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Post by hi224 on Sept 10, 2021 15:35:17 GMT
Really getting savaged damn.
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Post by forca84 on Sept 10, 2021 16:25:34 GMT
From what I gathered he's a loathsome character... But this seems like only fans of the musical would enjoy it. Can it be worse than "Cats"?
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Post by hi224 on Sept 10, 2021 16:28:24 GMT
From what I gathered he's a loathsome character... But this seems like only fans of the musical would enjoy it. Can it be worse than "Cats"? I mean he gaslights a family into believing a fictional friendship between him and their son soooo not sure at all. But jail for everyone said a review.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 10, 2021 16:32:50 GMT
From what I gathered he's a loathsome character... But this seems like only fans of the musical would enjoy it. Can it be worse than "Cats"? I really don’t mind if the lead character is loathsome as long as the movie makes it interesting. But if the movie is incompetently made, that’s something different.
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Post by hi224 on Sept 10, 2021 16:48:51 GMT
From what I gathered he's a loathsome character... But this seems like only fans of the musical would enjoy it. Can it be worse than "Cats"? I really don’t mind if the lead character is loathsome as long as the movie makes it interesting. But if the movie is incompetently made, that’s something different. I mean the problem is we are supposed to view Evan as relateable, and not find his gaslight contentious as much as misguided, but that aside it also uses a characters suicide as a catalyst for others growth without really exploring character in question itself.
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Post by spooner5020 on Sept 10, 2021 18:07:56 GMT
HOLY SHIT A 46%? YIKES!!! There seemed to be promise too knowing who was directing, but when I saw the writer I knew the movie was in trouble.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 13, 2021 20:54:13 GMT
So wait... the main character is depressed throughout. And now I find out he takes credit where it isn't due, so he's a liar?
A movie about a depressed liar. With singing. Count me out.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Oct 2, 2021 9:20:56 GMT
I was not going to see it, and then I thought that I would—until I learned that Dear Evan Hansen is a musical.
So now I am again not planning to see it ...
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Post by hi224 on Oct 3, 2021 0:18:03 GMT
I was not going to see it, and then I thought that I would—until I learned that Dear Evan Hansen is a musical. So now I am again not planning to see it ... What's wrong with musicals?.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Oct 3, 2021 7:11:27 GMT
I was not going to see it, and then I thought that I would—until I learned that Dear Evan Hansen is a musical. So now I am again not planning to see it ... What's wrong with musicals?. ... nothing, and there are some terrific classic musicals that I have seen in the theater in recent years, such as The Sound of Music (Robert Wise, 1965), West Side Story (Jerome Robbins and Robert Wise, 1961), South Pacific (Joshua Logan, 1958), Irving Berlin's White Christmas (Michael Curtiz, 1954), and Singin' in the Rain (Stanely Donen and Gene Kelly, 1952). (I have actually seen each at least twice in the theater since December 2014.) And in terms of contemporary musicals, I found La La Land (Damien Chazelle, 2016) to be "good" (if problematic and overrated) and The Greatest Showman (Michael Gracey, 2017) to be better. But musicals do not constitute my favorite genre, either. I was not terribly attracted to the material in Dear Evan Hansen, but as a straight drama, it held some intrigue. As a musical, it holds less. I would not rule out seeing it, but doing so is not a priority. Have you viewed the film, or do you plan to? Ironically, I have seen the theatrical trailer a couple of times, and there is no overt indication in the trailer that the movie is a musical. Either the studios involved wanted to hide that fact or, more likely, they supposed that the intended audience already knew that it would be a musical.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 3, 2021 7:21:40 GMT
What's wrong with musicals?. ... nothing, and there are some terrific classic musicals that I have seen in the theater in recent years, such as The Sound of Music (Robert Wise, 1965), West Side Story (Jerome Robbins and Robert Wise, 1961), South Pacific (Joshua Logan, 1958), Irving Berlin's White Christmas (Michael Curtiz, 1954), and Singin' in the Rain (Stanely Donen and Gene Kelly, 1952). (I have actually seen each at least twice in the theater since December 2014.) And in terms of contemporary musicals, I found La La Land (Damien Chazelle, 2016) to be "good" (if problematic and overrated) and The Greatest Showman (Michael Gracey, 2017) to be better. But musicals do not constitute my favorite genre, either. I was not terribly attracted to the material in Dear Evan Hansen, but as a straight drama, it held some intrigue. As a musical, it holds less. I would not rule out seeing it, but doing so is not a priority. Have you viewed the film, or do you plan to? Ironically, I have seen the theatrical trailer a couple of times, and there is no overt indication in the trailer that the movie is a musical. Either the studios involved wanted to hide that fact or, more likely, they supposed that the intended audience already knew that it would be a musical. I mean what's more baffling to me is how the musical swept the Tony's within 2016. If it's as problematic as a film how does it mostly translate better via stage at all? Also im slightly piqued that the whole musical beat the great comet of around 1812 which actually is a much better musical. All that aside, Dear Evan Hansens ultimate success was baffling and it's adaptation seems to further highlight the flaws.
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Post by onethreetwo on Oct 3, 2021 8:10:04 GMT
88% audience score. I'm still interested.
