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Post by Sophiefoxx on Aug 16, 2021 14:41:12 GMT
i'm getting a kick out of those movies lately, so please tell me what are ur favourite film-noirs?
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Post by mattgarth on Aug 16, 2021 14:42:28 GMT
D.O.A. is pretty high up there.
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Post by Isapop on Aug 16, 2021 14:46:25 GMT
Gotta be Double Indemnity.
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Post by bess1971s on Aug 16, 2021 16:20:10 GMT
The Big Sleep and Dark Passage.
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Post by timshelboy on Aug 16, 2021 16:24:03 GMT
NOIRSLAURA 1944 MILDRED PIERCE 1945 IN A LONELY PLACE 1950 SUDDEN FEAR 1952 TOUCH OF EVIL 1958
NEO NOIRSCHINATOWN 1974 BAD TIMING 1980 BODY HEAT 1981 THE GRIFTERS 1990 BOUND 1996 Happy viewing!      
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Post by Sophiefoxx on Aug 16, 2021 16:31:21 GMT
NOIRSLAURA 1944 MILDRED PIERCE 1945 IN A LONELY PLACE 1950 SUDDEN FEAR 1952 TOUCH OF EVIL 1958
NEO NOIRSCHINATOWN 1974 BAD TIMING 1980 BODY HEAT 1981 THE GRIFTERS 1990 BOUND 1996 Happy viewing! thank u! thats a nice list, i love Laura and In a Lonely Place myself. i'll add my own favs later. thanks! |
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Post by politicidal on Aug 16, 2021 16:42:49 GMT
Classic examples include:
The Night of the Hunter
The Maltese Falcon (1941)
Sweet Smell of Success
Double Indemnity
The Killers
Rebecca
Out of the Past
The Breaking Point
Key Largo
Mildred Pierce
Rope of Sand
Gaslight (1944)
Scarlet Street
His Kind of Woman
Notorious
The Big Clock
All the King's Men
The Woman in the Window
Shadow of a Doubt
White Heat
Strangers on a Train
Ace in the Hole
Sunset Boulevard
This Gun for Hire
Gun Crazy
Laura
The City That Never Sleeps (1956)
Witness for the Protection
Vertigo
The Big Sleep
Death of a Scoundrel
Touch of Evil
Angel Face
The Stranger
Spellbound
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Post by mikef6 on Aug 16, 2021 16:51:18 GMT
55 Titles that are essential to film noir, at least IM not-so HO.
The Letter (1940)
Rebecca (1940)
The Maltese Falcon (1941)
Citizen Kane (1941)
High Sierra (1941)
I Wake Up Screaming (1941)
Moontide (1942)
The Glass Key (1942)
Le Corbeau (The Raven) (1943)
Double Indemnity (1944)
Laura (1944)
Murder, My Sweet (1944)
Detour (1944)
Ministry Of Fear (1944)
Gaslight (1944)
And Then There Were None (1945)
Leave Her To Heaven (1945)
The Big Sleep (1946)
The Killers (1946)
Notorious (1946)
The Strange Love Of Martha Ivers (1946)
The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946)
Kiss Of Death (1947)
Out Of The Past (1947)
Nora Prentiss (1947)
Body And Soul (1947)
Key Largo (1948)
Force Of Evil (1948)
The Third Man (1949)
White Heat (1949)
Too Late For Tears (1949)
D.O.A. (1949)
Criss Cross (1949)
Intruder In The Dust (1949)
The Asphalt Jungle (1950)
In A Lonely Place (1950)
No Man of Her Own (1950)
Ace In The Hole (1951)
Detective Story (1951)
The Narrow Margin (1952)
The Big Heat (1953)
Pickup On South Street (1953)
The Phenix City Story (1955)
Du Rififi Chez Les Hommes (Rififi) (1955)
Kiss Me, Deadly (1955)
Night Of The Hunter (1955)
Killer’s Kiss (1955)
The Big Combo (1955)
The Killing (1956)
Bob Le Flambeur (Bob The High-Roller) (1956)
Sweet Smell Of Success (1957)
Ascenseur Pour L’Échafaud (Elevator To The Gallows) (1958)
Touch Of Evil (1958)
Vertigo (1958)
Odds Against Tomorrow (1959)
