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Post by ck100 on Sept 5, 2021 4:21:27 GMT
Either you think it's one of the greatest movies of all-time, one of the most overrated movies of all-time, or you fall in between the two.
Leonard Maltin Movie Guide Review:
Citizen Kane (1941) - 4 out of 4 stars
"Welles' first and best, a film that broke all the rules and invented some new ones, with fascinating story of Hearst-like publisher's rise to power. The cinematography (by Gregg Toland), music score (by Bernard Herrmann), and Oscar-winning screenplay (by Welles and Herman J. Mankiewicz) are all first-rate. A stunning film in every way...and Welles was only 25 when he made it! Incidentally, the reporter with a pipe is Alan Ladd; Arthur O'Connell is another one of the reporters."
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 5, 2021 4:24:03 GMT
My #3 all-time. Masterpiece.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Sept 5, 2021 4:49:12 GMT
It's one of the most overrated movies ever made. It's a painfully dull, pretentious, self-indulgent crap.
About as entertaining as watching paint dry.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 5, 2021 4:50:34 GMT
I love that trailer. It’s so unique.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Sept 5, 2021 6:14:25 GMT
Still have never seen it.
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Post by James on Sept 5, 2021 12:13:43 GMT
Classic.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Sept 5, 2021 12:27:08 GMT
I first watched Citizen Kane in 2001 i think it was, did not care for it and rated it 3/10
I watched it again in 2018 i think it was, and i liked it a lot more and rated it 7/10
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Sept 5, 2021 12:35:24 GMT
Good movie but not one of my favorites. Its cinematography is among the best ever. I still plan to buy the Criterion Collection 4K when released in November.  |
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Post by Captain Spencer on Sept 5, 2021 14:10:15 GMT
I like Citizen Kane and have a great deal of respect for it, but I don't think it's one of the greatest movies of all time.
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Post by wmcclain on Sept 5, 2021 20:39:04 GMT
Citizen Kane (1941), directed by Orson Welles. The nonlinear life, loves and death of a wealthy newspaper magnate. Told in flashbacks as journalists try to figure out how to write his life. It has monomaniacal focus on Kane's character and ambition and the puzzles of his personality. Is he trying to buy or command love because his parents were cold? Who really knew him? Did he ever love anyone? What did his dying words mean? Such concentration on one huge ego is wearying. He doesn't change or develop at all: from young and ambitious to old and rigid, he's the same person and it's all about him. He never achieves any self-knowledge, or even considers that he should. It is a good film, with especially impressive special effects (often meant to be invisible) but I do not understand the cult of " Citizen Kane as the best film of all time." It was made by a certified boy genius and employed much innovative photography; does that make it a great film? Welles said he learned everything by watching John Ford pictures; why is there no cult of The Grapes of Wrath (1940) or How Green Was My Valley (1941)? It is almost without humor. Oddly enough, I have a hard time taking such a film seriously. In his commentary, Ebert (a huge fan) calls it a "shallow masterpiece": plenty of surface detail but not much depth. You might classify it with other films that present mysteries which are never solved, like The Birds (1963) or Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975). I know I'm in the minority, but I've seen even harsher critics: Bernard Herrmann score. Available on Blu-ray with two commentary tracks: Roger Ebert and Peter Bogdanovich. Ebert's is almost entirely about camera and lighting technique and the clever stage construction. He says "what is the best film ever?" is a pointless question, but he answers Citizen Kane because he likes watching it. Bogdanovich's is more or less a subset of Ebert's and repeats some of the same stories. 
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 5, 2021 20:44:15 GMT
I never knew that Ingmar Bergman disliked Orson Welles.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 5, 2021 22:43:02 GMT
Not a personal favorite, but a great film (8/10). Hard to refute it's invention or influence.  |
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Post by phantomparticle on Sept 6, 2021 1:42:54 GMT
Back in the mid sixties while casually searching the three available tv channels I came across the beginning of the movie where the camera stealthily moves past the no trespassing warning to a mysterious house on a hilltop. Thinking it was a horror movie I had never seen before, I settled back to watch. It didn't take long to discover it wasn't a horror film, but I really liked what I was watching and stayed with it to the end. Never forgot it and today I own the WB edition of the dvd.
Like DW Griffith, Welles is often lauded for inventing things that others had already done (putting ceilings on his sets for low angle shots). The director credited John Ford westerns for his inspiration, but I'm sure he spent a lot of time studying film from every era and perspective. His particular genius (much like Griffith) was understanding how to utilize every cinematic advancement since Melies and unify them into a concise visual pattern that would hold the audience to the finish, even if they had no identification with a series of selfish, pathetic and obnoxious characters.
So, maybe my original expectation that this was a horror movie proved correct, it you consider that Kane, like some malevolent spider in the center of its web, destroyed everyone and everything that came in contact with him.
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Post by marianne48 on Sept 6, 2021 2:05:41 GMT
IMO, everything Bergman claims here about Welles is more applicable to himself.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 6, 2021 2:55:32 GMT
Funny about the “personal favorite” thing: Citizen Kane is a personal favorite of mine, and I consider it deserving of almost all the plaudits. I imagine that if it didn’t have the “greatest movie ever made” baggage attached, some opinions here might be different.
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Post by OldAussie on Sept 6, 2021 9:03:22 GMT
Of all the so-called "great" movies, Kane is the most entertaining.
Moving easily from tragic to comic and back again, it has a script which somehow manages to keep pace with the great visuals.
Pretty close to 10/10 for me.
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Post by 博:Dr.BLΔD€:锯 on Sept 8, 2021 10:03:54 GMT
I think it is a smashing movie. I don't give a flying, rat's wosname about ratings or opinions on it's relevance and need to eulogise or denigrate.
I loved it.
I actually saw it on the big screen with a date in a back street retro London cinema that specialised in classic movies.
The cinematography I found was ace and striking....made (as it was) for the big screen.
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