are you a fan of "Married With Children"? He had a pretty funny guest appearance: NO.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 15, 2021 22:57:53 GMT
Not surprising...Like, at all. The original movie isn't exactly a masterpiece, Malcolm D. Lee's resume is pretty mixed with strike out and slam dunks of very opposite directions in terms of quality, the rumored plots from over the years were none impressive and screamed direct-to-video, LeBron James is no actor(neither was Michael Jordan for that matter but in general he is more charismatic a personality than James), and Looney Tunes as a brand is not as popular as it used to be and basketball isn't as hot either - aren't mixed martial arts and football more popular now? I see them trending much higher online than basketball on the regular. Basketball is currently one of the most popular sports in the world. American football has actually been on the decline in popularity in recent years.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jul 16, 2021 7:29:22 GMT
I think the original was a lightning in a bottle kind of thing. Not something that could easily be repeated after a gap of 25 years.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 7:35:26 GMT
Honestly, I wasn't expecting much. As evident from the trailers, several reviews are stating this movie is an exercise of Warner Bros. showing off its intellectual properties. Still, Richard Roeper's review makes for a fun read: I'm watching it now on HBO Max and after reading Roeper's review I skipped ahead to see how long the basketball game is, because he point out that it goes on and on and on and ON. He wasn't kidding. It looks like the basketball game lasts at least 30 minutes.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 21:32:54 GMT
This movie is dumb AF and is basically 2 hours of "Name the character and movie reference." The movie is WB jerking off to all the intellectual property it owns and very shameless in the way it does it too.
The 1996 original is far more subtle and a lot more fun.
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Post by Cat on Jul 17, 2021 4:31:55 GMT
I wouldn't put too much stock in those scores. However bad they're saying it is, my guess it's probably just a little worse.
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Post by Marv on Jul 17, 2021 4:36:23 GMT
I dunno why they went with the new animation style, it looks so bad. They should have brought back Danny Devito, one of the few good things about the original The animation makes me not even interested. Why mess with a good thing? Lol
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 17, 2021 4:57:23 GMT
I dunno why they went with the new animation style, it looks so bad. They should have brought back Danny Devito, one of the few good things about the original The animation makes me not even interested. Why mess with a good thing? Lol It has a similar problem as new Simpsons (after probably season 15 or something) even before they do the 3D animated versions of the Looney Tunes characters. It is too bright and defined. What makes old animation better is because it was actually drawn and had an imperfect look and feel to it.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 17, 2021 5:54:41 GMT
I am re-watching the original to make a proper comparison and to say why the first works alright and the sequel doesn't work at all.
This one set-up scene is better than the entirety of Space Jam 2. The reason it works so well is because the villain and his plan fit in with the crazy world of the Looney Tunes perfectly, while also being different at the same time. I heard someone on line say that the plot makes more sense in the new version, but what he is missing is that the villain in the original is suppose to be a moron and crazy. His ideas are wacky nonsense, as is the Looney Tunes world being a place somewhere on Earth. Another major difference is that Michael Jordan has movie star quality to him, while LeBron James doesn't. It is like comparing Eddie Murphy to Kevin Hart in terms of screen presence and likability.
EDIT - Finished the original. Fun enough for the first half, but overall I am not a fan.
1996 - 6/10
2021 - 3.5/10
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Post by Marv on Jul 17, 2021 22:54:57 GMT
Just watched…to be fair I was eating dinner while I watched so it didn’t have my full attention but I will say this…it wasn’t nearly as bad as I had thought it would be. The looney tunes stuff was a lot of fun most of the time. Lebron is terrible at acting tho and shows zero charisma or emotion when he’s supposed to show it. They probably should’ve gone with a different core storyline since the focus on Lebron as a dad meant you had to get more out of him…and he doesn’t have it. I didn’t mind all the other WB nods either. I thought it was kinda fun to see them scattered throughout the other WB worlds…DCU, Game of Thrones, etc. Look there’s a TON of cheese here but for what it is and the target audience…I really didn’t mind it.
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Post by Marv on Jul 17, 2021 22:57:13 GMT
Porky Pig gets into a rap battle and while I didn’t really care about the lines once he started spitting…his 20 or 30 stutters to start things off actually had me laughing out loud.
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