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Post by timshelboy on Jun 4, 2022 21:01:27 GMT
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jun 4, 2022 21:09:21 GMT
Both she and husband Sam Elliott appeared in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969), although they had no scenes together and did not meet until 1978. Elliott had a bit part as a card player in the opening scene, while Ross portrayed Etta Place. They married in 1984 ... he is her 5th husband. 
another bit 'o trivia .... she is only 5' 3" ! |
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Post by teleadm on Jun 4, 2022 21:59:57 GMT
I've been playing with the idea of watching The Legacy 1978 one day even if I know it's not highly regarded, same goes for Games 1967.  This is a bit embarrassing, since it's a movie I like to watch from time to time, that I forgot Ross was in it in an actual vital part, The Final Countdown 1980  Think it was meant as a satire, not sure, with Sir Sean in Wrong is Right 1982. Think I have on old Video somewhere, or I might have sold it many years ago. Looking over her CV, didn't know she was in Donnie Darko 2001. I now know that I might have mixed her up with Susan Clark from time to time, for some strange reason. |
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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 4, 2022 22:06:56 GMT
"The Final Countdown" (1980)     
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Post by marshamae on Jun 5, 2022 1:39:03 GMT
I love Games!
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Post by petrolino on Jun 5, 2022 2:05:08 GMT
I always liked her. Think she gets a raw deal from the "razzi cognoscenti" at times, much like Ali McGraw, despite appearing in some bona fide film classics (or Burt Reynolds and Ryan O'Neal on the men's side). Sidney Lumet said these vultures hate two things : beauty and muscle ... till you take them away.
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Post by timshelboy on Jun 5, 2022 10:19:12 GMT
I've been playing with the idea of watching The Legacy 1978 one day even if I know it's not highly regarded, same goes for Games 1967. This is a bit embarrassing, since it's a movie I like to watch from time to time, that I forgot Ross was in it in an actual vital part, The Final Countdown 1980 Think it was meant as a satire, not sure, with Sir Sean in Wrong is Right 1982. Think I have on old Video somewhere, or I might have sold it many years ago. Looking over her CV, didn't know she was in Donnie Darko 2001. I now know that I might have mixed her up with Susan Clark from time to time, for some strange reason. GAMES Is well worth a peek - a poor man's DIABOLIQUE but still engrossing. THE LEGACY is pretty poor. From memory she gets bumped off early in WRONG IS RIGHT
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Post by timshelboy on Jun 5, 2022 10:45:44 GMT
I always liked her. Think she gets a raw deal from the "razzi cognoscenti" at times, much like Ali McGraw, despite appearing in some bona fide film classics (or Burt Reynolds and Ryan O'Neal on the men's side). Sidney Lumet said these vultures hate two things : beauty and muscle ... till you take them away. I'd agree - Ross was one of several actresses who made it big in the late 60s (MacGraw, Candice Bergen, Barbara Hershey) who seemed to represent the emerging New Hollywood, and who received a lot of hostility from the critics. I think they were much harsher on MacGraw (who was a bigger name - a huge 70s star almost forgotten now  ), than Ross, but Candice Bergen came in for the treatment too (and is now in her 6th decade of movie stardom and still busy). Hershey's back to back Best Actress awards at Cannes in the 80s silenced the naysayers. To be fair Ross didnt always choose well. She opted for THE SWARM, which may well be the nadir of the disaster movie cycle - a real career killer - but had turned down AIRPORT (Jacqueline Bisset got the part) and THE TOWERING INFERNO (Susan Blakely), both of which were global smash hits.
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Post by Isapop on Jun 5, 2022 15:43:21 GMT
I think her lead role in The Stepford Wives (1975) was the crossroads for her. But she wasn't memorable (she was outshone by Paula Prentiss), and her career just slowly declined after that.
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Post by marshamae on Jun 5, 2022 16:57:55 GMT
Re Stepford - Ross was caught in that weird 70’s moment when actresses wanted to portray feminist consciousness, writers and producers wanted to be hip and timely without giving up any control, and directors wanted actresses to be sexy - who cared what they said. Ross fell into the trap also inhabited by Diane Keaton in Reds, Jill Clayburgh in Unmarried Woman and Starting Over. None had well - pitched voices all three were kind of shrill. Apparently no one worked on vocal control and timbre. When they intended to show anger, They were shrill and annoying. In a sense this served the story, at least the story the male filmmakers wanted to make. It created just enough sympathy for the male , especially in Stepford Wives, that the ending had a tiny bit of sympathy from the audience, even the women.
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Post by timshelboy on Jun 5, 2022 17:16:19 GMT
Just had another visit to STEPFORD - must say I found Ross a most sympathetic heroine - but agree Prentiss*got the best lines and was great in the part. A real slow burning chiller - a Feminist nightmare. In the sense it was one of the few films she actually carried** it was not a great success at the time- from memory it took 4 years to get a proper release in the UK where Forbes was a big name at the time - and after the brickbats received for THE SWARM , THE BETSY and THE LEGACY her big screen career fizzled out by 1980 or so, although she remained busy on TV, including a few years in THE COLBYS.
