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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Jan 29, 2022 18:01:11 GMT
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Post by shadrack on Feb 2, 2022 10:34:54 GMT
LOLWUT? Psalms is a book of the Old Testament. which doesn't even mention Jesus for the simple fact that it was written hundreds of years before Jesus was born.
The first line of Psalm 110 is "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
No one knows for sure who the "my Lord" refers to, though the most likely candidates seem to be King David or his son, Solomon. In any case, it can't be Jesus because Jesus hadn't even been born yet.
Claiming it's Jesus is just wishful thinking on the part of (some) Christians.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 3, 2022 1:22:13 GMT
Heard about the Nephilim before. I wonder in the context for the Book of Genesis if their presence on Earth was the real reason for the great flood so God could just kill them off.
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Post by The Lost One on Feb 3, 2022 9:19:11 GMT
The 2014 Noah film made good use of the Nephilim
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Post by mikef6 on Feb 3, 2022 16:48:28 GMT
There are 12 more stories that petered out and were never finished: the twelve disciples of Jesus. Peter and John get some ink in the early going of Acts and Philip gets one story but then they fade away. The guy who really gets short shrift is Matthias who, in Acts 1:23-26, gets chosen by lots to replace the now dead Judas. Then poof, Matthias is gone forever.
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Post by mikef6 on Feb 3, 2022 16:53:45 GMT
LOLWUT? Psalms is a book of the Old Testament. which doesn't even mention Jesus for the simple fact that it was written hundreds of years before Jesus was born. The first line of Psalm 110 is "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." No one knows for sure who the "my Lord" refers to, though the most likely candidates seem to be King David or his son, Solomon. In any case, it can't be Jesus because Jesus hadn't even been born yet.
Claiming it's Jesus is just wishful thinking on the part of (some) Christians. After Jesus’ death and resurrection (whatever happened there), his followers were looking for a way to explain to others the meaning of his life and execution as a common criminal. A tough chore. So they searched the only scripture they knew of: the Hebrew Scriptures, now called the Old Testament (although Jews and Muslims do not think of it that way). They latched on to several passages from Psalms, mainly the so-called Royal Psalms which, it is widely believed, to be prayers/songs used at a king’s coronation. Psalm 110 was very important to them esp. the first verse (The Lord said to my lord: “Sit at my right hand…”) and the Melchizedek line. These verses and others were used to show potential converts that the story of Jesus had been foretold by scripture. Fundamentalist churches still use these out-of-context words to show how the history of the future can be found in the Bible. They also latched onto a few passages from the prophets that talked about a suffering king or savior (Isaiah). From these came the idea of Jesus as a “propitiation” (love that word), or ransom for humankind.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 4, 2022 2:53:48 GMT
LOWUT? Psalms is a book of the Old Testament. which doesn't even mention Jesus for the simple fact that it was written hundreds of years before Jesus was born.
The first line of Psalm 110 is "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
No one knows for sure who the "my Lord" refers to, though the most likely candidates seem to be King David or his son, Solomon. In any case, it can't be Jesus because Jesus hadn't even been born yet.
Claiming it's Jesus is just wishful thinking on the part of (some) Christians.
He’s first mentioned in Genesis, before Abram makes his own covenant with “the most high God,” El Elyon. Melchizedek is a Zedek priest (possibly a Phoenician god) of the Jebu or Jeru tribe in Salem…Jerusalem. His temple would be replaced by Solomon’s much later in the biblical narrative. The Samaritans claim Melchizedek’s temple was actually at their Temple on Mt Gerizim. It’s somewhat possible, based linguistic tracking, Zedek or Zadok, became associated with the Archangel Michael back in the early Hebrew’s less monotheistic days. The Zadokite priests fell to the wayside as the kohans took control of the Kingdom of Israel under Solomon’s religious life. This is probably the Hebrew/Samaritan schism. And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine: and he was [is] the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said, 'Blessed be Abram to the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth, And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand'. And he gave him tithe from all.— Genesis 14:18–20 However, not all Zadokites broke with Solomon’s Temple, the psalms praising Melchizedek are a tribute to them and their contribution to their mutual God. The early Christians later adopted the bread and wine Zadok tradition into their worship to mirror Jesus’ Last Supper identifying him as “a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” The NT Book of Hebrews has a long treatise on this. Jesus was redacted to be in the direct line of Zadokite priests. Ah, yes, editing happens... by humans!
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