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Post by OldSamVimes on Nov 18, 2021 14:15:48 GMT
I did a lot of end of life care in nursing homes for around 10 years so I was present for 50-75 deaths (estimate).
As far as my personal life, I've lost pretty much everyone in my family that was older than me. I'm the eldest and believe it or not I'm not even 50 yet.
Something I believe, is death is an illusion. (Vedanta philosophy resonates with me).
My kids would sometimes ask me 'Where Grandma and Grandpa' are.
My answer to them is 'They're not trapped in their bodies anymore'.
They're the sunlight shining through the trees.
They're the light glistening on the waves.
They're in the sound of the wind, in the songs of the birds.
They're in everything beautiful you see.
What do you think of death?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 18, 2021 17:04:24 GMT
I think death is a natural thing, and its silly to fear it.
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Post by Admin on Nov 18, 2021 17:46:29 GMT
I think death is a natural thing, and its silly to fear it. What do you think fear is?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 18, 2021 17:50:58 GMT
I think death is a natural thing, and its silly to fear it. What do you think fear is? an unpleasant emotion caused by the threat of danger, pain, or harm. Of course anxiety is probably a better word to use. But i did not think of that when i answered the question.
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Post by Admin on Nov 18, 2021 17:54:20 GMT
What do you think fear is? an unpleasant emotion caused by the threat of danger, pain, or harm. Of course anxiety is probably a better word to use. But i did not think of that when i answered the question. Danger, pain, harm. All precursors to death.
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Post by shadrack on Nov 18, 2021 19:44:21 GMT
"You only get one life. There's no God, no rules, no judgements except those you accept or create for yourself. And once it's over, it's over. Dreamless sleep forever and ever. So why not be happy while you're here." - Nate, Six Feet Under
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Post by Admin on Nov 18, 2021 20:03:08 GMT
"You only get one life. There's no God, no rules, no judgements except those you accept or create for yourself. And once it's over, it's over. Dreamless sleep forever and ever. So why not be happy while you're here." - Nate, Six Feet Under Didn't he say that while he was mourning Lisa?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 18, 2021 20:06:35 GMT
Are you really Scandinavian? Are you asking me ?
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Post by shadrack on Nov 18, 2021 20:12:59 GMT
"You only get one life. There's no God, no rules, no judgements except those you accept or create for yourself. And once it's over, it's over. Dreamless sleep forever and ever. So why not be happy while you're here." - Nate, Six Feet Under Didn't he say that while he was mourning Lisa? No, he says it after he dies, at which point the character we see on-screen isn't really Nate -- it's just a figment of Claire's imagination. Technically, I guess that means the quote should be attributed to her, or to the writers, but that's just too nit-picky for me.
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Post by Admin on Nov 18, 2021 20:24:13 GMT
Didn't he say that while he was mourning Lisa? No, he says it after he dies, at which point he isn't really there -- he's just a figment of Claire's imagination. Technically, I guess that means the quote should be attributed to her, or to the writers, but that's just too nit-picky for me. After he died, he was definitely a figment of her imagination. It's not nit-picky to actually follow the script, and I don't think Nate actually sang "I Just Want to Celebrate." lol. So, yeah, it was unarguably Claire's projection. I believe this is an important distinction given the characters and their development throughout the show.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 18, 2021 21:20:53 GMT
For me it’ll be the end of everything I am now.
Hopefully I won’t leave too many bad memories.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 18, 2021 21:50:24 GMT
Hopefully technology will advance where I can just insert my brain into a robot and become immortal
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Post by Admin on Nov 18, 2021 23:08:57 GMT
Hopefully technology will advance where I can just insert my brain into a robot and become immortal You'll need to find an immortal robot first.
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Post by mystery on Nov 19, 2021 0:19:17 GMT
I walk on the woo side of the street, so I do believe in the afterlife. However, I also think the worlds are separated for a reason. I have an unusual ghost story, where my ghost almost never communicated with words. Instead, he showed me symbols and riddles that I had to decipher. I really struggled with it, because I'm honestly not very good at riddles, but when I did eventually figure out what he was saying, it was always pretty profound, and mindboggling. Sometimes the messages were just guidance and advice, but other times they were warnings about things that were going to happen in the near future. He was never wrong. The few times he spoke out loud were usually when I was obliviously walking into danger. He started screaming at me to get out of there, and then I realized what was happening and quickly got myself to safely, but just barely. He probably saved my life a time or two, at least. I took a lot of risks, mainly because I knew he'd warn me if I was getting myself into trouble.
But, it got harder to cope with as time went on, and I finally couldn't handle it anymore. Life was getting too weird, and I just wanted normalcy. He realized it was hurting me, so he left. I stopped practicing my spirituality, and I suddenly became incredibly accident prone, to the point where I started to wonder how long I was going to survive. Today, I don't take nearly as many risks as I used to, which is fine. I've actually learned a lot from my spiritual hiatus, just to better understand humanity and what it's like to live head-blind, so to speak. I'll go back to my faith when I'm ready. I just had a lot of things to sort out.
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Post by gadreel on Nov 19, 2021 1:09:00 GMT
Death is just a thing, we can't avoid it, we can't change it. There is no point worrying about it.
I personally would like if there was an afterlife, and I act as if there is, although I am one of the (probably minority) of Christians that think that the true message of Christianity is transformation of the current life not reward in the next, so the existence of an after life is not a required part of my faith.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 19, 2021 2:59:01 GMT
I appreciate the poetic ideas of death and becoming part of the universe, but is that YOU anymore?
I think you are just going to confuse your children telling them stuff like that.
As far as I can tell, death is the end of a person's existence. The "soul" doesn't go anywhere, it just ceases to exist.
This is a very sad and frustrating truth, but I am not going to try and convince myself that I continue on in some way just because I am not comfortable with reality.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 19, 2021 3:02:14 GMT
Death is just a thing, we can't avoid it, we can't change it. There is no point worrying about it. I personally would like if there was an afterlife, and I act as if there is, although I am one of the (probably minority) of Christians that think that the true message of Christianity is transformation of the current life not reward in the next, so the existence of an after life is not a required part of my faith. It doesn't matter that there isn't a point in worrying about it. We simply do. If we didn't have those worries and fears about death, I don't think we would be as good at surviving. I do appreciate your more realist view of Christianity though. I assume you mean that the message of Christianity the way you see it, is to try and make this life as good and as moral as possible.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 19, 2021 6:44:02 GMT
It doesn't matter that there isn't a point in worrying about it. We simply do. If we didn't have those worries and fears about death, I don't think we would be as good at surviving. I do appreciate your more realist view of Christianity though. I assume you mean that the message of Christianity the way you see it, is to try and make this life as good and as moral as possible. That death treats everyone equally might be one of the reasons people had to invent the afterlife. They need to feel superior even in death, so they get to go to heaven while those beneath them go to hell. That is definitely part of it.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 19, 2021 9:01:48 GMT
Yes. I thought obsessing over death was a Scandinavian pastime, hence the Bergman reference. Yes i am really Scandinavian. No its not a Scandinavian pastime to obsess over death.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 19, 2021 9:18:05 GMT
Yes i am really Scandinavian. No its not a Scandinavian pastime to obsess over death. I think its time for Scandinavia to develop a sense of humor. Have you ever laughed? Because I doubt you have. I laugh when things are funny, you are not funny.
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