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Post by mortsahlfan on Dec 6, 2021 18:42:18 GMT
I tend to love these movies. I just used the term "Outcast" as am umbrella. It could be a 35-yr old woman who's a virgin (Rachel, Rachel) or a woman who might be shy, overweight (Sugarbaby)... Especially movies where there might be characters, but they're in the background while we see her in public, but also in private, when she's all alone. She might be masturbating, eating, crying, watching TV, but they usually get the audience to emphasize with her, although that isn't the important thing. It is nice to "fall in love" with a woman on screen, because you can sorta be in the movie, vicariously, maybe placing yourself in a role, where your imagination can roam free with hers. Anyway, I recommend those movies: -Rachel, Rachel (1967) -Sugarbaby (1985) - which is on Prime, but also on YouTube
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Post by Jason143 on Dec 6, 2021 18:53:13 GMT
You have weird taste.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Dec 6, 2021 19:38:24 GMT
Says the square who watches the same shit my 9-yr old cousin watches.
I hope "Spiderman" gives you the inspiration you need to move on.
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 6, 2021 19:47:56 GMT
“No Man Of Her Own” (1950). Barbara Stanwyck plays Helen, an unwed mother who is rejected by the heartless father (all he gives her is a train ticket out of town). On the train she meets a young married couple. The man is taking his pregnant wife to meet his wealthy family for the first time. The train crashes and the couple are killed. Helen decides to pass herself and unborn child off as the daughter-in-law they never met.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Dec 6, 2021 19:56:16 GMT
“No Man Of Her Own” (1950). Barbara Stanwyck plays Helen, an unwed mother who is rejected by the heartless father (all he gives her is a train ticket out of town). On the train she meets a young married couple. The man is taking his pregnant wife to meet his wealthy family for the first time. The train crashes and the couple are killed. Helen decides to pass herself and unborn child off as the daughter-in-law they never met.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm guessing this isn't a re-make of the movie with Clark Gable by the same title.
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Post by Lux on Dec 6, 2021 20:29:23 GMT
If you didn't know already that mortsahlfag is a colossal dork then you haven't been paying attention.
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 6, 2021 21:22:07 GMT
“No Man Of Her Own” (1950). Barbara Stanwyck plays Helen, an unwed mother who is rejected by the heartless father (all he gives her is a train ticket out of town). On the train she meets a young married couple. The man is taking his pregnant wife to meet his wealthy family for the first time. The train crashes and the couple are killed. Helen decides to pass herself and unborn child off as the daughter-in-law they never met.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm guessing this isn't a re-make of the movie with Clark Gable by the same title.
The Stanwyck film was based on a 1948 novel by Cornell Woolrich (whose books and stories provided a source for many fine films during the film noir years) called "I Married A Dead Man." The Gable/Lombard comedy was filmed way back in 1932.
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Post by Cat on Dec 6, 2021 21:40:29 GMT
Joan Crawford did a good and interesting job in A Woman's Face. She's really good at doing a frosty exterior, but she's also really pretty, and I thought she affected a dangerous but vulnerable outcast type woman really well by letting the disfigurement on her face put up walls around her. I really got the feeling it enabled her to live her second best self as a gangster because her eyes made me think there's a first best self she could be living if she wasn't disfigured. I liked it.
Fight Club isn't centered around Martha Singer, but I think HBC did a really good outcast type of character.
The middle-brother's wife in Ran also did a really good job, in my opinion, of being am outcast, albeit married. She's a really good character. She's vulnerable and a victim of the wars, but also conniving and dangerous. I think the situation turned her into the woman she needed to be to get revenge. It's all interpretation, but she's at the center if my favorite beheading scene in any movie.
Here's a good single outcast woman, I think:
From Chunking Express. She's quirky. She overplays California Dreaming at high volumes; she sneaks into people's apartments and adjusts things here and there. I sometimes wonder what she does in her spare time.
I thought Anne Hathaway did a really good job in Colossal. Perhaps she's more of a loser than an outcast, but she seemed like an outcast in her own mind.
Clea Duvall's character in The Faculty is one.
Both sisters in Ginger Snaps.
Sandra Oh in Double Happiness.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 6, 2021 21:49:04 GMT
MARTY A middle-aged butcher and a school teacher who have given up on the idea of love meet at a dance and fall for each other. Betsy Blair as Clara Snyder
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 6, 2021 22:24:11 GMT
Outcast woman - (1932) A prostitute newly arrived in the South Pacific finds herself at odds with a stern missionary determined to save her soul.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 6, 2021 22:27:16 GMT
A Patch of Blue A young woman isolated in an abusive situation "A blind, uneducated white girl is befriended by a black man, who becomes determined to help her escape her impoverished and abusive home life by introducing her to the outside world."
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 6, 2021 22:28:48 GMT
"In a remote woodland cabin, a small-town doctor discovers Nell - a beautiful young hermit-woman with many secrets."
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 6, 2021 22:31:01 GMT
Children of a Lesser God (1986) "A new speech teacher at a school for the deaf falls in love with the janitor, a deaf woman speechless by choice."
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Post by Cat on Dec 6, 2021 23:39:48 GMT
You know who else was a good single outcast woman? The main character from Pale Flower (1964).
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 7, 2021 0:09:27 GMT
Way Down East (1920)"A naïve country girl is tricked into a sham marriage by a wealthy womanizer, then must rebuild her life despite the taint of having borne a child out of wedlock."
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 7, 2021 0:12:34 GMT
The Scarlet Letter (1926)"After having a child out of wedlock, a young Puritan woman is pressured to reveal the name of her lover."
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Post by Lux on Dec 7, 2021 0:14:27 GMT
Never accidentally bookmark a thread the amount of fucking spammers.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 7, 2021 0:17:16 GMT
Lydia in The Fisher King
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Post by mortsahlfan on Dec 7, 2021 13:55:22 GMT
Just to add (in case no one saw the movies I mentioned in the OP).. Movies where the women are physically alone - being the only one on the screen for a good amount of time. Time to reflect, time to ponder, etc… Getting to know a character when she is alone, because she’s herself - not putting an act at work, for example, because she’s not being watched.
"Marty" is an excellent movie, but that revolves around him, and he's always around his mom or his buddy, "What are we gonna do?" - "I don't know, what are you gonna do?"
"She's a dog!" - of course, Betsy Blair isn't a dog by any means, but Hollywood knows better than to put someone hideous on the screen, knowing it wouldn't sell.
I liked "Pale Flower" a lot.. She's an intriguing character. Japanese noir.
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Post by Archelaus on Dec 7, 2021 19:23:52 GMT
Wanda (1970). Barbara Loden portrays an unemployed, divorced young woman who inadvertently joins a bank robber.
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