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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jun 30, 2022 13:02:22 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 30, 2022 13:20:26 GMT
These games we all play. Such a brilliant statement to make on a matter you know won't go before a judge. I also appreciate the imaginary world where nobody has ever lied under oath.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jun 30, 2022 16:16:11 GMT
These games we all play. Such a brilliant statement to make on a matter you know won't go before a judge. I also appreciate the imaginary world where nobody has ever lied under oath. I had something similar with a real estate agent once.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 30, 2022 20:57:52 GMT
The MLBPA is telling the players not to have any dealing with this guy.
My brother, a lawyer but not an agent, says that if this is true, the agent is in serious shit. He thinks an agent not telling his client of an offer is the same as a lawyer not telling his client of a potential settlement of a civil suit or a possible plea bargain in a criminal case. An agent is ethically and legally bound to provide the absolute best services to their client.
Sounds like something Eli Gold would do in Entourage
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 30, 2022 21:09:44 GMT
The MLBPA is telling the players not to have any dealing with this guy.
My brother, a lawyer but not an agent, says that if this is true, the agent is in serious shit. He thinks an agent not telling his client of an offer is the same as a lawyer not telling his client of a potential settlement of a civil suit or a possible plea bargain in a criminal case. An agent is ethically and legally bound to provide the absolute best services to their client.
Sounds like something Eli Gold would do in Entourage
This is 100% true. Transactional lawyers are duty-bound to relay this type of information to their clients, even a shitty offer from the Reds.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 30, 2022 21:14:09 GMT
The MLBPA is telling the players not to have any dealing with this guy.
My brother, a lawyer but not an agent, says that if this is true, the agent is in serious shit. He thinks an agent not telling his client of an offer is the same as a lawyer not telling his client of a potential settlement of a civil suit or a possible plea bargain in a criminal case. An agent is ethically and legally bound to provide the absolute best services to their client.
Sounds like something Eli Gold would do in Entourage
This is 100% true. Transactional lawyers are duty-bound to relay this type of information to their clients, even a shitty offer from the Reds. My brother was 95% sure. If he didn't inform a client of a plea offer (he's a criminal lawyer) he said he would be disbarred in a week. Paul Newman did that in The Verdict and he always grumbles about that being such a plot hole. He told me once that the most accurate lawyer film, from a legal an ethical point is My Cousin Vinny
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 30, 2022 21:28:53 GMT
This is 100% true. Transactional lawyers are duty-bound to relay this type of information to their clients, even a shitty offer from the Reds. My brother was 95% sure. If he didn't inform a client of a plea offer (he's a criminal lawyer) he said he would be disbarred in a week. Paul Newman did that in The Verdict and he always grumbles about that being such a plot hole. He told me once that the most accurate lawyer film, from a legal an ethical point is My Cousin Vinny
This is also 100% true, it's something I've talked about on here as well. Not just ethics, but actual trial procedure is fairly accurate here. Jury selection, voir dire of witnesses, valid objections, cross examinations, introduction of evidence, there aren't many films as accurate as this one. Compare it something like 12 Angry Men which features jurors conducting their own investigation, considering evidence that was not introduced at trial, and jurors openly discussing their own prejudices. All 3 of these things would result in a mistrial.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 30, 2022 21:40:55 GMT
My brother was 95% sure. If he didn't inform a client of a plea offer (he's a criminal lawyer) he said he would be disbarred in a week. Paul Newman did that in The Verdict and he always grumbles about that being such a plot hole. He told me once that the most accurate lawyer film, from a legal an ethical point is My Cousin Vinny
This is also 100% true, it's something I've talked about on here as well. Not just ethics, but actual trial procedure is fairly accurate here. Jury selection, voir dire of witnesses, valid objections, cross examinations, introduction of evidence, there aren't many films as accurate as this one. Compare it something like 12 Angry Men which features jurors conducting their own investigation, considering evidence that was not introduced at trial, and jurors openly discussing their own prejudices. All 3 of these things would result in a mistrial. He said that the writer for My Cousin Vinny really did his homework. He heard of law schools showing MCV to the "Utes" in class as an example of how tp do things right.
The one thing he says is totally wrong and is in any courtroom movie is the lawyer making his closing argument right in front of the jury. He says that a lawyer is never to get that close to a jury. Could be a New York thing, I would imagine all states have different codes for that stuff.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 30, 2022 21:51:33 GMT
This is also 100% true, it's something I've talked about on here as well. Not just ethics, but actual trial procedure is fairly accurate here. Jury selection, voir dire of witnesses, valid objections, cross examinations, introduction of evidence, there aren't many films as accurate as this one. Compare it something like 12 Angry Men which features jurors conducting their own investigation, considering evidence that was not introduced at trial, and jurors openly discussing their own prejudices. All 3 of these things would result in a mistrial. He said that the writer for My Cousin Vinny really did his homework. He heard of law schools showing MCV to the "Utes" in class as an example of how tp do things right.
The one thing he says is totally wrong and is in any courtroom movie is the lawyer making his closing argument right in front of the jury. He says that a lawyer is never to get that close to a jury. Could be a New York thing, I would imagine all states have different codes for that stuff.
Yeah, that's something every movie/show gets wrong - where the lawyers stand while on trial. Even MCV isn't perfect - the judge overruling Vinny's objection over the introduction of last-minute evidence would never happen, Vinny going on an absolute role while crossing the witnesses (any good lawyer would object simply to interrupt the lawyer's rhythm), that kind of stuff. Glad to see your brother is also a fake lawyer!
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 30, 2022 22:00:35 GMT
He said that the writer for My Cousin Vinny really did his homework. He heard of law schools showing MCV to the "Utes" in class as an example of how tp do things right.
The one thing he says is totally wrong and is in any courtroom movie is the lawyer making his closing argument right in front of the jury. He says that a lawyer is never to get that close to a jury. Could be a New York thing, I would imagine all states have different codes for that stuff.
Yeah, that's something every movie/show gets wrong - where the lawyers stand while on trial. Even MCV isn't perfect - the judge overruling Vinny's objection over the introduction of last-minute evidence would never happen, Vinny going on an absolute role while crossing the witnesses (any good lawyer would object simply to interrupt the lawyer's rhythm), that kind of stuff. Glad to see your brother is also a fake lawyer! He knows that they are just movies. He always says that you can never make a trial movie 100% accurate because everyone would fall asleep. Trials are as dull as dishwater.
You ought to hear him rant about Perry Mason!
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Post by Surly on Jun 30, 2022 23:02:37 GMT
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