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Post by jervistetch on Dec 30, 2021 8:43:28 GMT
Very interesting, PaulsLaugh. I had no idea.
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Post by Isapop on Dec 30, 2021 8:43:54 GMT
Thumper?
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Post by marianne48 on Dec 30, 2021 10:03:45 GMT
Thanks for posting this! This book deserves more appreciation for what it really is.
The book was on the list of those which were destroyed by the Nazis in their infamous book-burnings; few first-edition copies exist as a result.
I read this several times as a kid; not only was the scene of Gobo's death disturbing, but also the episode of the injured fox pleading with the hunter's dog, as a fellow animal, not to kill him. That scene alone should have suggested to Disney that there was more going on than just an animal story for kids.
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Post by london777 on Dec 30, 2021 13:50:42 GMT
Very interesting, PaulsLaugh. I had no idea. ditto Wikipedia lists eleven other movies adapted from Salten's work. Salten was a keen hunter himself. As a child I owned a collection of Salten short stories. All gave realistic and bleak pictures of animals' lives in the wild. I had no idea then that he was the author of Bambi. One book of his that sounds interesting is Josephine Mutzenbacher: The Life Story of a Viennese Whore, as Told by Herself.
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Post by timshelboy on Dec 30, 2021 14:40:22 GMT
Very interesting, PaulsLaugh. I had no idea. ditto Wikipedia lists eleven other movies adapted from Salten's work. Salten was a keen hunter himself. As a child I owned a collection of Salten short stories. All gave a realistic and bleak picture of animals lives in the wild. I had no idea then that he was the author of Bambi. One book of his that sounds interesting is Josephine Mutzenbacher: The Life Story of a Viennese Whore, as Told by Herself.
Banned in Austria in 1913 !!!!! and again in 1922 (reprint with hard core illustrations)! But in 1973 it was re-evaluated and judged to have "artistic tendencies" by no less an authority than the Supreme Court of Austria..... and published versions were finally allowed to run wild run free . There were 13 - count em - film adaptations between 1970* and 1994 - Oddly none of them were a Disney Studio Product  , and in truth I'm not sure the "political novel" within shone through any of them if the poster from the first is representative ..... * The first went by the title NAUGHTY KNICKERS in the UK - see the the ringing endorsement from CINEMA TODAY prominently quoted - and DIARY OF A 19th CENTURY JOY GIRL and/or SENSATIONAL JANINE in the USA - I may track it down and double bill it with BAMBI   Its available on cultpix  BTW one of the English Translations on Amazon of the novel has the subtitle "The Life Story of a Viennese Wench" 
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Post by Isapop on Dec 30, 2021 14:55:07 GMT
From Digby's Hullabaloo  I, too, was clueless of Bambi's origin, never having been curious about it. But something I have been curious about were any artistic or polemical works of anti anti semitism throughout the past centuries of European history. Emile Zola's work in the late 19th century first springs to mind. Then I found that in the late 18th century a successful play called "The Jew" was produced in England, and also exported. Salten's novel adds to my examples.
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 30, 2021 22:54:51 GMT
Great post, Paul's Laugh. Amazing and enlightening. Thanks.
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Post by teleadm on Dec 31, 2021 19:26:47 GMT
Very interesting, PaulsLaugh. I had no idea. ditto Wikipedia lists eleven other movies adapted from Salten's work. Salten was a keen hunter himself. As a child I owned a collection of Salten short stories. All gave realistic and bleak pictures of animals' lives in the wild. I had no idea then that he was the author of Bambi. One book of his that sounds interesting is Josephine Mutzenbacher: The Life Story of a Viennese Whore, as Told by Herself. When I did my Tour of Duty in the Royal Swedish Air Force where nothing happens, I remember seeing some German or Austrian movies on some old video's about Josephine Mutzenbacher, but they were so-called glad porn movies, or porn movies with a comic story attached to it. Don't remember much of them except that young horny men, sadly including me, had a good time watching them, at least two, but there might have been more made. (maybe ten when I looked it up) The Bambi connection I read about many years later
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 31, 2021 19:58:57 GMT
I first saw Bambi as a child and although the death of his mother was abrupt and sad I don’t recall feeling any trauma. I mainly remember laughing at the cute and funny bits.  |
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, and in truth I'm not sure the "political novel" within shone through any of them if the poster from the first is representative .....