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Post by timshelboy on Oct 4, 2021 19:51:27 GMT
a feeble anaemic thing with identical cookie cutter tunes. 3/10
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Post by timshelboy on Oct 4, 2021 20:00:28 GMT
From what I gathered he's a loathsome character... But this seems like only fans of the musical would enjoy it. Can it be worse than "Cats"? I really don’t mind if the lead character is loathsome as long as the movie makes it interesting. But if the movie is incompetently made, that’s something different. Exhibits A and B below support your theory Neither are musicals although BOB ROBERTS is a bit of a folk musician Sadly Robbins would not allow a soundtrack in case the songs - includng DRUGS STINK - were appropriated by the Right
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Post by timshelboy on Oct 4, 2021 20:45:17 GMT
From what I gathered he's a loathsome character... But this seems like only fans of the musical would enjoy it. Can it be worse than "Cats"? I'm going to be brave and say I thought CATS was watchable/of interest - much better than expected (although it was crucified by critics so not expecting much)a 5/10 from me - and a million times more fun than EVAN HANSEN. Some nice choreography and one real belter in the CATS score (Jennifer Hudson gets it). The leads were unknown (to me) professional dancers and were OK. Didn't notice Judi's undies, or whatever caused the SFX row.
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Post by Nora on Oct 4, 2021 21:29:39 GMT
looking forward to seeing it. I like Ben Platt a lot.
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Post by forca84 on Oct 5, 2021 20:55:37 GMT
From what I gathered he's a loathsome character... But this seems like only fans of the musical would enjoy it. Can it be worse than "Cats"? I'm going to be brave and say I thought CATS was watchable/of interest - much better than expected (although it was crucified by critics so not expecting much)a 5/10 from me - and a million times more fun than EVAN HANSEN. Some nice choreography and one real belter in the CATS score (Jennifer Hudson gets it). The leads were unknown (to me) professional dancers and were OK. Didn't notice Judi's undies, or whatever caused the SFX row. I admit to not having seen "Cats". But it seems to be the benchmark of a "bad musical". I just remember the movie getting mercilessly roasted online. Me? I'm not a huge fan of musicals. But have seen "Rent" and the original "Westside story" movies. As a kid I saw "The Phantom of the Opera" in Toronto and am a fan of that.
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Post by timshelboy on Oct 5, 2021 21:09:58 GMT
I'm going to be brave and say I thought CATS was watchable/of interest - much better than expected (although it was crucified by critics so not expecting much)a 5/10 from me - and a million times more fun than EVAN HANSEN. Some nice choreography and one real belter in the CATS score (Jennifer Hudson gets it). The leads were unknown (to me) professional dancers and were OK. Didn't notice Judi's undies, or whatever caused the SFX row. I admit to not having seen "Cats". But it seems to be the benchmark of a "bad musical". I just remember the movie getting mercilessly roasted online. Me? I'm not a huge fan of musicals. But have seen "Rent" and the original "Westside story" movies. As a kid I saw "The Phantom of the Opera" in Toronto and have am fan of that. CABARET is the one to go for if you don't like the genre - all the songs are staged naturalistically (in the KitKat club plus one in a beer garden) - so you don't get perky nuns trilling their way through Alpine glades, or trios of sailors on leave suddenly dancing and singing about dames, or June busting out all over. SWEET CHARITY is my favourite - Fosse having so much fun with genre tropes it would drive Musical naysayers to run screaming from the room. How many seconds of this can you handle? You're entering a world of pain! Worst Musical ? I loathed the first ANNIE with a passion and DEEP IN MY HEART was a stinker. I'd put WEST SIDE STORY in the top 5.
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Post by forca84 on Oct 5, 2021 21:20:29 GMT
I admit to not having seen "Cats". But it seems to be the benchmark of a "bad musical". I just remember the movie getting mercilessly roasted online. Me? I'm not a huge fan of musicals. But have seen "Rent" and the original "Westside story" movies. As a kid I saw "The Phantom of the Opera" in Toronto and have am fan of that. CABARET is the one to go for if you don't like the genre - all the songs are staged naturalistically (in the KitKat club plus one in a beer garden) - so you don't get perky nuns trilling their way through Alpine glades, or trios of sailors on leave suddenly dancing and singing about dames, or June busting out all over. SWEET CHARITY is my favourite - Fosse having so much fun with genre tropes it would drive Musical naysayers to run screaming from the room. How many seconds of this can you handle? You're entering a world of pain! Worst Musical ? I loathed the first ANNIE with a passion and DEEP IN MY HEART was a stinker. I'd put WEST SIDE STORY in the top 5. The years and years we suffered being forced to watch that damn "Annie" movie in School. 🙄 Oh and I do like "My Fair Lady". I'm an Audrey Hepburn fan. It's a good movie.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Oct 10, 2021 7:44:21 GMT
The years and years we suffered being forced to watch that damn "Annie" movie in School. 🙄 Oh and I do like "My Fair Lady". I'm an Audrey Hepburn fan. It's a good movie. I concur. I did not care for it when I first viewed it in the theater, in November 2015, but I enjoyed My Fair Lady much better when I saw it again in the theater, in February 2019. I suppose that with a second screening, I received a better feel for the film's essentially comic nature and thus the coda no longer seemed like a copout. And of course, the costuming and set designs are gorgeous. In addition to the musicals that I cited earlier, I would also mention An American in Paris (Vincente Minnelli, 1951), which I viewed in the theater in January 2020, as a "good/very good" film. It combines some memorable supplementary location shooting in Paris with stunningly colorful and intricate song-and-dance sequences. The editing, set design, costuming, and cinematography are excellent, the film is full of rambunctious, humorous energy, and Gene Kelly and Leslie Caron both deliver winning performances.
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