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Post by Sophiefoxx on Aug 16, 2021 16:58:04 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Aug 16, 2021 17:18:07 GMT
55 Titles that are essential to film noir, at least IM not-so HO. The Letter (1940) Rebecca (1940) The Maltese Falcon (1941) Citizen Kane (1941) High Sierra (1941) I Wake Up Screaming (1941) Moontide (1942) The Glass Key (1942) Le Corbeau (The Raven) (1943) Double Indemnity (1944) Laura (1944) Murder, My Sweet (1944) Detour (1944) Ministry Of Fear (1944) Gaslight (1944) And Then There Were None (1945)Leave Her To Heaven (1945) The Big Sleep (1946) The Killers (1946) Notorious (1946) The Strange Love Of Martha Ivers (1946) The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946) Kiss Of Death (1947) Out Of The Past (1947) Nora Prentiss (1947) Body And Soul (1947) Key Largo (1948) Force Of Evil (1948) The Third Man (1949) White Heat (1949) Too Late For Tears (1949) D.O.A. (1949) Criss Cross (1949) Intruder In The Dust (1949) The Asphalt Jungle (1950) In A Lonely Place (1950) No Man of Her Own (1950) Ace In The Hole (1951) Detective Story (1951)The Narrow Margin (1952) The Big Heat (1953) Pickup On South Street (1953) The Phenix City Story (1955) Du Rififi Chez Les Hommes (Rififi) (1955) Kiss Me, Deadly (1955)Night Of The Hunter (1955) Killer’s Kiss (1955) The Big Combo (1955) The Killing (1956) Bob Le Flambeur (Bob The High-Roller) (1956) Sweet Smell Of Success (1957) Ascenseur Pour L’Échafaud (Elevator To The Gallows) (1958) Touch Of Evil (1958) Vertigo (1958) Odds Against Tomorrow (1959) I knew I was missing some.
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Post by london777 on Aug 16, 2021 17:24:38 GMT
You will probably prefer:
Slightly Scarlet (1956)
Leave Her to Heaven (1945)
They are both in full color.
Having seen those, switch to musicals and swashbucklers until Hollywood has the common decency to colorize all those Film Noirs (or should it be Films Noir?) listed above.
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Post by timshelboy on Aug 16, 2021 18:11:03 GMT
You will probably prefer: Slightly Scarlet (1956) Leave Her to Heaven (1945) They are both in full color. Having seen those, switch to musicals and swashbucklers until Hollywood has the common decency to colorize all those Film Noirs (or should it be Films Noir?) listed above. Another Color Noir not yet mentioned ( I think) is  Centred around a gambling den run by Mary Astor, Lizabeth Scott plays her headstrong daughter, who gets a case for homme fatale John Hodiak, but seems to have a rival for his affections in Wendell Corey. Lancaster fans may feel a bit shortchanged by his rather small, dull, good guy role but everyone else should have fun.
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Post by mikef6 on Aug 16, 2021 18:22:32 GMT
You will probably prefer: Slightly Scarlet (1956) Leave Her to Heaven (1945) They are both in full color. Having seen those, switch to musicals and swashbucklers until Hollywood has the common decency to colorize all those Film Noirs (or should it be Films Noir?) listed above. Another Color Noir not yet mentioned ( I think) is Centred around a gambling den run by Mary Astor, Lizabeth Scott plays her headstrong daughter, who gets a case for homme fatale John Hodiak, but seems to have a rival for his affections in Wendell Corey. Lancaster fans may feel a bit shortchanged by his rather small, dull, good guy role but everyone else should have fun. I haven't seen Desert Fury but the presence of Liz Scott and Burt Lancaster (even as a good guy) sure gives it noir cred. I want to see it now.
