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Post by Winston Wolf on Sept 19, 2021 17:28:26 GMT
(I mean, not really since he came back to life, but whatever)
Speaking from the Catholic viewpoint here — although I’m assuming there’s not much of a difference in other denominations of Christianity — why do we still go to hell? If it was for original sin, why do we still need to do first confession/communion if it’s been taken care of?
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Post by clusium on Sept 19, 2021 18:33:33 GMT
(I mean, not really since he came back to life, but whatever) Speaking from the Catholic viewpoint here — although I’m assuming there’s not much of a difference in other denominations of Christianity — why do we still go to hell? If it was for original sin, why do we still need to do first confession/communion if it’s been taken care of? We still have free will to either choose to be with God or reject Him. That's why.
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Post by The Lost One on Sept 20, 2021 9:47:31 GMT
(I mean, not really since he came back to life, but whatever) Speaking from the Catholic viewpoint here — although I’m assuming there’s not much of a difference in other denominations of Christianity — why do we still go to hell? If it was for original sin, why do we still need to do first confession/communion if it’s been taken care of? Isn't the idea that you have to accept Jesus to avoid hell? He didn't die for those who reject him I guess. That's the standard Protestant view. The Catholic viewpoint of course also requires you to do good works, the idea being that those who say they accept Jesus but do bad things (without atoning for them), haven't really accepted him. The Protestant view also implicitly accepts this - there's no requirement for good works, but it is assumed that someone who accepts Jesus will do good things. The Orthodox view is the most accommodating - those who don't accept Jesus but do good works have unknowingly accepted the Holy Spirit and so are saved. The Catholic Church makes a similar allowance but only for those who could not be expected to accept Jesus (eg those who never heard of him or had a very bad experience with the Church). Some Protestant churches do the same but definitely not all of them.
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Post by Winter_King on Sept 20, 2021 10:29:19 GMT
(I mean, not really since he came back to life, but whatever) Speaking from the Catholic viewpoint here — although I’m assuming there’s not much of a difference in other denominations of Christianity — why do we still go to hell? If it was for original sin, why do we still need to do first confession/communion if it’s been taken care of? Catholics says that salvation requires faith and good works so if you're a Catholic but do bad things you might go to hell. Or purgatory.
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Post by rizdek on Sept 20, 2021 12:49:17 GMT
(I mean, not really since he came back to life, but whatever) Speaking from the Catholic viewpoint here — although I’m assuming there’s not much of a difference in other denominations of Christianity — why do we still go to hell? If it was for original sin, why do we still need to do first confession/communion if it’s been taken care of? I think they would say you don't go to hell for sin...but rather because you reject the gift of eternal salvation. The gift of salvation is eternal life and it is offered because Jesus died for sin. If that is rejected, you don't get eternal salvation with God but rather an everlasting existence without God. That's what they'd call hell. And I'm speaking of the rhetorical 'you' not you personally.
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2021 22:24:31 GMT
Speaking from the Catholic viewpoint here — although I’m assuming there’s not much of a difference in other denominations of Christianity... lol
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2021 23:14:38 GMT
Isn't the idea that you have to accept Jesus to avoid hell? He didn't die for those who reject him I guess. That's the standard Protestant view. If I throw a drowning man a life preserver, it wouldn't make much sense to say it wasn't for him if he doesn't take it.
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Sept 21, 2021 1:32:07 GMT
Jesus’ sacrifice only covers original sin. We can still murder, rape, steal, bear false witness, eat shellfish, engage in charging interest on loans, say Allah’s name in vain, and disrespect our parents in our lifetimes, which could land us in hell depending on how repentant we are.
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Post by The Lost One on Sept 21, 2021 9:17:41 GMT
Isn't the idea that you have to accept Jesus to avoid hell? He didn't die for those who reject him I guess. That's the standard Protestant view. If I throw a drowning man a life preserver, it wouldn't make much sense to say it wasn't for him if he doesn't take it. Good point, bad wording on my part.
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