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Post by clusium on Dec 10, 2021 23:39:48 GMT
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not 3 distinct Entities. The Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit Are One and the Same God. You forget that the Holy Bible SPECIFICALLY SAYS that there Is Only God Who Is Worthy of all our worship. Therefore, the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit Is One and the Same Almighty God. OR... the Son and the Holy Spirit are not God. Nope...God Is the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit.
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Post by Admin on Dec 10, 2021 23:41:17 GMT
OR... the Son and the Holy Spirit are not God. Nope...God Is the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit. Ask the Son when heaven and earth shall pass away.
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Post by clusium on Dec 11, 2021 0:24:57 GMT
Nope...God Is the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit. Ask the Son when heaven and earth shall pass away. The Son Is Subordinate to the Father.
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Post by Admin on Dec 11, 2021 0:26:17 GMT
Ask the Son when heaven and earth shall pass away. The Son Is Subordinate to the Father. Oh. Well, I guess that explains why he forsook himself.
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 11, 2021 17:22:49 GMT
Ask the Son when heaven and earth shall pass away. The Son Is Subordinate to the Father. Face it, Admin, is a Catholic hater and is therefore extremely biased.
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Post by Admin on Dec 11, 2021 21:03:51 GMT
The Son Is Subordinate to the Father. Face it, Admin, is a Catholic hater and is therefore extremely biased. So you want to talk about me now? The Son does not know when heaven and earth shall pass away, but the Father does. The Son asked the Father why He forsake forsook him. The Son prays to the Father. The Father "sacrificed his only begotten son." The Trinity is not a biblical concept, but it is found in Nicene Creed. The Pope is just a man like any other. I don't hate Catholics. I just think Catholicism doesn't square with either the Bible or Christianity.
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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2021 8:33:27 GMT
So you want to talk about me now? The Son does not know when heaven and earth shall pass away, but the Father does. The Son asked the Father why He forsake forsook him. The Son prays to the Father. The Father "sacrificed his only begotten son." The Trinity is not a biblical concept, but it is found in Nicene Creed. The Pope is just a man like any other. I don't hate Catholics. I just think Catholicism doesn't square with either the Bible or Christianity. Thank you. It is quite evident that Jesus himself and the early Christians saw Christ as completely separate and distinct from the Father. The indoctrination runs deep in Catholicism. |
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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2021 10:01:35 GMT
The indoctrination runs deep in Catholicism. It's not only Catholicism, but mainstream Christian in general. The trinity is a heresy began in imperial Rome. What is "mainstream Christian[ity]" if not Catholicsm?
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Post by clusium on Dec 12, 2021 13:01:59 GMT
The Son Is Subordinate to the Father. If Jesus is God and the Father is God, how is God subordinate to himself? Second Person Of the Godhead Subordinate to the First Person Of the Godhead. Christ Had a Dual Nature: One Human & One Divine.
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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2021 19:50:03 GMT
What is "mainstream Christian[ity]" if not Catholicsm? Orthodox and Protestant, silly. All of them are mainstream? That doesn’t make sense. If every day was Christmas, it wouldn’t be Christmas. And besides, that isn’t what I asked. |
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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2021 21:54:01 GMT
All of them are mainstream? That doesn’t make sense. If every day was Christmas, it wouldn’t be Christmas. And besides, that isn’t what I asked. Since when can only one thing be mainstream? Since when can everything be mainstream? I'll rephrase: Define "mainstream Christianity," please and thank you.
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Post by Admin on Dec 13, 2021 3:14:54 GMT
Since when can everything be mainstream? I'll rephrase: Define "mainstream Christianity," please and thank you. Don't get hung up on "mainstream". There are plenty of Protestant fundamentalists who say Catholics aren't even Christian. But I'm referring to the three dominant branches of Christianity: 1) Eastern Orthodox 2) Roman Catholic 3) Protestant
I'm not hung up on it, I just wanted to know what it is. Thanks anyway.
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Post by clusium on Dec 13, 2021 15:40:01 GMT
I'm not hung up on it, I just wanted to know what it is. Thanks anyway. Lol. I'm just saying if "mainstream" is the wrong word substitute "dominant".
But as you showed, it's very clear in the original New Testament, Christ was completely separate from God the Father. Centuries later Rome invented this Trinity nonsense.
The Apostles believed Christ to Be Divine. While the word 'Trinity' may not have been invented until centuries later (same with the word 'Bible'), the Apostles clearly believed that God Came In the Flesh In the Person Of Jesus Christ.
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Post by clusium on Dec 13, 2021 19:45:27 GMT
The Apostles believed Christ to Be Divine. While the word 'Trinity' may not have been invented until centuries later (same with the word 'Bible'), the Apostles clearly believed that God Came In the Flesh In the Person Of Jesus Christ. God's son came into the flesh. But god the father was obviously still in heaven or why would Christ pray to him and speak to him as a separate entity?
The Second Person Prayed to the First Person. The Trinity Is 3 Persons In the One Godhead.
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Post by clusium on Dec 13, 2021 23:54:26 GMT
The Second Person Prayed to the First Person. The Trinity Is 3 Persons In the One Godhead. Well, that's your faith. Like I've said, I was raised Greek Orthodox and they believe in the trinity as well.
I just find it rather illogical.
For me, the Doctrine Of the Trinity shows how Unlimited the Awesome Power Of the Almighty Is: What is impossible for humanity, is not impossible with God.
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