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Post by cupcakes on May 24, 2017 13:23:43 GMT
tpfkar Deeyam, talk about trolling.
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Post by tickingmask on May 24, 2017 15:49:53 GMT
I've never been able to figure out what motivates people to try to spread around obviously fake news items such as this. Do you get frothy little wet dreams at the prospect that somebody might get fooled? Or do you have some other motive?
I just don't get it.
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Post by clusium on May 24, 2017 17:42:35 GMT
I've never been able to figure out what motivates people to try to spread around obviously fake news items such as this. Do you get frothy little wet dreams at the prospect that somebody might get fooled? Or do you have some other motive?
I just don't get it.
I got that off of FB. If it is fake news, then I was fooled. Sorry. |
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Post by Aj_June on May 24, 2017 17:46:49 GMT
I've never been able to figure out what motivates people to try to spread around obviously fake news items such as this. Do you get frothy little wet dreams at the prospect that somebody might get fooled? Or do you have some other motive?
I just don't get it.
I don't think she intentionally did that. She was just mistaken. That said I have little to no respect for people who create such rumours. We have enough problems already with people not being able to keep their emotions when such incidences occur. |
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Post by clusium on May 24, 2017 17:51:14 GMT
I've never been able to figure out what motivates people to try to spread around obviously fake news items such as this. Do you get frothy little wet dreams at the prospect that somebody might get fooled? Or do you have some other motive?
I just don't get it.
I don't think she intentionally did that. She was just mistaken. That said I have little to no respect for people who create such rumours. We have enough problems already with people not being able to keep their emotions when such incidences occur. Thanks AJ. |
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Post by cupcakes on May 24, 2017 18:18:40 GMT
tpfkar Yeah, I'm not so sure from a person attaboying Trump for trying to "put a ban on people from Muslim countries entering the USA". If it was unintentional it was highly irresponsible / inept.
And yes, your no great love for Christianity and Islam DOES equal bigotry & hatred. |
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Post by Aj_June on May 24, 2017 18:44:04 GMT
tpfkar Yeah, I'm not so sure from a person attaboying Trump for trying to "put a ban on people from Muslim countries entering the USA". If it was unintentional it was highly irresponsible / inept.
And yes, your no great love for Christianity and Islam DOES equal bigotry & hatred.Muslim ban proposition is wrong and extremely immature to say the least. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on May 24, 2017 19:34:25 GMT
tpfkar Yeah, I'm not so sure from a person attaboying Trump for trying to "put a ban on people from Muslim countries entering the USA". If it was unintentional it was highly irresponsible / inept.
And yes, your no great love for Christianity and Islam DOES equal bigotry & hatred.Muslim ban proposition is wrong and extremely immature to say the least. Right or wrong, it would be about as effective as banning Mexicans in the US to keep out the drug trade. |
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Post by islandmur on May 24, 2017 20:46:26 GMT
I totally disagree with that. Humor is not just humor sometimes. Because some humor is an attempt to hurt and belittle under the cover of "jokes". But if the category of people you're joking about is viewed as sub-human to begin with, you will find others that laugh with you. There is nothing humourous about a joke that delibaretly hurts someone or many someones on the basis that "bah" you shouldn't take it seriously it's just a joke. Your post to Cine about him not being alowed within 250 feet of kids is not a joke, you mean it to hurt him, that's why you say it, you don't say it to ellicit laughter, it's an insult not a joke. The same can be said about many (not all) of your jokes and those are the one that usually people chastise you for.
