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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 18, 2022 9:22:34 GMT
Personally i don`t, i consider it listing to a book. You get the story but in a different way.
I mean if you listen to an album like Rubber Soul by the Beatles, you don`t say ( i assume) I read Rubber Soul, you say i listened to Rubber Soul
And no i am not saying its wrong listening to audiobooks, because its not.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Mar 19, 2022 1:54:28 GMT
Literally, no. But I still consider a book I listened to as a book I've "read". In my case, when I do listen to an audiobook, 90% of the time I listen to some of it and physically read some, so the line gets especially blurred.
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Post by mrdanwest on Mar 19, 2022 3:51:34 GMT
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Post by mstreepsucks on Mar 19, 2022 9:05:35 GMT
Only if you don't know how to read, sucka!
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Post by ant-mac on Mar 19, 2022 9:45:00 GMT
No, it's not reading.
It's listening.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 19, 2022 14:57:35 GMT
This has nothing to do with my question.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Mar 19, 2022 23:02:58 GMT
Only if it’s an unabridged recording.
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Post by mrdanwest on Mar 20, 2022 1:13:03 GMT
This has nothing to do with my question. Fair point. Let me see if I can explain my POV on this more clearly in my one words (and not come across as a lecturing snit.) My daughter lost her vision to a pediatric brain tumor 5 years ago (just before her 13th birthday) and was quite concerned that she be able to “read” books which was and activity that was very dear to her. Disputing our process of helping her research whether she was actually still “reading” we learned that the parts of your brain that processes story are the same regardless of whether you are reading a book visually or listening to is as an audiobook and they are different than the parts of your brain that process either music (an audio medium) or TV/film (an audio/visual medium). The main difference between reading words on a page and hearing them is the part of your brain that use as an on-ramp. With visual reading you mostly use the left side of you brain and it required more “decoding” efforts. With audio “reading” there is less decoding required and it actually uses more of a balance left/right brain effort. But in the end the language processing for written language and oral language are done through the exact same mental process. If fact processing story as a visual medium (through writing) is a fairly recent development in human history and for thousands of years language was purely an auditory function. So when humanity invented writing (and when people learn to read) the neural patterns that were (are) used to process written language were (are) the exact same ones that evolved to process speech. So that’s basically the simple scientific breakdown as I understand it. There are some more complex aspects to it on the decoding side having to do with prosody (pace/pitch/and rhythm) that you have to discover for your self when reading visually and are provide for you when you listen to to a reader. But where me and my daughter left is that yes, she is still reading when she listens to an audio book. (And, no, you are not reading Rubber Soul as that is being processed in a totally different part of the brain) (Afterthought: I don’t think anyone would question that a blind person reading via braille would count as real reading despite the fact that it is being done tactily rather than visually).
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Post by jackspicer on Apr 3, 2022 0:15:57 GMT
Personally i don`t, i consider it listing to a book. You get the story but in a different way. One way uses your eyes, and the other uses your ears, but the same information is being conveyed. Whether you read it yourself or someone else reads it to you makes no difference. But if you are focusing on the definition of 'read' as being vision-centric, there is a definition of "read" that could apply to audiobooks: A 'reader' need only grasp the meaning of printed material, while not actually seeing the words themselves.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 9, 2022 18:50:50 GMT
Nope. I tried, I just don't retain what I would from book.
Oddly, I enjoy podcast mini-series.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 11, 2022 22:21:13 GMT
Literally, no. But I still consider a book I listened to as a book I've "read". Pretty much. If someone asks me if I read American Psycho, do I say no because I listened to the audiobook?
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Post by llanwydd on Apr 11, 2022 23:22:19 GMT
I sometimes say I have read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. If the subject of conversation is strictly the books themselves and not my overall experience with them, I would rather not get off the subject. I don't consider that to be misleading. By the way, if you can find those books read by Edward Hermann they never get boring, not even the long speeches by the leading characters. During the time between my eyesight fading with age and my discovery of reading glasses, I ceased to be a voracious reader. Since then I have usually preferred audiobooks.
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Post by Marv on Apr 15, 2022 21:35:29 GMT
Yes. I check audiobooks off my ‘to read’ list. It’s not a wholly separate medium to me the way movies or a tv show based on a book are. It’s much closer to the source material even if not wholly pure.
But yea I consider myself to have effectively ‘read’ a book if I’ve listened to an audio recording of it.
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Post by Domestic Wife on May 23, 2022 2:38:13 GMT
In certain cases, yes I do. Especially for those who are visually impaired, or for those who've had a stroke, and it affected their vision as well. One of my daughters has given me an audiobook that I still need to listen to.
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Post by marianne48 on May 27, 2022 9:42:31 GMT
If the narrator has a good voice, I think it adds to the experience. I enjoyed listening to Frank McCourt's audiobooks, and I thought the audiobook version of The Help was better than the movie. I'm looking forward to listening to Putting the Rabbit in the Hat by Brian Cox, because I like that actor's voice, and David Sedaris' new book, Happy-Go-Lucky, because I've enjoyed his narration of previous books of his.
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