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Post by angel on Feb 21, 2017 11:42:39 GMT
The Sunday Times Film critic Camilla Long has been accused of "casual racism" for her review of Moonlight. Unfortunately I can't provide a link to her full review because The Sunday Times is subscription only online, but let's just say she was decidedly lukewarm on the film's so-called merits with her critique ranging from the film's lack of plot, the "screeching" performance of Naomie Harris and even questioning who the film was for. Her opening paragraphs (the only bit you can see online) set the tone for the rest of her review...
“The received wisdom on Moonlight, a film about gay love in the black ghetto, is that it is "necessary" and "important’" It is an "urgent" and "relevant" examination of forbidden attraction in a world, "the streets", that is largely hostile to gay men.
Only, relevant to whom? Certainly not the audience. Most will be straight, white, middle class. Nor is it particularly ‘urgent’: the story has been told countless times, against countless backdrops.”
She explained the last paragraph further on Twitter, tweeting...
"As I said in my review, Moonlight is a film for a non-black, non-gay, non-working class, chin-stroking, self-regarding, turbo smug audience"
As you can imagine her review did not go down particularly well, with several accusations of ignorance at best or even outright racism at worst. Did anyone else read her review or even agree with her sentiments above?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 11:44:08 GMT
Being called a racist today means nothing. I mean people scream racisms about pretty much everything.
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Post by miike80 on Feb 21, 2017 11:56:44 GMT
Being called a racist today means nothing. I mean people scream racisms about pretty much everything. Exactly. like last year's Oscar are so white. God forbid you won't love a movie made about the black people's problems. |
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Post by angel on Feb 21, 2017 12:31:23 GMT
Being called a racist today means nothing. I mean people scream racisms about pretty much everything. Exactly. like last year's Oscar are so white. God forbid you won't love a movie made about the black people's problems. But do you agree with her that "Moonlight is a film for a non-black, non-gay, non-working class, chin-stroking, self-regarding, turbo smug audience"
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Post by miike80 on Feb 21, 2017 12:45:24 GMT
I don't agree with that statement. it's a movie that could be enjoyed by anyone if they find the subject matter appealing. I am not a big fan, but not because it's about black/gay/whatever people
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 13:09:50 GMT
Camilla Long's just one of those journalists who just want to wind people up. She was slated for disliking I Daniel Blake too last year, because she said it wasn't realistic to poor people, yet she's from aristocratic wealth so she'd have no clue. I wouldn't say she's racist, she just looks for a reaction. If Moonlight wasn't an SJW favourite, no one would care for her opinion, as that's all it is. But SJWs are desperate to be offended over everything these days.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Feb 21, 2017 15:44:21 GMT
But what did she think of the film itself (as opposed to what she thinks of the "received wisdom" about the film)?
And, for context, what are examples of films she's written favorable reviews for?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 15:47:18 GMT
I didn't like Moonlight. Call me a racist, but i didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 16:00:27 GMT
But what did she think of the film itself (as opposed to what she thinks of the "received wisdom" about the film)? And, for context, what are examples of films she's written favorable reviews for? She said it was beautiful to look at, but the story was nothing special. Although she said the exact same for La La Land and still gave it 5 stars. |
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Post by alexhurricanehiggins on Feb 21, 2017 16:22:04 GMT
These SJW types must be fun at parties.
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Post by vespertine on Feb 21, 2017 16:40:54 GMT
How dared she not to like a movie about black gays?  |
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Post by angel on Feb 21, 2017 16:47:26 GMT
But what did she think of the film itself (as opposed to what she thinks of the "received wisdom" about the film)? And, for context, what are examples of films she's written favorable reviews for? It was part of a double review of Moonlight and Hidden Figures (which she also slated). She was similarly criticized for her review of I, Daniel Blake last year which she called “povvo safari for middle-class do-gooders” and “misery porn for smug Londoners” which apparently led to a twitter war between her and the director Ken Loach. She absolutely adored La La Land though. |
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Post by Spleen on Feb 21, 2017 18:41:19 GMT
Being called a racist today means nothing. I mean people scream racisms about pretty much everything. Yep. Not that we can really judge either way based on the samples we've been presented with here. |
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Post by angel on Feb 21, 2017 19:50:14 GMT
Being called a racist today means nothing. I mean people scream racisms about pretty much everything. Yep. Not that we can really judge either way based on the samples we've been presented with here. Yes I know, sorry about that. It was only after I had finished my post I realized the Sunday Times article in question was only available on subscription only online. Somebody on another site managed to scan the review here: here where you could at least read the full review and get a little more context. |
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Post by Spleen on Feb 21, 2017 22:28:39 GMT
Yep. Not that we can really judge either way based on the samples we've been presented with here. Yes I know, sorry about that. It was only after I had finished my post I realized the Sunday Times article in question was only available on subscription only online. Somebody on another site managed to scan the review here: here where you could at least read the full review and get a little more context. Interesting. The apparent racism vanishes when one reads the context and sees the point Long is making (and it's a point that I agree with; calling this film relevant is ridiculous). It's hard not to feel that people who accuse her of racism have been guilty of deliberately dishonest quote-mining. And actually, reading the article, I think Long is making good points, ones I mostly agree with. I think the great strengths of Moonlight lie in its images and lyrical beauty and mood, and so does she - she just doesn't think (and this is where we part company) that this is enough to make an outstanding film. But the emptiness of the story is a valid concern. I certainly agree there was something lacking here. The film is actually less substantial, as well as less fun, than its allegedly fairy floss Oscars rival, La La Land. |
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Post by misternick on Feb 21, 2017 23:53:26 GMT
Being called a racist today means nothing. I mean people scream racisms about pretty much everything. Exactly. like last year's Oscar are so white. God forbid you won't love a movie made about the black people's problems.  ![]() |
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Post by outrider127 on Feb 22, 2017 17:21:29 GMT
I didn't like Moonlight. Call me a racist, but i didn't. Most people are not even bothering to ever see it--Only grossed $20 mil in the USA despite being out for months |
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