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Post by mikef6 on Aug 16, 2021 18:27:51 GMT
timshelboyI'll add that I got schooled in French grammar on a film noir Facebook group. I had typed homme fatale like you did and was told in no uncertain terms that the masculine was spelled fatal without the concluding "e" thus homme fatal. I've still not confirmed that but he sure sounded authoritative. French fluent speakers please feel free to weigh in.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Aug 16, 2021 18:32:46 GMT
Some suggestions missing from mikef6's list: Phantom Lady (1944) Crossfire (1947) T-Men (1947) Raw Deal (1948) Hollow Triumph (1948) He Walked By Night (1948) And I probably shouldn't open this can o'worms, so let's just say I'm pointing to it up on the shelf. No offense, Mike, but about a third of those 55 I wouldn't consider noir. But that's the thing about it: it's often in the eye of the beholder. The definition can be as hard to hold onto as a sawbuck in the big city. |
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Post by mikef6 on Aug 16, 2021 18:49:27 GMT
Some suggestions missing from mikef6 's list: Phantom Lady (1944) Crossfire (1947) T-Men (1947) Raw Deal (1948) Hollow Triumph (1948) He Walked By Night (1948) And I probably shouldn't open this can o'worms, so let's just say I'm pointing to it up on the shelf. No offense, Mike, but about a third of those 55 I wouldn't consider noir. But that's the thing about it: it's often in the eye of the beholder. The definition can be as hard to hold onto as a sawbuck in the big city. Thanks for your comment. I do have some rules about what is noir and what is not but I am flexible. Actually, I think the titles you picked are pretty solid. The ones purists are most likely to pick out are the "A" movies (Citizen Kane, Casablanca), the Hitchcock (a common saying is that Hitchcock is his own genre or sub-genre - Rebecca also falls under the "A" picture no-no), the ones in color and just about anything that has a happy ending. There is one funny meme I've seen that shows Rick Blaine holding a gun on Capt. Renault and saying, "Louie, if you call Casablanca a film noir one more time, I'll plug ya."
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Post by timshelboy on Aug 16, 2021 18:49:50 GMT
timshelboy I'll add that I got schooled in French grammar on a film noir Facebook group. I had typed homme fatale like you did and was told in no uncertain terms that the masculine was spelled fatal without the concluding "e" thus homme fatal. I've still not confirmed that but he sure sounded authoritative. French fluent speakers please feel free to weigh in. I don't doubt you are correct but fatal e looks better on a marquee  Here is DESERT FURY below Let us know what you think  DESERT FURY
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Post by timshelboy on Aug 16, 2021 19:01:27 GMT
I haven't seen Desert Fury but the presence of Liz Scott and Burt Lancaster (even as a good guy) sure gives it noir cred. I want to see it now. Checked my library and it seems DESERT FURY was the first film Burt made - in fact his original role in script even smaller but was built up as film shot on orders of Hal Wallis, who believed he was star material - but it was shelved for a while and was his 4th released. Hal was right, as THE KILLERS proved,
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Post by london777 on Aug 16, 2021 21:20:54 GMT
Centred around a gambling den run by Mary Astor, Lizabeth Scott plays her headstrong daughter, who gets a case for homme fatale John Hodiak, but seems to have a rival for his affections in Wendell Corey. Lancaster fans may feel a bit shortchanged by his rather small, dull, good guy role but everyone else should have fun. Just recently added it to my collection and quite enjoyed it. Bit of a stretch to call it Noir, though.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Aug 16, 2021 22:11:26 GMT
Centred around a gambling den run by Mary Astor, Lizabeth Scott plays her headstrong daughter, who gets a case for homme fatale John Hodiak, but seems to have a rival for his affections in Wendell Corey. Lancaster fans may feel a bit shortchanged by his rather small, dull, good guy role but everyone else should have fun. Just recently added it to my collection and quite enjoyed it. Bit of a stretch to call it Noir, though. It ticks enough boxes for me: terse dialogue spoken by tough characters; hard-bitten cynicism and disillusionment; secrets, betrayal and people who aren't what they seem; a pervasive sense of doom. I know you didn't mention it, but for the record, I find the color no impediment to effective noir visuals; if anything, even enhancing them:      
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