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Post by clusium on May 1, 2022 4:47:30 GMT
and which ones are least like Catholics?
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Post by Hnefahogg on May 1, 2022 10:58:28 GMT
Most: Eastern Orthodox Church
Least: Baptist
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Post by clusium on May 1, 2022 11:59:01 GMT
Most: Eastern Orthodox Church Least: Baptist In the video, Baptist was somewhere around the middle. I would say that that the Mormons and/or JWs are the least.
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Post by Hnefahogg on May 1, 2022 13:21:52 GMT
Most: Eastern Orthodox Church Least: Baptist In the video, Baptist was somewhere around the middle. I would say that that the Mormons and/or JWs are the least. I was only thinking of 'mainstream' Christians and did not consider them but yes, if they are included, that is probably true. |
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Post by mikef6 on May 1, 2022 20:53:35 GMT
In the U.S. the liturgy used by Episcopalians and Lutherans are very similar to Catholic liturgy but there still remains major differences between the two and Catholicism.
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Post by clusium on May 1, 2022 22:25:42 GMT
In the U.S. the liturgy used by Episcopalians and Lutherans are very similar to Catholic liturgy but there still remains major differences between the two and Catholicism. Episcopalianism is the American branch of the Anglican Church. The Episcopal Church is under the authority of the ArchBishop of Canterbury, but does not recognize the Crown as the Defender of the Faith.
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Post by Sarge on May 2, 2022 0:59:31 GMT
Eastern Orthodox, most like.
Pentecostal snake handlers, least like.
* Not all Pentecostals are snake handlers, and not all snake handlers are Pentecostal, it's just the only one I know anything about IRL.
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Post by Penn Guinn on May 2, 2022 1:06:20 GMT
The minister of the local Episcopal Church made his services so much like the Catholic Church's that parishioners said that they would rather go to St Patricks and become full fledged Catholics than deal with his only slightly watered down Catholicism . He may have been a rogue that went a little too far.
He played recorded hymns (bells) ALL day Sunday from Dawn to Dusk over the loud speakers and despite complaints to the police was some how never made to stop. We could hear it quite clearly from six city blocks away.
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Post by Hnefahogg on May 2, 2022 11:10:49 GMT
In the U.S. the liturgy used by Episcopalians and Lutherans are very similar to Catholic liturgy but there still remains major differences between the two and Catholicism. A Baptist once told me that he did not consider Lutherans to be Protestants but Catholic apostates. |
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Post by clusium on May 2, 2022 14:33:55 GMT
In the U.S. the liturgy used by Episcopalians and Lutherans are very similar to Catholic liturgy but there still remains major differences between the two and Catholicism. A Baptist once told me that he did not consider Lutherans to be Protestants but Catholic apostates. That's a pretty ironic POV, given that Lutheranism is the original Protestant church.
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Post by mikef6 on May 2, 2022 15:40:34 GMT
In the U.S. the liturgy used by Episcopalians and Lutherans are very similar to Catholic liturgy but there still remains major differences between the two and Catholicism. A Baptist once told me that he did not consider Lutherans to be Protestants but Catholic apostates.  Martin Luther, founder of the Lutherans, was the original Protestant. In my years as a Baptist (when I was young, stupid, naïve, and sentimental), the Baptists themselves were claiming not to be Protestant. The story was that the Baptist beliefs had lived through the millennials from the Apostolic era. Even though the centuries did not record their existence, they were always there. Baptist doctrine had existed for 1,500 years before Luther. At least, that was the tale they told. Again .
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 2, 2022 22:24:59 GMT
A Baptist once told me that he did not consider Lutherans to be Protestants but Catholic apostates. Martin Luther, founder of the Lutherans, was the original Protestant. In my years as a Baptist (when I was young, stupid, naïve, and sentimental), the Baptists themselves were claiming not to be Protestant. The story was that the Baptist beliefs had lived through the millennials from the Apostolic era. Even though the centuries did not record their existence, they were always there. Baptist doctrine had existed for 1,500 years before Luther. At least, that was the tale they told. Again . Huh... I was raised Southern Baptist but never heard that tale. I just think it is stupid for people to argue over whose invisible friend is the right invisible friend.
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Post by mikef6 on May 2, 2022 23:04:32 GMT
Martin Luther, founder of the Lutherans, was the original Protestant. In my years as a Baptist (when I was young, stupid, naïve, and sentimental), the Baptists themselves were claiming not to be Protestant. The story was that the Baptist beliefs had lived through the millennials from the Apostolic era. Even though the centuries did not record their existence, they were always there. Baptist doctrine had existed for 1,500 years before Luther. At least, that was the tale they told. Again . Huh... I was raised Southern Baptist but never heard that tale. I just think it is stupid for people to argue over whose invisible friend is the right invisible friend. This was the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). Maybe they were even more arrogant than other Baptist groups.