*Wiki says Ross replaced Tuesday Weld on STEPFORD, but the version I have read is that Jean Seberg was first choice For Joanna (Ross)and Weld was whom Forbes wanted for the Prentiss role.
** Just checked - STEPFORD WIVES and THE LEGACY were her only big screen efforts that she got top billing in.
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Post by petrolino on Jun 5, 2022 17:26:51 GMT
Re Stepford - Ross was caught in that weird 70’s moment when actresses wanted to portray feminist consciousness, writers and producers wanted to be hip and timely without giving up any control, and directors wanted actresses to be sexy - who cared what they said. Ross fell into the trap also inhabited by Diane Keaton in Reds, Jill Clayburgh in Unmarried Woman and Starting Over. None had well - pitched voices all three were kind of shrill. Apparently no one worked on vocal control and timbre. When they intended to show anger, They were shrill and annoying. In a sense this served the story, at least the story the male filmmakers wanted to make. It created just enough sympathy for the male , especially in Stepford Wives, that the ending had a tiny bit of sympathy from the audience, even the women.
Clint Eastwood got sexy for directors, including himself.
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Post by jervistetch on Jun 5, 2022 17:55:09 GMT
Her third husband was Conrad Hall, three time Oscar winner for Best Cinematography. One of those wins was for BUTCH CASSIDY.  |
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Post by timshelboy on Jun 5, 2022 18:08:45 GMT
Her third husband was Conrad Hall, three time Oscar winner for Best Cinematography. One of those wins was for BUTCH CASSIDY.  He was clearly inspired by his subject!  
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Post by politicidal on Jun 5, 2022 18:32:17 GMT
Perfectly fine in what I’ve seen her in.
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Post by timshelboy on Jun 5, 2022 21:14:25 GMT
In the interests of "balance", having watched her best movie I decided to treat myself to the one widely recognised as her worst - THE SWARM - Christ it was lousy = this was the 2hr35min special edition. Ross got some of the worst of it - hilarious scenes of hallucinating Giant Queen Bee when relapsing from her sting. Brought to mind  NIGHT IOF THE LEPUS (timshelboy all time bottom ten entry). Great cast of oscar winners slumming it - Olivia DeHavilland offering an ageing Melanie Wilkes routine and Jose Ferrer getting 8th billing for less than 2 minutes screen time. Only the satisfyingly high cast mortality rate (9, possibly 10, of the 13 marquee names on the poster croak ) makes it a total write off. Also one of the few 70s disaster movies to explicitly off child cast members.  I prefer THE SWARM to FOOLS or GET TO KNOW YOUR RABBIT on ross' CV ( and I'd rank METEOR and WHEN TIME RAN OUT as worse disaster flics. |
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Post by Rufus-T on Jun 7, 2022 15:56:46 GMT
The first time I watched Donnie Darko, I did not realize that was her playing the shrink.  |
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Post by timshelboy on Jun 7, 2022 21:34:01 GMT
a few more from her CV I'd "recommend" that haven't yet come up SHENANDOAH - civil war Western as James Stewart's daughter in law (I think) in SHENANDOAH (her big screen debut) with Rosemary Forsyth  MISTER BUDDWING - oddball existential noir has James Garner as amnesiac and Katharine Ross the first of 3 women who may hold the clue to his identity (Suzanne Pleshette and Jean Simmons were the others - plus Angela Lansbury heading the support cast. GAMES - OK well it HAS come up... but I'll second MarshaMae's ringing endorsement. Neat thriller. in GAMES 1967 with James Caan & Simone Signoret. Groovy or what?  THEY ONLY KILL THEIR MASTERS- Garner again investigating a murder. Ross his squeeze. novelty value of old MGM stars including June Allyson as a lesbian murderess  MURDER BY NATURAL CAUSES - another good thriller - a TV effort from 1979 as a duplicitous wife  She got an oscar nom (elaine), two Golden Globes (Elaine and VOYAGE OF THE DAMNED as a south of the border upper class hooker and a BAFTA (Jointly for BUTCH and WILLIE BOY) |
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Post by stryker on Jun 8, 2022 5:21:47 GMT
She was rather lovely as the lonely widow woman Evie Teal in the classic TV western CONAGHER (1991). Ross and her rugged husband sure have chemistry.
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Post by timshelboy on Jun 8, 2022 18:00:41 GMT
I now know that I might have mixed her up with Susan Clark from time to time, for some strange reason. They both appeared in TELL THEM WILLIE BOY WAS HERE
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), than Ross, but Candice Bergen came in for the treatment too (and is now in her 6th decade of movie stardom and still busy). Hershey's back to back Best Actress awards at Cannes in the 80s silenced the naysayers.