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Post by islandmur on May 24, 2017 20:52:15 GMT
I can imagine your blood must boiling over this!!!! Words escape me. It's not as if most of us couldn't see this coming for a while Clusium. They arrested a Muslim terrorist a stones throw from my house a couple of months ago that was just one of dozens of arrests related to Muslim extremism in Manchester over the last few years. Those of us who have been trying to draw attention to the very real dangers of increasing the Muslim population in the UK have been proven right the apologists have been proven wrong. I don't want any more Muslims in the UK,and this doesn't just relate to terrorism there social attitudes are largely incompatible with western secular values,they are intolerant and bigoted. It's now become time to have a national debate about Islam and its place in the UK. We will bury our dead children and grieve and to the Muslim apologists you will no longer keep us silent. Hey Superdude, I'm glad everyone is ok on your side. But I can't agree with your stance... thing is most people no matter their religious backgrounds are not terrorist. And refugees are usually fleeing for the same reasons you are scared. Anyways, be safe and take care of your kid... that's the important thing right now. Not a debate on the board. |
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Post by blade on May 24, 2017 21:13:18 GMT
Why isn't cine allowed within 250 feet of children?  |
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Post by thorshairspray on May 24, 2017 21:15:36 GMT
Words escape me. It's not as if most of us couldn't see this coming for a while Clusium. They arrested a Muslim terrorist a stones throw from my house a couple of months ago that was just one of dozens of arrests related to Muslim extremism in Manchester over the last few years. Those of us who have been trying to draw attention to the very real dangers of increasing the Muslim population in the UK have been proven right the apologists have been proven wrong. I don't want any more Muslims in the UK,and this doesn't just relate to terrorism there social attitudes are largely incompatible with western secular values,they are intolerant and bigoted. It's now become time to have a national debate about Islam and its place in the UK. We will bury our dead children and grieve and to the Muslim apologists you will no longer keep us silent. Hey Superdude, I'm glad everyone is ok on your side. But I can't agree with your stance... thing is most people no matter their religious backgrounds are not terrorist. And refugees are usually fleeing for the same reasons you are scared. Anyways, be safe and take care of your kid... that's the important thing right now. Not a debate on the board. I can see literally no benefit to continuing with large scale immigration. |
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Post by thorshairspray on May 24, 2017 21:19:40 GMT
I thought better of Vegas to be honest. What the hell did I do? I merely pointed out that Erjen's point that the killer was as much of a millennial as he was a Muslim wasn't a tasteless joke..... and... the usual hell was unleashed.. as usual. And as far as it goes..... No one is making a joke about these kids getting killed... That's just the usual asshole being the usual asshole.
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Nobody is actually doing, or saying, this... except for inside that delusional dipshit's head.
My bad, I thought you had posted a shitty joke, but it was actually Blade. Sorry for that. |
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Post by cupcakes on May 24, 2017 21:20:34 GMT
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Post by islandmur on May 24, 2017 21:22:01 GMT
Hey Superdude, I'm glad everyone is ok on your side. But I can't agree with your stance... thing is most people no matter their religious backgrounds are not terrorist. And refugees are usually fleeing for the same reasons you are scared. Anyways, be safe and take care of your kid... that's the important thing right now. Not a debate on the board. I can see literally no benefit to continuing with large scale immigration. Well the benefits are usually for the refugees not I would think the host country. It's like charity. I'm not usually for immigration (in general) by the way... I do think it would be more appropriate to help improve impoverish countries so citizens stay mostly in their country, because if I take Haiti as an example most would prefere to have been able to stay in Haiti if it had been viable for them to do so. |
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Post by thorshairspray on May 24, 2017 21:53:54 GMT
I can see literally no benefit to continuing with large scale immigration. Well the benefits are usually for the refugees not I would think the host country. It's like charity. I'm not usually for immigration (in general) by the way... I do think it would be more appropriate to help improve impoverish countries so citizens stay mostly in their country, because if I take Haiti as an example most would prefere to have been able to stay in Haiti if it had been viable for them to do so. But the migrant crisis in Europe isn't about refugees, Germany has around 350,000 Syrians, but took in around 2,000,000 people. Even if it was, moving refugees to Europe is the worst way of dealing with the problem. It is more expensive and more dangerous than it would be to create a safe zone in syria. Sweden currently sits at around 10% of its population being born outside the EU. Of those people less than 50% have jobs. It has a sizable Somali population, Somalia is about 8,000 miles from Sweden. Fleeing war has nothing to do with this. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on May 24, 2017 21:56:08 GMT