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Post by clusium on May 2, 2022 23:11:28 GMT
Martin Luther, founder of the Lutherans, was the original Protestant. In my years as a Baptist (when I was young, stupid, naïve, and sentimental), the Baptists themselves were claiming not to be Protestant. The story was that the Baptist beliefs had lived through the millennials from the Apostolic era. Even though the centuries did not record their existence, they were always there. Baptist doctrine had existed for 1,500 years before Luther. At least, that was the tale they told. Again . Huh... I was raised Southern Baptist but never heard that tale. I just think it is stupid for people to argue over whose invisible friend is the right invisible friend. People argue over far less important things, than just whose "invisible friend is the right invisible friend." Eg: people will get their panties tied right up in a knot over movies such as James Cameron's Titanic for example.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 2, 2022 23:50:15 GMT
Huh... I was raised Southern Baptist but never heard that tale. I just think it is stupid for people to argue over whose invisible friend is the right invisible friend. This was the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). Maybe they were even more arrogant than other Baptist groups. The church my parents belonged to was a member of the SBC, but I still never heard that tale. Interesting... I attended that church from 1958 ( I was 5 years old ) through 1971, so... 13 years. In college I became Lutheran; their service was more dignified and I liked the true tracker action pipe organ and that the organist played Bach. But eventually, I grew more skeptical, after becoming aware of some historical bad behavior of Christians in Europe. I flirted briefly with Buddhism, and still like the different worldview, but decided that all religion was based only on belief, and became an agnostic atheist - based on empirical evidence, it is not possible to know if there is a god, and if there is, the nature of that god. Some people still believe the earth is flat, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Comforting delusions just don't cut it anymore.
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Post by mikef6 on May 3, 2022 0:43:02 GMT
This was the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). Maybe they were even more arrogant than other Baptist groups. The church my parents belonged to was a member of the SBC, but I still never heard that tale. Interesting... I attended that church from 1958 ( I was 5 years old ) through 1971, so... 13 years. In college I became Lutheran; their service was more dignified and I liked the true tracker action pipe organ and that the organist played Bach. But eventually, I grew more skeptical, after becoming aware of some historical bad behavior of Christians in Europe. I flirted briefly with Buddhism, and still like the different worldview, but decided that all religion was based only on belief, and became an agnostic atheist - based on empirical evidence, it is not possible to know if there is a god, and if there is, the nature of that god. Some people still believe the earth is flat, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Comforting delusions just don't cut it anymore. I tried to find this theory on the Internet and did. There is a Wikipedia article called Baptist Seccessionism. They conclude that the idea has been discredited since the end of the 19th century but "Nonetheless, the view continued to be the prevailing view among Baptists of the Southern United States into the latter 20th century." I went to a Baptist university in Texas in the early 1960s and may well have heard it there.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 3, 2022 0:53:41 GMT
The church my parents belonged to was a member of the SBC, but I still never heard that tale. Interesting... I attended that church from 1958 ( I was 5 years old ) through 1971, so... 13 years. In college I became Lutheran; their service was more dignified and I liked the true tracker action pipe organ and that the organist played Bach. But eventually, I grew more skeptical, after becoming aware of some historical bad behavior of Christians in Europe. I flirted briefly with Buddhism, and still like the different worldview, but decided that all religion was based only on belief, and became an agnostic atheist - based on empirical evidence, it is not possible to know if there is a god, and if there is, the nature of that god. Some people still believe the earth is flat, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Comforting delusions just don't cut it anymore. I tried to find this theory on the Internet and did. There is a Wikipedia article called Baptist Seccessionism. They conclude that the idea has been discredited since the end of the 19th century but "Nonetheless, the view continued to be the prevailing view among Baptists of the Southern United States into the latter 20th century." I went to a Baptist university in Texas in the early 1960s and may well have heard it there. Would that have been Baylor University? Many of the kids my age were shipped off there, while my fiscally conservative father sent me to the state college in Kansas. He definitely regretted that decision! 
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Post by mikef6 on May 3, 2022 0:59:44 GMT
I tried to find this theory on the Internet and did. There is a Wikipedia article called Baptist Seccessionism. They conclude that the idea has been discredited since the end of the 19th century but "Nonetheless, the view continued to be the prevailing view among Baptists of the Southern United States into the latter 20th century." I went to a Baptist university in Texas in the early 1960s and may well have heard it there. Would that have been Baylor University? Many of the kids my age were shipped off there, while my fiscally conservative father sent me to the state college in Kansas. He definitely regretted that decision!  Baylor was the first and biggest. Mine was the second biggest, at the time anyway. I still think it is that way. It was Hardin-Simmons University in Abilene. When I went I had some crazy idea of being a preacher but that soon fell by the wayside because I spent most of my time either in the theatre department or going to movies.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 3, 2022 1:01:55 GMT
Would that have been Baylor University? Many of the kids my age were shipped off there, while my fiscally conservative father sent me to the state college in Kansas. He definitely regretted that decision! Baylor was the first and biggest. Mine was the second biggest, at the time anyway. I still think it is that way. It was Hardin-Simmons University in Abilene. When I went I had some crazy idea of being a preacher but that soon fell by the wayside because I spent most of my time either in the theatre department or going to movies. Good for you! 
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