I can see literally no benefit to continuing with large scale immigration. Well the benefits are usually for the refugees not I would think the host country. It's like charity. I'm not usually for immigration (in general) by the way... I do think it would be more appropriate to help improve impoverish countries so citizens stay mostly in their country, because if I take Haiti as an example most would prefere to have been able to stay in Haiti if it had been viable for them to do so. It's got pluses and minuses. Keep refugees in an area where militants are creating a militant state, they're that much more likely to be indoctrinated and radicalized, especially if the alternative is starvation. Muslims in more progressive areas, especially second generation and beyond, have a much better rate of acclimation. Of course, open the door and it's MUCH easier to insert a radical or cell. One of the reasons liberals are pushing back so hard against the rise of "It's Islam, not individuals" in the US is that we've had hundreds of thousands of acclimated Muslims here for decades. No one worried a peep about them until 9-11, it's not as if they're suddenly terrorists. Our country has a history of violent subjugation of minorities - we're trying to keep this in mind while repeating "It's the radicals, not the group." Historically, group-blame has led to some hellish shit. |
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Post by islandmur on May 24, 2017 23:15:48 GMT
Well the benefits are usually for the refugees not I would think the host country. It's like charity. I'm not usually for immigration (in general) by the way... I do think it would be more appropriate to help improve impoverish countries so citizens stay mostly in their country, because if I take Haiti as an example most would prefere to have been able to stay in Haiti if it had been viable for them to do so. It's got pluses and minuses. Keep refugees in an area where militants are creating a militant state, they're that much more likely to be indoctrinated and radicalized, especially if the alternative is starvation. Muslims in more progressive areas, especially second generation and beyond, have a much better rate of acclimation. Of course, open the door and it's MUCH easier to insert a radical or cell. One of the reasons liberals are pushing back so hard against the rise of "It's Islam, not individuals" in the US is that we've had hundreds of thousands of acclimated Muslims here for decades. No one worried a peep about them until 9-11, it's not as if they're suddenly terrorists. Our country has a history of violent subjugation of minorities - we're trying to keep this in mind while repeating "It's the radicals, not the group." Historically, group-blame has led to some hellish shit. Must have not made the distinction clear my second paragraph was not about war refugees, but immigrants in general like haitians. That leave their countries not because of war or persecution but in search of a better life. |
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Post by thorshairspray on May 24, 2017 23:18:47 GMT
Well the benefits are usually for the refugees not I would think the host country. It's like charity. I'm not usually for immigration (in general) by the way... I do think it would be more appropriate to help improve impoverish countries so citizens stay mostly in their country, because if I take Haiti as an example most would prefere to have been able to stay in Haiti if it had been viable for them to do so. It's got pluses and minuses. Keep refugees in an area where militants are creating a militant state, they're that much more likely to be indoctrinated and radicalized, especially if the alternative is starvation. Muslims in more progressive areas, especially second generation and beyond, have a much better rate of acclimation. Of course, open the door and it's MUCH easier to insert a radical or cell. One of the reasons liberals are pushing back so hard against the rise of "It's Islam, not individuals" in the US is that we've had hundreds of thousands of acclimated Muslims here for decades. No one worried a peep about them until 9-11, it's not as if they're suddenly terrorists. Our country has a history of violent subjugation of minorities - we're trying to keep this in mind while repeating "It's the radicals, not the group." Historically, group-blame has led to some hellish shit. Europe isn't America. Something Americans, no offense, seem to not understand is that the Muslims you have in the US are basically the cream of the crop. America isn't easy to get into, you need to be skilled and affluent. The Muslims that have moved to the US are not the same social class as the one that have flooded Europe. Imagine 400,000 trailer parks....And British Muslims are becoming more radical and less Western, not more so. There is a real problem in the UK and Europe and people don't want to address it. Do you see things like this in the US? www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2nlIfn8tNAwww.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym3VFX6VrA8www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKipqzoyeicwww.youtube.com/watch?v=3VQk_VklYUcAnd yet there is a push in the UK to out law "Islamophibia" with the Met police warning people that they would be arrested for Tweeting about Islam..... ISIS said they were going to use the refugee crisis to get terror cells into Europe. NATO warned this would happen. The leaders of the EU simply put their fingers in their ears and proclaimed themselves to be good people and opened the doors to people with no means to support themselves in Europe, who don't speak the native languages are largely unskilled and uneducated in whos ranks were people bent on the destruction of The West. In terms of refugees, NATO should have enforced a safe zone on the Turkish border. |
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Post by cupcakes on May 25, 2017 0:27:46 GMT
tpfkar I don't think it is at all clear who wrote that. But like a lot of things that pop up on Facebook and regardless of provenance, it's a lot of words not saying too much. Yes, of course ISIS are Muslims, and just as we've been going round and round with in this thread, the IRA are Catholic. So are Integrist Catholics actual Catholics. Black and Indian-slaughtering Americans were actual Americans.
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